riohog 5,708 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? why do athletes go for high altitude training to compete at much lower levels the low air pressure at high altitude alows you to assimilate oxygen much easier so when you are at lower altitude it circulates into the blood moch quicker enabling slower on srt of fatique you can adapt as would dogs but for any long term benefits you would be talking years and generations as pointed out sherpas living at higher altitudes can function much easier in that enviroment than western mountaineers,We are talking of quite high altitudes. My youngestDaughter was born at a hiegt of 3,200 feet above sea level she wins every distance race in her school running distances from 400 up to 3,000 metres her powers of recovery are much better than the other students the school actually tested her running 2 800 mts legs in a relay consecutively against a normal relay team she beat them then when her pulse rate and blood pressure was checked she recovered much faster than the others this was attributed to the altitude she was born at. d/b you know were the bitch i have mother farther and good knows how many generations came from they come from BOKAN azerbijan state iran foot hills of the zagros ,, her powers of recovery are twice that of the kizzy bred lad its in the breeding Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What I found interesting was the diversity between two dogs of the same breed ... You had one that was mouthing the hare and didn't want to grab hold of it then another that hung on tight to a fox whilst an eagle hit it at full force ... Just shows that all breeds have their hard and soft types ............ The one that was mouthing the hare was a pup surely and if you were bossing your prey and you saw something else like and eagle wanting in on the act you'd maybe crunch it that bit harder...seen that many times (pre ban with two dogs on a fox) not sure it shows breed diversity at all just a young green pup and an older dog concerned it was going to have its quarry knicked.... After watching it again I could see it was a pup .... Still I think it takes some bottle to hang on to your quarry when a huge eagle is swooping down towards you ......... 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? Baseline bred lurchers perhaps but greyhounds saturated hounds no chance. The ground conditions alone would destroy their feet, wrists and shoulders on no time trust me on that one. . Excuse me for not being clear, I mean our uk coursing dogs in particular the ones ran on the fens. arent the fens below sea level? Were going around in circles, my point was and still is they have nothing to add to our coursing dogs that is not already available in the gene pool. Your not gona convince me and Iam not gona convince you so lets agree to disagree just out of curiosity what dogs do you run Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? Baseline bred lurchers perhaps but greyhounds saturated hounds no chance. The ground conditions alone would destroy their feet, wrists and shoulders on no time trust me on that one. . Excuse me for not being clear, I mean our uk coursing dogs in particular the ones ran on the fens. arent the fens below sea level? Were going around in circles, my point was and still is they have nothing to add to our coursing dogs that is not already available in the gene pool. Your not gona convince me and Iam not gona convince you so lets agree to disagree just out of curiosity what dogs do you run Lurchers Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? Baseline bred lurchers perhaps but greyhounds saturated hounds no chance. The ground conditions alone would destroy their feet, wrists and shoulders on no time trust me on that one. . Excuse me for not being clear, I mean our uk coursing dogs in particular the ones ran on the fens. arent the fens below sea level? Were going around in circles, my point was and still is they have nothing to add to our coursing dogs that is not already available in the gene pool. Your not gona convince me and Iam not gona convince you so lets agree to disagree just out of curiosity what dogs do you run Lurchers what x Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? Baseline bred lurchers perhaps but greyhounds saturated hounds no chance. The ground conditions alone would destroy their feet, wrists and shoulders on no time trust me on that one. . Excuse me for not being clear, I mean our uk coursing dogs in particular the ones ran on the fens. arent the fens below sea level? Were going around in circles, my point was and still is they have nothing to add to our coursing dogs that is not already available in the gene pool. Your not gona convince me and Iam not gona convince you so lets agree to disagree just out of curiosity what dogs do you run Lurchers what x Why? Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 just curious if they have saluki in or is it a secret Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) just curious if they have saluki in or is it a secret The ones at present dont if thats any help horses for courses and all that but there not for me TBH ETA. Iam always suspicious of curious strangers asking about my dogs on the internet. Edited May 5, 2013 by C Hall Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,574 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 So by that logic i could, with a little bit of adapting, be as good at high altitudes as a sherpa ? Only if your surname is Tensig Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,574 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I dont agree that they will be better at running at high altitudes there used to it yes, people can adapt and condition themselfs to physical demands at high altitudes why would running dogs be any different? Baseline bred lurchers perhaps but greyhounds saturated hounds no chance. The ground conditions alone would destroy their feet, wrists and shoulders on no time trust me on that one. . Excuse me for not being clear, I mean our uk coursing dogs in particular the ones ran on the fens. arent the fens below sea level? thats why you must allways take a catty with you To hell with the catty I'd be taking a coracle incase of flash floods Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What I found interesting was the diversity between two dogs of the same breed ... You had one that was mouthing the hare and didn't want to grab hold of it then another that hung on tight to a fox whilst an eagle hit it at full force ... Just shows that all breeds have their hard and soft types ............ The one that was mouthing the hare was a pup surely and if you were bossing your prey and you saw something else like and eagle wanting in on the act you'd maybe crunch it that bit harder...seen that many times (pre ban with two dogs on a fox) not sure it shows breed diversity at all just a young green pup and an older dog concerned it was going to have its quarry knicked.... After watching it again I could see it was a pup .... Still I think it takes some bottle to hang on to your quarry when a huge eagle is swooping down towards you ......... Dog probably views the eagle as a hunting ally rather than a threat...and no doubt have been brought up with each other (much the same as lurchers with ferrets) and are joined in an association to achieve a common purpose...ie catch that foxy varmint...dog won't be fazed by the bird in the slightest..interesting vid though.... 1 Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 i like watching hunting dogs in other countrys,,and i dont think ive ever critasisized,,, and im not about to start,,, but im prompted to a sugestion by a post earlier in the thread,,,, it sugested they would be no good here,,and our lurchers would be no good there,,, well im not so sure.... obviously this is just a theory ,, but it looked just like rolling grass land to me ,,, and most lurchers in the uk catch on similar land. be an intresting experiment to find out,,,, who's got a van and fancys a trip??.....lol 6000 years you think they'd of got one to retrieve by now get a good collie grey stuck over one. you know it makes sense Quote Link to post
Neoleaver 55 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Nice vid mate, enjoyed that......didnt realize there was any suggestion they were better/worse than UK lurchers or that they should add to the lurcher genepool. Just an interesting vid showing how they do it in Kazakstan.....a shame it wasnt Borat presenting...but you cant have everything. 1 Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Nice vid mate, enjoyed that......didnt realize there was any suggestion they were better/worse than UK lurchers or that they should add to the lurcher genepool. Just an interesting vid showing how they do it in Kazakstan.....a shame it wasnt Borat presenting...but you cant have everything. Quote Link to post
Banter 1,751 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What I found interesting was the diversity between two dogs of the same breed ... You had one that was mouthing the hare and didn't want to grab hold of it then another that hung on tight to a fox whilst an eagle hit it at full force ... Just shows that all breeds have their hard and soft types ............its all down to temprement this is where you will find marked differences in salukis from show stock and line bred working stock an example my dog will take a mouthful of a dog or bitch if they look at him lol his line are all the same and yet others are placid what line of saluki do you have ,any pics of them Quote Link to post
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