BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 maybe that's because of the constant lies and bull kack the mps tell everybody then just fold and become corrupt to only help themselves and line theyre own pockets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 lol look t cameron and his cronies back tracking spineless c**ts. good on farage when asked if he would work with the tories,not with cameron i wouldnt lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Its the vote share that is more amazing. 25% of people voted for UKIP that is a very significant number. Don't forget they've come second place is several by-elections including the 'Safe' Labour seat of South Shields last night. Their downfall is that they don't yet have specific areas where their support comes from unlike Labour of the Cons and under a first past the post electoral system this is very harsh on a party that has similar numbers of supporters across the country. Clearly UKIP has realized this which is why they're concentrating on local elections, once people see that UKIP are doing things to help them in their daily life they will develop a base of support for the nation elections...as Nigel Farage says the model is actually how the Green party won their first seat. There will be another round of local elections next year and also the European elections there is a very good chance that if UKIP have another good showing people will see that UKIP have a chance to win seats in parliament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 lol look t cameron and his cronies back tracking spineless c**ts. good on farage when asked if he would work with the tories,not with cameron i wouldnt lol That's it mate, it's his straight talking. All these bullshit smears coming out are fooling no one, i mean his comment this morning had me pissing myself "send in the clowns" and the other day he was asked about that UKIP lad down Somerset supposedly doing the Nazi salute, "looks like youthful exuberance to me, but we'll look into it and if it's true, we'll get rid of him!".....simple as that. Other parties would have put a spin on it no doubt!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Uncle kens. Gone very. Quiet must have a phobia of clowns !!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 And In A Nut Shell Thats All People Want . . Honesty . . If Someone Throws A Spanner In The Works But Is Genuinely Honest About It In The Cold Light Off Day You Might Not Be Happy But You Accept And Appreciate There Honesty . . Hope That Comes Across Right ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 One of the Tory bigwigs was on before explaining that a lot of the UKIP voters were disillusioned BNP supporters .....running scared methinks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 All panicking wondering how their going to pay the moat , and duck house repairs worrying times eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 some advice for them :laugh: The Benefits SystemEveryone knows the benefit system is madely complicated and we all have moans and grown about it and who receives and why!.We all agree it needs to change as the country can no longer afford the amount its costing!.In my mind all the changes the present government are implementing are doing nothing to achieve this, most of there changes are just back door reductions in benefit to appease some and benefit others. Take "The bedroom Tax" its not a bedroom tax its a reduction in the housing benefit bill. If it was a bedroom tax it wouldn't`t just apply to all people claiming housing benefit, it would apply to all social housing tenants.To sort the benefit system culture is simple. Look at the facts.More benefits are paid to people in work than out of it Working tax credit.The National minimum wage needs to be replaced with a "Living Wage" set at the level where as people no longer need to claim benefits, This calculation is already known to the government as it is used to calculate benefits??Companies will say they carn`t afford to pay this increase? but why should the benefits system be used to prop up a business that carn`t afford to pay a wage to its employees that reflects the current cost of living? Family Tax credits and childcare creditsAll of these benefits should be scrapped, if you carn`t afford a family then perhaps you shouldn't`t start one until you can. Pension and Pension savings creditPensions should be set in line with the living wage and all other benefits should be scrapped Unemployment benefitAfter a period of 6 months then all unemployed should work full time for the community until such time as they gain employment. Any breaking of the rules should lead to permanent disqualification from benefits. Diability BenefitsThe right to claim disability benefits should be at the discretion of the claimants GPThe benefit should be paid at the rate of the living wage, All adaptations further funding needed should come from the budget of the local primary care trust as is currently the case for terminally ill and old age pensioners. All benefitsWhy the government wants to give money to people who don't need it has always baffled me. Especially when they then stand up and say we can no longer afford to keep up these levels of welfare payments. All benefits should be means tested against the living wage, This will be unpopular to some but it will be fair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,047 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Got to agree with that Paulus We have far too many leeches in this country, when you can make more sat at home pumping out kids than going to work there's something wrong. As an employer of 15 people ( plus subbie gangs), I know that you have to pay a fair wage to not only motivate but to make people want to work as opposed to sit home and sponge.... My apprentice's wage is boosted up every week to make it fair, I have another young lad who was on salary, I reviewed his wage to hours a coupe of weeks ago and felt it wasn't fair, he's now on an hourly rate above the minimum and is happy... I'm a small business but I realise our responsibility, I think once the bigger companies do too ( employ British at the right money) we can start moving forward.. We are a country who have always been hard working, innovative etc, its time to get that back... I hope we see a change and we get that national pride back... Edited May 4, 2013 by NEWKID Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Watch how the 'big three' gang up on Nigel Farage, trying the racism card and anything else they can think of. They can't stand the idea of real democracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 His answers are excellent. Makes me laugh how they all sit one side of the table and he sits the other side while they are trying to "point out the error of his ways" and at the bottom of the screen it clearly shows the voters don't agree! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Watch how the 'big three' gang up on Nigel Farage, trying the racism card and anything else they can think of. They can't stand the idea of real democracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECK6jFIb9spolitician Dont know all the UKIP policies.Have to give your man credit.Put they three in there place.One politician asking an other for a straight answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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bigdaz 688 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 I'll say this, I hear people saying I'm not voting nothing will change etc, but it's blatantly obvious and there for all to see, the change in the attitude of the politicians from the main parties is remarkable after the success ukip have just had. I actually think things are looking rosier already and not just because of ukips policies and plans (they might not work) but because the stranglehold of the main parties has been loosened and hopefully will be loosened further in the future. I'd also say with success comes confidence and I've always thought Farage was underestimated but he's on a roll now, straight talking and capable of going head to head with any of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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