Fieldsports 155 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 This is my outlook on camouflage depending on the permission that you have. You will need good camo depending on the quarry you are pursuing and the situation you are in. Rabbits are more forgiving, and you will be able to do the sneak up and maybe shoot the scout left sitting after the rest have gone. In the spring, early summer you will be able to sit near a warren in a white tee shirt and jeans and shoot the half grown stuff that is getting bored of being underground for too long as their perception of fear is way off the mark at this age. Unless you have places where they haven’t normally been shot at or bothered by man or "man in vehicle", they will do offmans when they see you. When they are fully grown or have been educated by over enthusiastic shooters and rabbit haters they are tw@ts. Shooting from a vehicle can be productive as they see quads, tractors and other motors in the fields and no one bothers the rabbits as the person driving the vehicles are too busy to be bothering with rabbits. Sometimes vehicles are less a threat to them, like the spooky farm where you get hardly anything but there are loads of rabbits to be seen in the distance. If you have a place where "other shooters" take pot shots regularly or the farmer normally opens the gate then lets a shot fly, the rabbits become educated in danger (believe me they are not going to sit there at 35yards and die)! I believe this is bred into younger rabbits by the adults running for the hills and the young ones pick upon it very quickly. This produces an ill managed farm where rabbits are educated on "the dangers" and are near impossible to get without snares or drop boxes. Most people begin with this type of farm when they first get permission ! (You can ask your loving farmer " is there any other shooter doing the rabbits?") You will be told, “no not really just now and again, Dave from the village has a go but not often and there is loads of rabbits here.” If you decide to shoot crows / magpies over decoys. If you want to do this it is a great sport and a service for the landowner but be aware that these little blighters are so intelligent and on their guard it is not an easy task. This is where camo comes into the equation. OK..a simple day to day situation ! If you walk near a field with crows, corvids or maggies on it and they see you, take off and land still in the vicinity you may be able to get them if you have a gun. If the next time you walk the same field with a gun and they are off and off this is because “supposedly” they notice and do not like the straight lines that a gun resembles, but it is also said that a scope resembles an eye and that the reflection is a distress factor. SO, to overcome this you need GOOD camo ! I don’t mean British arms stuff, DPM stuff or a dark green pair of lightweight trousers. I mean broken camo that gives you the camo look but also breaks ups your outline and blends you in to the background you are in. Then you need to begin looking into a ghilli suite or a damn good hide, natural materials are always best to use for a hide but some manufactured hides are suitable unless you choose the cheap mass produced flat stuff with slits in it, I think they call it ( leafy three or real tee "Copyright © I know" or something like that ! I do not know) Thanks Steve Quote Link to post
deanothehunter 34 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I always go in normal jeans T-shirt / jumper but once I get there pull over my realtree mesh suit its light breathable and held up to light looks like a net curtain seeing through it quite well but once over the top of other clothes you blend in nicely, I wear it on every occasion whether sitting in wait for woodies, squirrels or rabbits and have found i had squirrels, foxes, and even rabbits walk past within grabbing distance, but on a few occasions years ago before this stuff was even thought of I found the normal clothes even in drab olives and browns was still picked up by sharp eyes. And this stuff is so good that on one shoot I had a lost dog walker who should'nt of been in the woods walk right passed me as I stood next to a tree and they seem to stare right through me as if I was'nt there, I was going to stop them and say this was private woodland but they would of probably killed over in fright so thought better of it Quote Link to post
hunter100t 56 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I always wear "disruptive" dpm, with no probs what so ever. I have used other stuff but other than my guilly suit, no difference what so ever. The trick is, how you carry youself around your shoot, fieldcraft, proper fieldcraft, takes along time to learn,you cant just read a book and think "i can do that" its time served. but if you cover the basics its a start, and the rest will come in time, as long as you learn on the way. you can go out and buy the best so called cammo in the world, but unless you know what you are about, it matters not, and would likely be a failed or unsatisfying shoot. The best advise i can give is always question why that rabbit ran off or why before it even saw you did it run, when your savvy to the answers, your on your way to learning fieldcraft, and hunting gets good after that. For me, dpm is an excellent pattern, and tough, quiet fabric thats got the job done over the years. just my opinion. atb phil Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Not only that you can buy 6 DPM NBC suits for £36, strip the lining from 2, summer camo, keep the lining in 2, winter camo, leaves 2 sets spare in case of barbed wire etc! Can't go wrong, shower proof, they are very quiet and suppress your scent too (as long as you leave the lining in)! Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I always wear "disruptive" dpm, with no probs what so ever. I have used other stuff but other than my guilly suit, no difference what so ever. The trick is, how you carry youself around your shoot, fieldcraft, proper fieldcraft, takes along time to learn,you cant just read a book and think "i can do that" its time served. but if you cover the basics its a start, and the rest will come in time, as long as you learn on the way. you can go out and buy the best so called cammo in the world, but unless you know what you are about, it matters not, and would likely be a failed or unsatisfying shoot. The best advise i can give is always question why that rabbit ran off or why before it even saw you did it run, when your savvy to the answers, your on your way to learning fieldcraft, and hunting gets good after that. For me, dpm is an excellent pattern, and tough, quiet fabric thats got the job done over the years. just my opinion. atb phil ayup phil i believe this sort of scenario to rfer to somebody who has ''all the gear, but no idea''!! like mole said loads of dpm suits for £36 is all you need regards, SKoT Quote Link to post
Craig Fosse 286 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I must admit tho mole, you wouldn't get me in an NBC suit even if you paid me! Too many bad memories of full kit and a respirator walking for miles because apparently the world is under attack by one man with blanks throwing smoke grenades hahaha! Quote Link to post
hunter100t 56 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) I always wear "disruptive" dpm, with no probs what so ever. I have used other stuff but other than my guilly suit, no difference what so ever. The trick is, how you carry youself around your shoot, fieldcraft, proper fieldcraft, takes along time to learn,you cant just read a book and think "i can do that" its time served. but if you cover the basics its a start, and the rest will come in time, as long as you learn on the way. you can go out and buy the best so called cammo in the world, but unless you know what you are about, it matters not, and would likely be a failed or unsatisfying shoot. The best advise i can give is always question why that rabbit ran off or why before it even saw you did it run, when your savvy to the answers, your on your way to learning fieldcraft, and hunting gets good after that. For me, dpm is an excellent pattern, and tough, quiet fabric thats got the job done over the years. just my opinion. atb phil ayup phil i believe this sort of scenario to rfer to somebody who has ''all the gear, but no idea''!! like mole said loads of dpm suits for £36 is all you need regards, SKoT Yep, Thats about the size of it skot lol And mole, bang on with the saving money angle, Think i may write a book covering the subject of "field craft" Do you think it would sell And you wont see me back in a full nbc suit either craig atb phil Edited May 2, 2013 by hunter100t Quote Link to post
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