koda 83 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 at what age would you introduce to rabbits Quote Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 at what age would you introduce to rabbits sooner than the age youd be introduced to a pair of boots and 2 jackets Quote Link to post
koda 83 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 just thinking about them ill pm you Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I've got a 22" beddy/whippet here, if I'm honest I wouldn't have one again.. If I went down the beddy route again I'd want something like a beddy/whippet X greyhound.. why not? ive got a relatively small beddy whippet bitch 17tts, she hunts like a beddy but is built like a whippet, and she has caught loads of bolted rabbits on long courses upt dales, on some terrible ground and has never even knocked up a toe. i think her light weight means she gets no injuries. she is a great fun dog, the amount of times me and my pals have gone "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh" when she has grabbed hold of a bunny after a long course on limestone she is tough as old boots, and as sommeone pointed out to me, would a full whippet have the coat or skin to manage all day in the howling gales or sat on the quad for ages at 70mph winds? Yep, i've seen the little fecker do it Wouldn't be my first choice up there though ., . . . . or any dog under about 24 tts. Although I do agree your wee dog is like a tough little spider monkey. And I do like her a lot As for rabbit sizes and hares . . . . in answer to some of the other points. If a decent sized whippet struggles with a rabbit . . . . it's just a shit dog And I would imagine a whippet would get up on and kill a hare easier than a beddy/whip??? Being faster. Did there not used to be whippet coursing clubs? yep i didnt think about yours. although yours is more than just a whippet, hes just more "tougher" in pictures and in the flesh. why wouldnt it be your first choice? we went out with a beddywhip/grey 25tts and half the places we went he couldnt let it off the lead due to the rocks etc that would of snapped his legs. my little one can run in a lot more places up here, thus giving me more sport, no point in getting a dog i cant run. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I've got a 22" beddy/whippet here, if I'm honest I wouldn't have one again.. If I went down the beddy route again I'd want something like a beddy/whippet X greyhound.. why not? ive got a relatively small beddy whippet bitch 17tts, she hunts like a beddy but is built like a whippet, and she has caught loads of bolted rabbits on long courses upt dales, on some terrible ground and has never even knocked up a toe. i think her light weight means she gets no injuries. she is a great fun dog, the amount of times me and my pals have gone "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh" when she has grabbed hold of a bunny after a long course on limestone she is tough as old boots, and as sommeone pointed out to me, would a full whippet have the coat or skin to manage all day in the howling gales or sat on the quad for ages at 70mph winds? Yep, i've seen the little fecker do it Wouldn't be my first choice up there though ., . . . . or any dog under about 24 tts. Although I do agree your wee dog is like a tough little spider monkey. And I do like her a lot As for rabbit sizes and hares . . . . in answer to some of the other points. If a decent sized whippet struggles with a rabbit . . . . it's just a shit dog And I would imagine a whippet would get up on and kill a hare easier than a beddy/whip??? Being faster. Did there not used to be whippet coursing clubs? yep i didnt think about yours. although yours is more than just a whippet, hes just more "tougher" in pictures and in the flesh. why wouldnt it be your first choice? we went out with a beddywhip/grey 25tts and half the places we went he couldnt let it off the lead due to the rocks etc that would of snapped his legs. my little one can run in a lot more places up here, thus giving me more sport, no point in getting a dog i cant run. Yer I know what you are saying, Finn is tougher than most whippets you see. But I think if we both ran our dogs over a season up there, mine would break way before yours! Also, I thought about what I wrote. . . . . the logic was, that with those reed beds etc, I found that the taller dogs were at a bit of an advantage, both in terms of moving through it and also keeping the quarry in their sight. You make a good point however, about the rocks etc. I found something like Johns 'Gem' probably what I would pick, something with a bit of leg, but also tough and more importantly smart. In all honestly, a dog of her stamp (maybe a 1/2 x?) and one like your Eve, would make a lethal team!!! But like I said at the time, I like your little spider monkey a lot, bags of heart, tough as old boots and agile as a cat. Hard to beat. I would just feel that working the rough reed beds, she may be at a disadvantage due to her height? I may well be wrong. Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've got a 22" beddy/whippet here, if I'm honest I wouldn't have one again.. If I went down the beddy route again I'd want something like a beddy/whippet X greyhound.. why not? ive got a relatively small beddy whippet bitch 17tts, she hunts like a beddy but is built like a whippet, and she has caught loads of bolted rabbits on long courses upt dales, on some terrible ground and has never even knocked up a toe. i think her light weight means she gets no injuries. she is a great fun dog, the amount of times me and my pals have gone "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh" when she has grabbed hold of a bunny after a long course on limestone she is tough as old boots, and as sommeone pointed out to me, would a full whippet have the coat or skin to manage all day in the howling gales or sat on the quad for ages at 70mph winds? Yep, i've seen the little fecker do it Wouldn't be my first choice up there though ., . . . . or any dog under about 24 tts. Although I do agree your wee dog is like a tough little spider monkey. And I do like her a lot As for rabbit sizes and hares . . . . in answer to some of the other points. If a decent sized whippet struggles with a rabbit . . . . it's just a shit dog And I would imagine a whippet would get up on and kill a hare easier than a beddy/whip??? Being faster. Did there not used to be whippet coursing clubs? yep i didnt think about yours. although yours is more than just a whippet, hes just more "tougher" in pictures and in the flesh. why wouldnt it be your first choice? we went out with a beddywhip/grey 25tts and half the places we went he couldnt let it off the lead due to the rocks etc that would of snapped his legs. my little one can run in a lot more places up here, thus giving me more sport, no point in getting a dog i cant run. Yer I know what you are saying, Finn is tougher than most whippets you see. But I think if we both ran our dogs over a season up there, mine would break way before yours! Also, I thought about what I wrote. . . . . the logic was, that with those reed beds etc, I found that the taller dogs were at a bit of an advantage, both in terms of moving through it and also keeping the quarry in their sight. You make a good point however, about the rocks etc. I found something like Johns 'Gem' probably what I would pick, something with a bit of leg, but also tough and more importantly smart. In all honestly, a dog of her stamp (maybe a 1/2 x?) and one like your Eve, would make a lethal team!!! But like I said at the time, I like your little spider monkey a lot, bags of heart, tough as old boots and agile as a cat. Hard to beat. I would just feel that working the rough reed beds, she may be at a disadvantage due to her height? I may well be wrong. yes your probably right, if anything i would want her to be taller, but only by a 3-4 inches, i think anything else i wouldnt need. them reed beds were first and last shes been in really, not many of them around, only on that bit. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I may just have been lucky, but over the years ive worked all three, the first cross, the three quarter and a pedigree whippet, and all three have been decent rabbiting dogs, that would put bunnies in the bag. first cross Whippet x Bedlington. Edited May 12, 2013 by Country Joe Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Whippet x whippet x Bedlington. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Pedigree Whippet. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 new kid on block. Whippet x Bedlington x Whippet. 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've got a 22" beddy/whippet here, if I'm honest I wouldn't have one again.. If I went down the beddy route again I'd want something like a beddy/whippet X greyhound.. why not? ive got a relatively small beddy whippet bitch 17tts, she hunts like a beddy but is built like a whippet, and she has caught loads of bolted rabbits on long courses upt dales, on some terrible ground and has never even knocked up a toe. i think her light weight means she gets no injuries. she is a great fun dog, the amount of times me and my pals have gone "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh" when she has grabbed hold of a bunny after a long course on limestone she is tough as old boots, and as sommeone pointed out to me, would a full whippet have the coat or skin to manage all day in the howling gales or sat on the quad for ages at 70mph winds? Yep, i've seen the little fecker do it Wouldn't be my first choice up there though ., . . . . or any dog under about 24 tts. Although I do agree your wee dog is like a tough little spider monkey. And I do like her a lot As for rabbit sizes and hares . . . . in answer to some of the other points. If a decent sized whippet struggles with a rabbit . . . . it's just a shit dog And I would imagine a whippet would get up on and kill a hare easier than a beddy/whip??? Being faster. Did there not used to be whippet coursing clubs? yep i didnt think about yours. although yours is more than just a whippet, hes just more "tougher" in pictures and in the flesh. why wouldnt it be your first choice? we went out with a beddywhip/grey 25tts and half the places we went he couldnt let it off the lead due to the rocks etc that would of snapped his legs. my little one can run in a lot more places up here, thus giving me more sport, no point in getting a dog i cant run. Yer I know what you are saying, Finn is tougher than most whippets you see. But I think if we both ran our dogs over a season up there, mine would break way before yours! Also, I thought about what I wrote. . . . . the logic was, that with those reed beds etc, I found that the taller dogs were at a bit of an advantage, both in terms of moving through it and also keeping the quarry in their sight. You make a good point however, about the rocks etc. I found something like Johns 'Gem' probably what I would pick, something with a bit of leg, but also tough and more importantly smart. In all honestly, a dog of her stamp (maybe a 1/2 x?) and one like your Eve, would make a lethal team!!! But like I said at the time, I like your little spider monkey a lot, bags of heart, tough as old boots and agile as a cat. Hard to beat. I would just feel that working the rough reed beds, she may be at a disadvantage due to her height? I may well be wrong. yes your probably right, if anything i would want her to be taller, but only by a 3-4 inches, i think anything else i wouldnt need. them reed beds were first and last shes been in really, not many of them around, only on that bit. That's a very fair point, i suppose i have seen a fair bit of the reeds, so have formed my opinion from there. But looking at 'the graveyard' opposite, i probably wouldnt chose a dog much bigger than 22/23 tts, to try to cut down the risk of the bad tumbles. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've got a 22" beddy/whippet here, if I'm honest I wouldn't have one again.. If I went down the beddy route again I'd want something like a beddy/whippet X greyhound.. why not? ive got a relatively small beddy whippet bitch 17tts, she hunts like a beddy but is built like a whippet, and she has caught loads of bolted rabbits on long courses upt dales, on some terrible ground and has never even knocked up a toe. i think her light weight means she gets no injuries. she is a great fun dog, the amount of times me and my pals have gone "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh" when she has grabbed hold of a bunny after a long course on limestone she is tough as old boots, and as sommeone pointed out to me, would a full whippet have the coat or skin to manage all day in the howling gales or sat on the quad for ages at 70mph winds? He don't suit my purposes mate, it's as simple as that. He's got buckets of drive but he's thick as shit and not as quite as fast as I'd like for lamping. I think I could live with him if he was a bit faster or a bit cleverer. They say 'two out of three ain't bad', but one out of three is piss poor! His sire is a similar dog but he seemed a bit smarter running the beam whenever I saw him work which made up for his lack of top end speed. I reckon if he had greyhound in his makeup the extra speed would go some way to make up for what he was lacking. If I was just after a ferreting/mooching dog he would probably be adequate.. if the dogs not clever thats down to poor entering mate time put in to the dog and they learn to run cunning if they not got the speed blame the man not the dog the more time in the field the better the dog and has to be done while young they are learning all the time jmo atbI had him out all the time as a youngster mate, if a dog is thick, it's thick just like some people! I can sit in the garden and chuck a ball for hours with him but I can never get him to watch the ball, as soon as my arm goes back he's off down the garden whether the ball's left my hand or not. No matter how often I do it, day after day, he can't get it into his head that he has to keep his eye on the ball. I thought it was just him being over eager as a young dog but he's 4 now and is showing no signs of changing. He's the same in the field on the lamp, unless a rabbit starts running under his nose he wont see it. You can't train a dog to be more intelligent or to have more speed if it ain't there. Not every dog will make a good worker and not every dog will be suitable for the type of work or land that the owner needs a dog for. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 fair play to you malt for keeping the dog Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 fair play to you malt for keeping the dog He's really good natured and good with my kids mate, protective even. He'd let them climb all over him and hug him, seems to enjoy it even. Not that I don't teach my kids how to behave around dogs, even our own. I won't get rid of a dog once it's been living around the family so I just had his nuts off to stop him doing my nut in when my little JRT bitch comes into season, and he'll spend the rest of his life here as a pet if nothing else.. Quote Link to post
Ribblevalley85 2 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 new kid on block. Whippet x Bedlington x Whippet. Some stunning dogs there pal, I no tough decision but which if you can was best all rounder??? Quote Link to post
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