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[DIDO.1 22,846]

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

 

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

Yaaaaaaa fink???? Lol

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

Yaaaaaaa fink???? Lol

what chance have us lurchermen got when our own think we are scum lol.

[Astral 253]

I just shut up now and only bother with chats with those who I know hunt too. I've had enough of trying to hold a reasonable argument and people "assuming" all I want to do it take an automatic weapon to the entire British Countryside.

 

I hunt as it fulfils a primal urge I can't ignore, I only eat what I hunt. I try to use whatever I can as I'm interested in hide curing, bone jewelry, so nothing really bar the guts gets wasted. I have a LOT more respect for the countryside than some of the people who argue with me. Tell me Im disgusting then leave all their rubbish in a bush after their "countryside enjoyment" picnic. Which half the time I PICK UP!

 

Trying to explain that you need to manage certain numbers for the sake of other animals just provokes too much work too..

 

Nah 'm a shutup and smile, then do what I want girl. Shame really really, but then I barely knew the days when it was accepted. So I'm used to it.

[Guest norseman]

I tend to keep it to myself about hunting, was talking to a guy I worked with who was ferreting and fishing mad years ago (still does a spot of fishing). and we got round to talking about trapping, when I mentioned trapping magpies he was horrified, and compared it to badger baiting I just say nout now.

[twobob 1,497]

 

 

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

Yaaaaaaa fink???? Lol

what chance have us lurchermen got when our own think we are scum lol.

 

who gives a fxck just dont get caught

[baw 4,360]

I just shut up now and only bother with chats with those who I know hunt too. I've had enough of trying to hold a reasonable argument and people "assuming" all I want to do it take an automatic weapon to the entire British Countryside.

 

I hunt as it fulfils a primal urge I can't ignore, I only eat what I hunt. I try to use whatever I can as I'm interested in hide curing, bone jewelry, so nothing really bar the guts gets wasted. I have a LOT more respect for the countryside than some of the people who argue with me. Tell me Im disgusting then leave all their rubbish in a bush after their "countryside enjoyment" picnic. Which half the time I PICK UP!

 

Trying to explain that you need to manage certain numbers for the sake of other animals just provokes too much work too..

 

Nah 'm a shutup and smile, then do what I want girl. Shame really really, but then I barely knew the days when it was accepted. So I'm used to it.

Good post. I wish I knew you were a woman when you pm'd me yesterday only kidden

[DIDO.1 22,846]

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

 

 

NO I would rather work a lurcher than almost any other sport other than hounds. Just in this area, for so long its been almost impossible to run any kind of shoot or conservation work because of the high number of lurcher men who do as they please. I wont list the sort of things that they have got upto here on a public forum as i'm sure you have heard it all before. Because of them lurchers are a no go with all the landowners and farmers I know, I will defend all fieldsports but poachers with lurchers make it difficult in the areas i'm in. I would love a lurcher but would never dream of going with 5 other lads on to private land killing hares on the lamp to leave in a ditch, those acts are the problem. If you have the landowners permission you can get upto almost what you want, even in the eyes of the local police but illegal acts are illegal acts and allow our enemies to tar us all with the same brush. To often the term 'working class dog man' has come to mean poacher.

[DIDO.1 22,846]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

Yaaaaaaa fink???? Lol

what chance have us lurchermen got when our own think we are scum lol.

 

who gives a fxck just dont get caught

 

 

Iv spent most of my life defending all fieldsports, but how can I compete with the sod it 'dont get caught' view point?

[danw 1,748]

Well I for one am proud of what I am and what I do, I will not hide nor make excuse or even try and justify it,if folks don't like or oppose it they can excersise their right to jog the f**k on.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

I live in industrial lancashire, we are on the edge of some nice countryside and the pennines but just as close to some of the biggest urban areas in the uk, the countryside and rural pubs are also full to the brim with townies......yet while I reconise some of what you say I also think we dont do too bad. Local pubs and markets/butchers sell game like never before, on a days shooting or following hounds we may see hundreds of walkers, school groups and townies but id say 99 out of a hundred are fine and show interest, only the tiny minority have a problem. I make sure everyone I come into contact with knows I hunt, I have hunting stickers in my car and its never been damaged. I can proberly count on one hand the people in my area/social circle/pubs I visit who are really anti or have any issues with what I do, and I can easily show them right up in any discussion.

15 years ago I couldnt give game away, even if oven prepared, now people will ask me for it even in feather, because of all the cooking/hugh witenstall type programs.

 

Personally I think we are in a better position now than 15 years ago. We have the perfect stage to push game foods given the meat scares. We have changed peoples views on hunting with hounds, the average person now knows hunting is more than just snobs on horses and arnt really arsed anymore. Compared to public opionon/knowledge 15 to 20 years ago we have done loads.

 

But it is still in the hands of all who hunt, write to all your local newspapers at least once a year on any fieldsport/rural issue. Push local game on everyone you know, take local kids out fishing or set up an air rifle range in your garden. Put hunting stickers in your car, wear field sports t-shirts promting hunting, mention to everyone you meet that you hunt.

Interesting and I salute you sir. But I'm going for a stab in the dark here, I'm guessing your not a lurcherman, am I right?

 

Not anymore no, but again we reap what we sow. I have access to thousands of acres but I would struggle to find somewhere to run a dog, reason being the years of poaching by the hoards of lurcher men. You cant change public perception of some thing that takes place on land you dont heve permission to be on. I'm talking about my local area and if you work your lurchers on private land with permission then I envy you but for every legal dog man round here we have 20 poachers and its their actions than have affected legal dog work.

Without this turning into a tit for tat, reading what you have just written, would I be right in thinking you have a low opinion of lurchermen?

NO I would rather work a lurcher than almost any other sport other than hounds. Just in this area, for so long its been almost impossible to run any kind of shoot or conservation work because of the high number of lurcher men who do as they please. I wont list the sort of things that they have got upto here on a public forum as i'm sure you have heard it all before. Because of them lurchers are a no go with all the landowners and farmers I know, I will defend all fieldsports but poachers with lurchers make it difficult in the areas i'm in. I would love a lurcher but would never dream of going with 5 other lads on to private land killing hares on the lamp to leave in a ditch, those acts are the problem. If you have the landowners permission you can get upto almost what you want, even in the eyes of the local police but illegal acts are illegal acts and allow our enemies to tar us all with the same brush. To often the term 'working class dog man' has come to mean poacher.

Good post mate. Have to agree with you, the actions of some lurchermen have made it almost impossible to get permission for running dogs in places. Anytime I seek permission I do it for ferret work then ask about the dogs after I've gained their trust. Good posts mate and thanks for sharing your views, keep up the good work promoting our sport

[Malt 379]

Baw, I don't think it's society in general that's to blame it's fear of the anti hunting folk and the powerful animal rights charities and organisations that stops a lot of the publications from giving credit to us where it's due. They fear them because they are likely to kick off, shout loudly from any platform they can, cause damage, etc.. Then there's the press and media with their political views to put across.. Maybe it's because I've grown up in the countryside and in a rural area but I've never found non hunting people around me object to hunting, apart from the leftie art teachers back when I was in school. My mother in law is a near vegetarian due to her love for all things fluffy, but even she understands about hunting and doesn't really object.

[baw 4,360]

Baw, I don't think it's society in general that's to blame it's fear of the anti hunting folk and the powerful animal rights charities and organisations that stops a lot of the publications from giving credit to us where it's due. They fear them because they are likely to kick off, shout loudly from any platform they can, cause damage, etc.. Then there's the press and media with their political views to put across.. Maybe it's because I've grown up in the countryside and in a rural area but I've never found non hunting people around me object to hunting, apart from the leftie art teachers back when I was in school. My mother in law is a near vegetarian due to her love for all things fluffy, but even she understands about hunting and doesn't really object.

On the whole your right mate. Face to face, one on one people are decent and forgiving. It was Craigys right up that irked me. No mention of his love for hunting, tip toeing round it like its a dirty secret. I'm not trying to say it wasn't a good write up or be derogatory to it in any way. Just struck me how much our way of life is becoming unspeakable incase of reprisal, which is a bad state of affairs and doesn't bode well for our survival as we know it.

[Malt 379]

It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..