Saluki Men / Bringing On Pups / Summer Hares

[Banter 1,751]

be hard to make a hare dog starting from scratch in ireland. you need an old dog to show them the ropes

[New speedie 2 91]

Imo.pup should be out from about 12 weeks old summer winter whenever doing ditchs gates wire ect .leave them in the house is 1 sure way to rare a jacker.

I agree with yea 100% about gates ditches ect what im saying is the hares are never given a chance by some people Slipping in pups some of these pups I seen slipped in were older than the dog that was running.This shite about getting their mouth around something in summer is just that shite I.M.H.O

[desertbred 5,490]

 

There is a vast amount of talk about morals and conscience in relation to wildlife what about the morals and consciences of the drum bangers over things like child exploitation , domestic violence, corruption in society ethically morally , morality has limited interpretation for some people The morally rightious in my experience are the very ones who commit all kinds of morally corrupt practices like saville obe etc but portray them selves as something else. I have said this year I intend to run one dog on as it happens I havent but should I decide that I want to it is my decision no one elses to many people are so keen to take a morally high standpoint they jump before all the facts or circumstances are before them certainly I am not going to justify myself to others I can live with my conscience

Imo if you were morally righteous you would not commit acts of paedophilia etc One naturally contradicts the other.

 

Domestic violence, child exploitation corruption in society are subjects that have no relevance to this topic ,which is about running hares during the summer months. The place to debate them is in the general topic section .

 

What facts or circumstances would one need to form an opinion on the subject of running hares in the summer ? Either you do ,or you don't, and people will either agree with you if you do , or they won't, it's a simple yes or no.

 

You say its your decision and that's the line I took on it , if you are comfortable doing it ,it's your call.

 

But you justified it in your post by saying others did it ,so you will.

 

You certainly don't have to justify yourself to anyone here.

It's your conscience, not mine or anyone else's

 

Do you have a problem with people taking what you term " a high moral standpoint?"

 

I said in my post that If I didnt run my land others would not I was doing it because they were. As for the rest you brought up morals and conscience so morality in society encompasses all aspects not selective fragments

[New speedie 2 91]

be hard to make a hare dog starting from scratch in ireland. you need an old dog to show them the ropes

Did yea ever try it banter or do yea know anybody that did

[Banter 1,751]

 

be hard to make a hare dog starting from scratch in ireland. you need an old dog to show them the ropes

Did yea ever try it banter or do yea know anybody that did

 

no speedie an i dont intend to start lifes to short my pup will be going double up to i think hes good enough to go on his own

[brendy mc l 694]

speedie even the most seasoned dogs can loose a hare easy over here imo I think they need doubled up to learn them about double ditching following through bogs ill pair mine up but ill also give them ago by them selves to c how they coming on if by a certent age they cant hold the hare ditch well then make your own mined up keep it or get rid dogs ill give mine to there second season unless they f**k up lol

[inan 841]

 

 

There is a vast amount of talk about morals and conscience in relation to wildlife what about the morals and consciences of the drum bangers over things like child exploitation , domestic violence, corruption in society ethically morally , morality has limited interpretation for some people The morally rightious in my experience are the very ones who commit all kinds of morally corrupt practices like saville obe etc but portray them selves as something else. I have said this year I intend to run one dog on as it happens I havent but should I decide that I want to it is my decision no one elses to many people are so keen to take a morally high standpoint they jump before all the facts or circumstances are before them certainly I am not going to justify myself to others I can live with my conscience

Imo if you were morally righteous you would not commit acts of paedophilia etc One naturally contradicts the other.

 

Domestic violence, child exploitation corruption in society are subjects that have no relevance to this topic ,which is about running hares during the summer months. The place to debate them is in the general topic section .

 

What facts or circumstances would one need to form an opinion on the subject of running hares in the summer ? Either you do ,or you don't, and people will either agree with you if you do , or they won't, it's a simple yes or no.

 

You say its your decision and that's the line I took on it , if you are comfortable doing it ,it's your call.

 

But you justified it in your post by saying others did it ,so you will.

 

You certainly don't have to justify yourself to anyone here.

It's your conscience, not mine or anyone else's

 

Do you have a problem with people taking what you term " a high moral standpoint?"

 

I said in my post that If I didnt run my land others would not I was doing it because they were. As for the rest you brought up morals and conscience so morality in society encompasses all aspects not selective fragments

 

I mentioned morals, and conscience as they apply to one's own ehtical viewpoint regarding hunting hares during the summer.

 

The other subjects you brought up, have absolutely no connection with hunting whatsoever,and are therefore ,as I said, irrelevant to the argument.

 

Unless you think child abuse,child exploitation ,and domestic violence have anything in common with hunting, including them in your post is neither germane , nor relevant to the thread.

[New speedie 2 91]

 

 

be hard to make a hare dog starting from scratch in ireland. you need an old dog to show them the ropes

Did yea ever try it banter or do yea know anybody that did

 

no speedie an i dont intend to start lifes to short my pup will be going double up to i think hes good enough to go on his own

 

I have seen it done with lots of dogs banter and before the slagging starts not necessarily mine .Some of them turned out very good dogs legends even

[brendy mc l 694]

wat u think tk would u double up with a young dog starting of or enter it by its self

[New speedie 2 91]

speedie even the most seasoned dogs can loose a hare easy over here imo I think they need doubled up to learn them about double ditching following through bogs ill pair mine up but ill also give them ago by them selves to c how they coming on if by a certent age they cant hold the hare ditch well then make your own mined up keep it or get rid dogs ill give mine to there second season unless they f**k up lol

I.M.H.O Brendy the problem is yea never hear anyone say anymore that was a real good run and that hare deserved to get away .All yea ever hear is we killed 3 we killed 4 what about giving the hare a fair start and one dog after him .I hunted with a lot of the said to be top men and some of them would make yea laugh

[banner man 587]

i compleatly agree that summer hunting is out of the question they get plenty of chances from september onwards, the hares need and deserve a chance to breed thats my view

[nans pat 2,575]

 

Imo.pup should be out from about 12 weeks old summer winter whenever doing ditchs gates wire ect .leave them in the house is 1 sure way to rare a jacker.

 

I agree with yea 100% about gates ditches ect what im saying is the hares are never given a chance by some people Slipping in pups some of these pups I seen slipped in were older than the dog that was running.This shite about getting their mouth around something in summer is just that shite I.M.H.O

aye yer right there seen some 3 and 4 year old pups myself.lol.

[brendy mc l 694]

put it this way speedie for a laugh if u enter a young dog by its self its gona get more blanks than catches so if every time u seen me and chased me and never caught me u be soon saying to your self f**k u brendy lol

[Banter 1,751]

i think youl go a long way to find a man who hasnt run doubled up or went out for a run on a nice summer evening or an early morning job an ran a hare out of its bed before it got a chance to wipe the blears out of its eyes

[New speedie 2 91]

put it this way speedie for a laugh if u enter a young dog by its self its gona get more blanks than catches so if every time u seen me and chased me and never caught me u be soon saying to your self f**k u brendy lol

Put it this way for a laugh if you enter a young dog and it gets more blanks than catches but yea see it trying harder and you have it in good shape when it dose start to catch more maybe yea might have a real good one