Vixen And Cub Dead

[BIGLURKS 874]

Was called out this morning too sort out a problem vixen well we knew what hole she would be having cubs it holds cubs every year well on arrival we set about checking a few other earths just incase after 2 blanks we came too a hole we knew she would be in well after tethering up the dogs we let myne off ran too the first hole would not enter and this was puzzling enuf ran too the next hole would not enter moved up too the bolt hole enters not far in arms length and dog stoped done nothing stayed he's ground no barking nothing me and my friend were beyond puzzled cos this dog usally works fine always baying and mixing he eventually came out after some calling and tetherd him back up and collard the brother too my dog that I gifted my friend as soon as he is off does the exact same thing would not enter 2 holes went Down the 3 gets too the same spot and starts pulling back we can see him pulling some thing back too the entrance a small cub been dead we would say not long thing is we heard no noises no mixing after we get rid of the cub re enter the same dog for it too do the same thing stoped same place no barking no mixing nothing just sitting dog could not be called out so we began digging threw too the tube just infront too pull a vixen out perfect condition no marks perfect weight no mange proper country fox perfect coat been dead for about 2 days ruff guess cheaked it over no shot marks nothing was wedged in between 2 roots well dogs dint want any thing too do with it no ragging nothing just smelt it moved back too the hole and ran the rest of the set only too come back out any one ever come across this before it has me and my friend stumped

[dymented 2,220]

might have been poisoned ?

[timmy k 591]

Had a similar one once but with my lurcher, she wedge herself down the hole and pulled out a vixen, perfect condition no marks and no where near any livestock, so I don't think it was poisoned ( at least not intentionally ). Maybe it had a heart attack from fast food ha ha, maybe like people it just died, it happens.

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

Poison?

[the_stig 6,614]

might have been poisoned ?

 

 

Poison?

my thoughts aswell...

[gouldy257 79]

cant see if it was just nature,, how the cub would have died and am sure even with no food for 2days it would have still being living quite faintly so am also baffled and the same conclusion as others and its poison

[BIGLURKS 874]

See the cub was not even in that bad of condition

[whippet 99 2,613]

it was probably poison .......there so cunning this time of the year and very eager to feed there siblings and kill / scavenge what they can at someones exspense.......

so it makes people desperate as they cant afford to loose poultry or livestock and it makes them do exstream things such as poison.....

i went seen a farmer the other day ,.......kept loosing chickens and they knew it wasnt fox etc.........they thought mink,...stoat etc.. (because of the entry to get in there was no obvious signs of anything bigger)

and they could never catch it in the act to shoot it .........well the culprit was found in there kitchen .......it was an albino ferret ..........(possibly one of mine, but obviously stated it wasnt lol)........it was tame as come be .......having looked at it ,...it is pregnant and it will be interesting to see what has been put over it ,.........my guesss is a wild polecat....time will tell

anyway she said you were lucky we were going to poison what ever it was ,............as they could never catch it in the act ......so it just goes to show people take desperate measures when it comes down to there livelyhood/pocket......

[BIGLURKS 874]

The only thing in my mind that says its not poison is the location nearest home is about 3 miles away and can't think of any one that would put poison Down for any reason the lad that has the land is a good friend and has never put poision down always gave us a ring if he had anything going missing or problems with rats

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

Cut the vixens carcass open and examine the internal organs instead of guesswork, you dont need to be a vet to do a very basic autopsy

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

having cubs could have weakened the heart so possibly a heart attack, but chances are its poison as the dog fox also helps feeding the vixen it will travel up to 5 miles maybe more in search of food, but wouldn't die as it didn't eat the food as it could have been brought back for the vixen n cubs

[the_stig 6,614]

i`ve known some landowners leave baited food out..

[The one 8,503]

Aye its no been that bad a spring so poison does sound a real threat ,and a vixen with cubs would cover a good distance to get food

[stripes 401]

If its poison and it sounds like it is, there will be blisters in the foxes mouth from burning of the poison,, know this from going to the vets with a mates dog that was poisoned.

[The one 8,503]

There was a small holder here baited some rats and just threw them on his midden killed a few magpies and a fox before he clicked what was happening and then buried the rest . might be a genuine mistake