Ireland F.a.o. Danny300 And Fakename

[digger. 615]

ah ffs 500 to 50 blips. put quarry in front of the dogs men my money is on danny

[AlbertJ 569]

ah ffs 500 to 50 blips. put quarry in front of the dogs men my money is on danny

 

Digger,

 

Fair play to Danny on ' picking up the gauntlet' on behalf of the working dogs and being prepared to put up £500 to go to a good cause if he lost. These arguments arise all the time over 'working' v 'show or racing' and they are divisive at a time when countrysports people need to be united rather than divided. There is a major battle going on over animal rights groups influence on government and thats what we are focusing on. That is why I attempted to turn this challenge into something positive, that could be enjoyed by people like you and me who like to see a challenge and a contest between two 'game' individuals, but that could end up with argument settled and both sides shaking hands and agreeing to differ. No one would lose face in my challenge and it stands open until one or both men turn it down.

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

 

ah ffs 500 to 50 blips. put quarry in front of the dogs men my money is on danny

 

Digger,

 

Fair play to Danny on ' picking up the gauntlet' on behalf of the working dogs and being prepared to put up £500 to go to a good cause if he lost. These arguments arise all the time over 'working' v 'show or racing' and they are divisive at a time when countrysports people need to be united rather than divided. There is a major battle going on over animal rights groups influence on government and thats what we are focusing on. That is why I attempted to turn this challenge into something positive, that could be enjoyed by people like you and me who like to see a challenge and a contest between two 'game' individuals, but that could end up with argument settled and both sides shaking hands and agreeing to differ. No one would lose face in my challenge and it stands open until one or both men turn it down.

 

well said albert get the quarry and get a few to watch it happen id def be up for going to see the match take place on live quarry just to show support towards hunting in general at the end of the day the money is going to charity

[digger. 615]

racing dogs and working dogs are two diffrent things a dog with quarry in front of it and playing the quarry the way it wants it to go is a diffrent ball game all 2gether good luck what ever use do lads

[digger. 615]

 

Ill say yet again racing breed dogs aren't breed to work there breed for pace to run in competations. still don't know weather it's on working ability as your brother stated in would happen in the fields? So Ian is it a race or on the dogs working ability in the fields on live game

yes it stated in the field...nigels dog is very capable of racing and hunting after all it is a lurcher. but yes when he said in the field he meant by coursing hare or rabbit by day or night though fox was never mentioned as this does not show speed or ability it only shows hardness and hardness was never what this was all about. they come on here and say that the lurchers at the shows can only run after a plastic bag. this is being very disrespectful to the lurcher men as i know alot of them that hunt with there dogs but also put them in for the races. At the end of the day what you do with your dog is your own business and no one has the right to come on here or any other forum and run you down for it. after all if the dog is well looked after and cared for isnt that all that matters. I would like to just point out at the' field of dreams' 70 percent of all the dogs racing where hunting lurchers not race breed dogs.

 

king lurcher your on about lamping hares and that speed and ability is not used in hunting foxes with lurchers your insulting every lurcher man thats hunts foxes all around the country and your judging lurchers at birr

[mr scent 665]

 

 

Ill say yet again racing breed dogs aren't breed to work there breed for pace to run in competations. still don't know weather it's on working ability as your brother stated in would happen in the fields? So Ian is it a race or on the dogs working ability in the fields on live game

 

yes it stated in the field...nigels dog is very capable of racing and hunting after all it is a lurcher. but yes when he said in the field he meant by coursing hare or rabbit by day or night though fox was never mentioned as this does not show speed or ability it only shows hardness and hardness was never what this was all about. they come on here and say that the lurchers at the shows can only run after a plastic bag. this is being very disrespectful to the lurcher men as i know alot of them that hunt with there dogs but also put them in for the races. At the end of the day what you do with your dog is your own business and no one has the right to come on here or any other forum and run you down for it. after all if the dog is well looked after and cared for isnt that all that matters. I would like to just point out at the' field of dreams' 70 percent of all the dogs racing where hunting lurchers not race breed dogs.

king lurcher your on about lamping hares and that speed and ability is not used in hunting foxes with lurchers your insulting every lurcher man thats hunts foxes all around the country and your judging lurchers at birr :lowal:

was thinkin the very same myself lol

[AlbertJ 569]

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

Edited May 4, 2013 by AlbertJ

[Banter 1,751]

wheres young Nigel has he filled his trunks on this one

[Guest thebigdog]

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

 

 

i think if you check, you will see running hares is still perfectly legal in ireland, north and south. this thread and the others say a lot about these shows and the people that you have involved with them. So far removed from the working dog culture in this country, yet put yourselves on a pedestal as a champion for fieldsports.

[mr scent 665]

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

hare illegal ,how do work that one out ,in my gun club rules it clearly states that the coursing of hares can be provided on the land with dogs in slips ?only asking a question here cause its in the rules of the club

[fat man 4,741]

 

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

hare illegal ,how do work that one out ,in my gun club rules it clearly states that the coursing of hares can be provided on the land with dogs in slips ?only asking a question here cause its in the rules of the club

 

I might be wrong Scent but do you not need a licence to net and also course hares,in the gun club i think the law is you can shoot hares in season but not sure on that either as im not really one for rules,Rules were made to be broken,lol.

[AlbertJ 569]

 

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

hare illegal ,how do work that one out ,in my gun club rules it clearly states that the coursing of hares can be provided on the land with dogs in slips ?only asking a question here cause its in the rules of the club

 

Sorry Mr Scent I meant illegal in NI - where hares are protected.

[fat man 4,741]

 

 

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

hare illegal ,how do work that one out ,in my gun club rules it clearly states that the coursing of hares can be provided on the land with dogs in slips ?only asking a question here cause its in the rules of the club

 

I might be wrong Scent but do you not need a licence to net and also course hares,in the gun club i think the law is you can shoot hares in season but not sure on that either as im not really one for rules,Rules were made to be broken,lol.

 

Forgot to add the dog dont know there are rules so if a hare jumps up while out walking its fair game for the dog,lol.

[Guest thebigdog]

 

 

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

hare illegal ,how do work that one out ,in my gun club rules it clearly states that the coursing of hares can be provided on the land with dogs in slips ?only asking a question here cause its in the rules of the club

 

Sorry Mr Scent I meant illegal in NI - where hares are protected.

 

no its not

[AlbertJ 569]

 

Mr Scent,

 

I think if you check what Ian said he was stating that there is a difference between a dog used on hare ( illegal) and rabbit and one used on foxes. At Birr he is judging dogs on conformation NOT working ability or speed . As i said although I have had my differences with Ian over the years I consider him to be a man of integrity who will judge fairly. That is all you can ask of any judge.

 

Albert

 

 

i think if you check, you will see running hares is still perfectly legal in ireland, north and south. this thread and the others say a lot about these shows and the people that you have involved with them. So far removed from the working dog culture in this country, yet put yourselves on a pedestal as a champion for fieldsports.

 

I don't set myself up as champion of anything other than running Game Fairs! But I do what I can wherever I can to support, promote and defend all legal country sports!

Edited May 4, 2013 by AlbertJ