baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO.. So f***ing true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselves It's pretty sad though mate the way our sport has been washed down the sewer. I know plenty of poachers who use guns not dogs. The lurcherman gets the blame of everything, maybe I should have just made the thread about us lurchermen cos its becoming apparent its us and them. We don't stand a chance of joe public liking us and over turning the ban when other country persuits are persecuting us. They can ban shooting tomorrow for all I care Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redpat1 225 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 My friends think I lost the plot when I got the hunting bug, especially as I am a townie and always have been. The worst thing is I work in an office for a government agency (don't hate me, it pays well and has reasonable hours) and if I ever mention hunting which I have learnt not to do if I can help it, they look at me as though I have crawled out from under a rock and tried to steal their children! Although I have to listen to their endless banging on about last nights soaps or what their favourite celebrity was spotted doing. FFS, it drives me nuts. So when it comes to doing the business I keep myself to myself unless I am sure the people with me are interested and I just smile to myself smugly as they go home to sit on their backsides all weekend and the evenings watching the goggle box and shovelling processed crap in their mouths while I am out in the fresh air or just keeping myself busy walking the dogs or sorting my kit or even just making plans for my next adventure. Jesus, that does sound a bit smug! Im really not that smug, honest. Cheers Pat Why not oven prepare some game, I like to do bags of diced game and venison mixed with some stewing steak and give them out at work. Just explain its organic, free range home preduced meat. Play them at their own game. Id see it as a challenge. Dont try to talk them round just show them the light a bit at a time Its not a bad idea but I think someone has done that recently on a bigger scale with horse meat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 The shows here the lurchers are pushed away outside the main area whys that is it the same in uk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselves It's pretty sad though mate the way our sport has been washed down the sewer. I know plenty of poachers who use guns not dogs. The lurcherman gets the blame of everything, maybe I should have just made the thread about us lurchermen cos its becoming apparent its us and them. We don't stand a chance of joe public liking us and over turning the ban when other country persuits are persecuting us. They can ban shooting tomorrow for all I care Totally understand how you feel mate and it is a disgrace how the sports are divided but just as not all dog men are poachers not all shooters hate lurchers all I know is this I dont fly falcons dont fish they constantly distance themselves from us even try to discredit us but should attempts be made to get them banned I Will care and Will stand with them just as I stood with the dog lads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 The shows here the lurchers are pushed away outside the main area whys that is it the same in uk. I'm not a show person mate, only fair I go to is the one in scone palace in Perth and I can't think of there being any lurcher displays. There is falcon, gun dogs and even ferrets but I don't think anything to do with lurchers. Think this thread needs moved to the lurcher section lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselvesIt's pretty sad though mate the way our sport has been washed down the sewer. I know plenty of poachers who use guns not dogs. The lurcherman gets the blame of everything, maybe I should have just made the thread about us lurchermen cos its becoming apparent its us and them. We don't stand a chance of joe public liking us and over turning the ban when other country persuits are persecuting us. They can ban shooting tomorrow for all I care Totally understand how you feel mate and it is a disgrace how the sports are divided but just as not all dog men are poachers not all shooters hate lurchers all I know is this I dont fly falcons dont fish they constantly distance themselves from us even try to discredit us but should attempts be made to get them banned I Will care and Will stand with them just as I stood with the dog lads I appreciate that mate but trust me, when your sport gets singled out and crucified by all, it leaves a different taste in your mouth. We tried to stand as one but we were singled out and the other sports turned their back and threw us to the lions. When their day comes and it will good f***ing luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselvesIt's pretty sad though mate the way our sport has been washed down the sewer. I know plenty of poachers who use guns not dogs. The lurcherman gets the blame of everything, maybe I should have just made the thread about us lurchermen cos its becoming apparent its us and them. We don't stand a chance of joe public liking us and over turning the ban when other country persuits are persecuting us. They can ban shooting tomorrow for all I care Totally understand how you feel mate and it is a disgrace how the sports are divided but just as not all dog men are poachers not all shooters hate lurchers all I know is this I dont fly falcons dont fish they constantly distance themselves from us even try to discredit us but should attempts be made to get them banned I Will care and Will stand with them just as I stood with the dog ladsI appreciate that mate but trust me, when your sport gets singled out and crucified by all, it leaves a different taste in your mouth. We tried to stand as one but we were singled out and the other sports turned their back and threw us to the lions. When their day comes and it will good f*****g luck. Thing is mate I consider lurcher work my sport as well, just as I considered shooting handguns competitively my sport having had both effectively taken from me through no fault of mine I could be bitter and believe that every one was against us or I could stand alongside those that did support us no mater how few to defend there chosen sport Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGLURKS 874 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 The shows here the lurchers are pushed away outside the main area whys that is it the same in uk.I'm not a show person mate, only fair I go to is the one in scone palace in Perth and I can't think of there being any lurcher displays. There is falcon, gun dogs and even ferrets but I don't think anything to do with lurchers. Think this thread needs moved to the lurcher section lol there used too be a lurcher show was there not not been in 2 years though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brucemyster 75 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Part of the problem is the minority of inconsiderate fields sports persons giving a bad name for everyone else. The fisherman who's tackle ends up hanging from the beak of a swan, dogs witnessed running on land they have no permission for, shot gun cartridge casings littering the fields and woods, just a few things all of which give ammo to those who wish to bad mouth field sports, even a small write up about illegal hunting activities in the local rag can easily wipe out years of good work from those promoting the ways of hunting. When you talk to someone and they genuinely show an interest in what your talking about why not offer to take them along on one of your trips, I always do, I even offer to take those who bad mouth it as often they've never been and don't know what their talking about. Show them what it's really all about, how you treat your dogs, ferrets, birds, gear or what ever, better than one of the family, I know my stinkers get fed better then I do, and I get a scalding from the misses if their not covered at night and uncovered, fed and watered first thing. My spaniel is fed and watered and even showered after shooting before I get any grub or a cuppa and my guns and gear always cleaned and stashed where they should be after each trip. It's true we live in a throw away society and heaven forbid if supermarkets should ever have to close their doors, the country man would become king of the hill for sure, the film "the honourable Crichton" springs to mind (showing my age now, and waffling on!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO..So f*****g true malt. There were posters splashed about up here with a picture of a guy lamping urging folk to report illegal poaching, it had the basc logo on it. Not everyone lamping is a poacher as you know, so why make out they are They poster are bollocks anyway the folks as are going to report poaching already know whats legal and what aint its just the basc trying to distance its self from dogmen in an attempt to move the attention from themselvesIt's pretty sad though mate the way our sport has been washed down the sewer. I know plenty of poachers who use guns not dogs. The lurcherman gets the blame of everything, maybe I should have just made the thread about us lurchermen cos its becoming apparent its us and them. We don't stand a chance of joe public liking us and over turning the ban when other country persuits are persecuting us. They can ban shooting tomorrow for all I care Totally understand how you feel mate and it is a disgrace how the sports are divided but just as not all dog men are poachers not all shooters hate lurchers all I know is this I dont fly falcons dont fish they constantly distance themselves from us even try to discredit us but should attempts be made to get them banned I Will care and Will stand with them just as I stood with the dog lads I appreciate that mate but trust me, when your sport gets singled out and crucified by all, it leaves a different taste in your mouth. We tried to stand as one but we were singled out and the other sports turned their back and threw us to the lions. When their day comes and it will good f*****g luck. f**k it Baw...was gonna have ma say but can't mate I'd be here til the morn....and it'd just be a rant...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithie 2,443 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 To quote George Orwell " when speaking the truth in times of universal deceit will become a revolutionary act " . Your right mate from filling in forms for a job , when it asks what do you do in your leisure time ? I wonder how many would put digging or lamping lol . i would be putting shooting, ferreting, longnetting on any form i fill in as thats what i am and makes me me. never know it could get you the job if the person interviewing is a shooter.. 2 guys own the company were i work, one was a ferreter in is younger days and the other has shotguns 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's bending over to appease the ones who do the most shouting mate.. Like others have said, if we had a cross interest organisation that was prepared to shout as loud as our opponents we wouldn't be in this mess.. Something with teeth like the NRA in America would be needed IMO.. Funny you should mention NRA. Their new president made a speech yesterday, describing his members as "soldiers in a cultural war". Perhaps that's how we should see ourselves.....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 I'm gonna have a rant here and feel free to join in or disagree.... When I started out hunting, I was proud to be associated as a hunter, still am. But it's getting increasingly like a dirty little secret. I read on here for the first time yesterday the right up for craigyboy in his local newspaper regarding his memorial garden. Now the guy was obviously a keen hunter but its sad that the story about him can't reflect that without fear or repercussions. The say his fellow countryman and how he loved the countryside, nothing about his passion for hunting. It's like we all do a sordid act, our dirty little secret. It's really starting to boil my piss. That other thread where someone found a deer with broken legs and getting stress for doing the right thing. No one knows where we stand with the law now under circumstances that we took for granted less than a decade ago. It's f*****g pish that we are made to feel like we are doing wrong and its getting worse. howd you work that out??? he loved the countryside as much as us all, we knew him so f**k what any other kunt thinks......... PS you getting depressed lately mate??? just seems some of your threads are calling out for help?? PM if you prefer.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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