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I am deeply sorry to hear of a clash of dates with two shows in close geographical proximity on the 1st June and that our qualifiers for the Master mc Grath for Shanes Castle on the 29th June and Five Nations for Birr Castle on the 1st September have been caught up in it. appleblossom has done her best to try to promote ALL of the events by putting up and updating lists of shows. In NI gundogs I co-ordinate a calendar of events to avoid such clashes and clubs as far as possible are allocated their traditional dates - if there is a clash we work it out amicably.

 

For our terrier & lurcher qualifiers we wanted to spread them around allowing the widest possible number of people to qualify and to help clubs attract extra competitors. It is not so bad if there are two events geographically spread but these two events are not. We had already awarded Fiona's show qualifiers as we did last year for the 1st June, when Leanne approached us for qualifiers for a show the next day. Although we thought it was a bit close to Fiona's show it was for an Autism Charity and as my nephew suffers from autism, irene worked with kids with autism as does one of my sons now, we felt it worthy of support and granted the show planned for 2nd June qualifiers. Now this show has moved to the 1st June creating a clash of dates. This is further complicated by the fact that the North Down show is being run under NILRC rules and we support the NILRC in its attempt to bring harmony to lurcher racing.

 

Can I publicly ask these two ladies to at least speak to each other about one moving their date - I think that everyone will realise that the person who agrees to move has the best interests of the lurcher & terrier world at heart and its not 'backing down'. If no -one moves there will be no winners in this as both shows will lose out. As a gesture - not a bribe - Irene and I will throw £150 into the prize fund of the organiser who does move.

 

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Albert

Im very dissapointed that iv had to come on to a public form to get a hold of you....

iv been ringing your house number for two solid days without answer, and you have my number

my internet has been down and iv had to leave the comfort of my home tonight to travel to a friend house to defend myself!

i thought we had all agreed to keep this sort of crap of the internet...???

im also going to say that im not at home 24/7 to get every live update on the internet wars....

 

yesterday i heard the news leanne had changed her date from sunday to a saturday to deliberatly run a show on the same date as my show.

i was shocked at how anyone would want to pick my date as you can plainly see how many other saturdays were free...

i have made connect with leanne though a mutual friend to try and talk her out of this maddness,(this can be confirmed)

as we were both going to lose out and niether of us may make enough money to cover rosettes and trophies,

her reply was "Not a chance, that saturday 1st was the only date she could get the field ,and that was final"

fair enough

so, i have been working my ass of trying to arrange helpers for a different date,

only to find now that there was £150 in the bargin and leanne has decided she can get a different date after all ! what a surprise !

Nice reward for starting a handling that should not have an issue in the first place

id like to point out no moral high ground has been taken!

and i will not be brought in to a slandering match as we all know whos champion

i will be agreeing to work under the NILRC rules as every sport needs rules, and give half a chance they will make thing better for everyone...

id also like to add even after everything thats happened in 2 days id still welcome with heart in hand leanne is very welcome to my show which i feel i will

have to put up prize money out of my own pocket

regards Fiona

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Hi Albert J, I run the Conwy Valley Hound, Terrier, Lurcher, Ferret and Stick show at Llanrwst, North Wales and in it we also hold the North Wales Terrier and Lurcher Champion of Champions and the North Wales Best Entered Terrier Championships. I would, if possible like to hold your qualifier at our show. which is on Sunday,14th of July. Please inbox me with your details. Thanks

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Albert

Im very dissapointed that iv had to come on to a public form to get a hold of you....

iv been ringing your house number for two solid days without answer, and you have my number

my internet has been down and iv had to leave the comfort of my home tonight to travel to a friend house to defend myself!

i thought we had all agreed to keep this sort of crap of the internet...???

im also going to say that im not at home 24/7 to get every live update on the internet wars....

 

yesterday i heard the news leanne had changed her date from sunday to a saturday to deliberatly run a show on the same date as my show.

i was shocked at how anyone would want to pick my date as you can plainly see how many other saturdays were free...

i have made connect with leanne though a mutual friend to try and talk her out of this maddness,(this can be confirmed)

as we were both going to lose out and niether of us may make enough money to cover rosettes and trophies,

her reply was "Not a chance, that saturday 1st was the only date she could get the field ,and that was final"

fair enough

so, i have been working my ass of trying to arrange helpers for a different date,

only to find now that there was £150 in the bargin and leanne has decided she can get a different date after all ! what a surprise !

Nice reward for starting a handling that should not have an issue in the first place

id like to point out no moral high ground has been taken!

and i will not be brought in to a slandering match as we all know whos champion

i will be agreeing to work under the NILRC rules as every sport needs rules, and give half a chance they will make thing better for everyone...

id also like to add even after everything thats happened in 2 days id still welcome with heart in hand leanne is very welcome to my show which i feel i will

have to put up prize money out of my own pocket

regards Fiona

 

Fiona,

 

I can't understand how you missed me yesterday as I was in for most of the day but to be fair it is rather bedlam here at the monent with stand bookings for the fairs and at times I was juggling three phones as everyone was out of the office preparing for two photoshoots today. I was on the go from 5 this morning to get my dogs sorted and down to Antrim for photo shoots all day and quite bluntly when I came home tonight at c 6.00 I had to get adverts and press releases away - so when I got your message I said I would 'phone you tomorrow - which I will. Two adverts are critical for tomorrow. I am waiting for designs to come back from my designer.

 

Albert

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Hi Albert J, I run the Conwy Valley Hound, Terrier, Lurcher, Ferret and Stick show at Llanrwst, North Wales and in it we also hold the North Wales Terrier and Lurcher Champion of Champions and the North Wales Best Entered Terrier Championships. I would, if possible like to hold your qualifier at our show. which is on Sunday,14th of July. Please inbox me with your details. Thanks

 

WD, Delighted to let you host qualifiers for the FN lurcher and Terrier Championships at Birr Castle on the 1st September - mail me address to irishgamefair@btinternet.com

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Albert

Im very dissapointed that iv had to come on to a public form to get a hold of you....

iv been ringing your house number for two solid days without answer, and you have my number

my internet has been down and iv had to leave the comfort of my home tonight to travel to a friend house to defend myself!

i thought we had all agreed to keep this sort of crap of the internet...???

im also going to say that im not at home 24/7 to get every live update on the internet wars....

 

yesterday i heard the news leanne had changed her date from sunday to a saturday to deliberatly run a show on the same date as my show.

i was shocked at how anyone would want to pick my date as you can plainly see how many other saturdays were free...

i have made connect with leanne though a mutual friend to try and talk her out of this maddness,(this can be confirmed)

as we were both going to lose out and niether of us may make enough money to cover rosettes and trophies,

her reply was "Not a chance, that saturday 1st was the only date she could get the field ,and that was final"

fair enough

so, i have been working my ass of trying to arrange helpers for a different date,

only to find now that there was £150 in the bargin and leanne has decided she can get a different date after all ! what a surprise !

Nice reward for starting a handling that should not have an issue in the first place

id like to point out no moral high ground has been taken!

and i will not be brought in to a slandering match as we all know whos champion

i will be agreeing to work under the NILRC rules as every sport needs rules, and give half a chance they will make thing better for everyone...

id also like to add even after everything thats happened in 2 days id still welcome with heart in hand leanne is very welcome to my show which i feel i will

have to put up prize money out of my own pocket

regards Fiona

 

Fiona,

 

I can't understand how you missed me yesterday as I was in for most of the day but to be fair it is rather bedlam here at the monent with stand bookings for the fairs and at times I was juggling three phones as everyone was out of the office preparing for two photoshoots today. I was on the go from 5 this morning to get my dogs sorted and down to Antrim for photo shoots all day and quite bluntly when I came home tonight at c 6.00 I had to get adverts and press releases away - so when I got your message I said I would 'phone you tomorrow - which I will. Two adverts are critical for tomorrow. I am waiting for designs to come back from my designer.

 

Albert

 

ok albert ,

still cant understand how or why it had to be spread all over a public form before i was even inform of any of this, think we all need to draw are horns in here,

looks like an attempt at making me look like the bad guy and im clearly not the one who started all this non-sence, and there was a very quick chance of heart and dates when money comes into play!!

but sure im sure this will be plain to see!!

talk to you tomorrow

Fiona

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Albert

Im very dissapointed that iv had to come on to a public form to get a hold of you....

iv been ringing your house number for two solid days without answer, and you have my number

my internet has been down and iv had to leave the comfort of my home tonight to travel to a friend house to defend myself!

i thought we had all agreed to keep this sort of crap of the internet...???

im also going to say that im not at home 24/7 to get every live update on the internet wars....

 

yesterday i heard the news leanne had changed her date from sunday to a saturday to deliberatly run a show on the same date as my show.

i was shocked at how anyone would want to pick my date as you can plainly see how many other saturdays were free...

i have made connect with leanne though a mutual friend to try and talk her out of this maddness,(this can be confirmed)

as we were both going to lose out and niether of us may make enough money to cover rosettes and trophies,

her reply was "Not a chance, that saturday 1st was the only date she could get the field ,and that was final"

fair enough

so, i have been working my ass of trying to arrange helpers for a different date,

only to find now that there was £150 in the bargin and leanne has decided she can get a different date after all ! what a surprise !

Nice reward for starting a handling that should not have an issue in the first place

id like to point out no moral high ground has been taken!

and i will not be brought in to a slandering match as we all know whos champion

i will be agreeing to work under the NILRC rules as every sport needs rules, and give half a chance they will make thing better for everyone...

id also like to add even after everything thats happened in 2 days id still welcome with heart in hand leanne is very welcome to my show which i feel i will

have to put up prize money out of my own pocket

regards Fiona

 

Fiona,

 

I can't understand how you missed me yesterday as I was in for most of the day but to be fair it is rather bedlam here at the monent with stand bookings for the fairs and at times I was juggling three phones as everyone was out of the office preparing for two photoshoots today. I was on the go from 5 this morning to get my dogs sorted and down to Antrim for photo shoots all day and quite bluntly when I came home tonight at c 6.00 I had to get adverts and press releases away - so when I got your message I said I would 'phone you tomorrow - which I will. Two adverts are critical for tomorrow. I am waiting for designs to come back from my designer.

 

Albert

 

ok albert ,

still cant understand how or why it had to be spread all over a public form before i was even inform of any of this, think we all need to draw are horns in here,

looks like an attempt at making me look like the bad guy and im clearly not the one who started all this non-sence, and there was a very quick chance of heart and dates when money comes into play!!

but sure im sure this will be plain to see!!

talk to you tomorrow

Fiona

 

Fiona,

 

If you read my first post I DID NOT criticise you - I made it clear that Leanne had been offered qualifiers for the 2nd June not your date. I suggested that if possible someone should move. When Leanne did I congratulated her on this - by doing so I was not criticising you. My initial post was by way of suggesting that it would be better as I do for gundog tests to have a co-ordinator - I'm sure Margaret might do this - to avoid clashes. OK if its North /South but I felt North/North was too close. We'll talk tomorrow I have my adverts through and sent on to the publications - I am for bed after a very long day. But I am glad this matter has been resolved and I congratulate you on welcoming Leanne to your show. Albert

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Im very dissapointed that iv had to come on to a public form to get a hold of you....

email, phone,facebook buy useing your good friends computer. as i had no problems in contacting albert over the past week.

iv been ringing your house number for two solid days without answer, and you have my number

same as above......

my internet has been down and iv had to leave the comfort of my home tonight to travel to a friend house to defend myself!

you also have my number like u have done for a number off years now.

i thought we had all agreed to keep this sort of crap of the internet...???

there was no crap to begin with untill my dates had to be swaped BUY LANDOWER. not buy myself.....

im also going to say that im not at home 24/7 to get every live update on the internet wars....

iam right with you on that one. as ive two young kids to looks after and hardly have the time to get on here

 

yesterday i heard the news leanne had changed her date from sunday to a saturday to deliberatly run a show on the same date as my show.

DELIBERATY would'nt be the word i would off used for this case. landowner was'nt happy with the day i had choosen and give me the saturday which i was not happy with but really did'nt have a leg to stand on at that time........

i was shocked at how anyone would want to pick my date as you can plainly see how many other saturdays were free...

same answer as above

i have made connect with leanne though a mutual friend to try and talk her out of this maddness,(this can be confirmed)

as we were both going to lose out and niether of us may make enough money to cover rosettes and trophies,

i agree with you there yes this can be confirmed as i stated to your friend dessie THAT'S THERE NOT A CHANCE FARMER WILL CHANGE....

her reply was "Not a chance, that saturday 1st was the only date she could get the field ,and that was final"

fair enough

same anwser as above

so, i have been working my ass of trying to arrange helpers for a different date,

iam on the same boat as yourself......

only to find now that there was £150 in the bargin and leanne has decided she can get a different date after all ! what a surprise !

Nice reward for starting a handling that should not have an issue in the first place

i begged and begged the landowner 2day if i could swap my date to the 8th and his reply was no... abit more beggin and getting him to understand that it was for charity and that i was getting offered a nice cheque for £150 towards the charity he then give in WHICH CAN BE CONFIRMED. IAM THINKING OFF THE CHARITY NOT MYSELF AND THE YOUNG CHILDERN THAT NEED ARE HELP MORE MONEY THE BEST CHANCE FOR THESE KIDS.........

id like to point out no moral high ground has been taken!

same

and i will not be brought in to a slandering match as we all know whos champion

ive heard it all now :blink:

i will be agreeing to work under the NILRC rules as every sport needs rules, and give half a chance they will make thing better for everyone...

agree

id also like to add even after everything thats happened in 2 days id still welcome with heart in hand leanne is very welcome to my show which i feel i will

have to put up prize money out of my own pocket

yes i also would like to put after everything that has happened over the past year I WOULD WELCOME YOU TO MY CHARITY EVENT. and i wish u all the best with your show fiona now that the dates has been corrected we can now move on and enjoy putting on are events in the hope that we can raise as much as possable.

 

regards leanne

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      And Finally, Finally, Harry John Digging you were definitely the King of Scrabo on Sunday and in a league of your own. Along with your back up angel Gail Ross, who pulled out all the stops to make everything run so smoothly, and Sam Ross the photographer who took some lovely photographs, you brought town and country North and South of the border together for another great sporting day out.
      You are a shinning light in our Country Sport traditions and for a first time show and venue, it was excellent and without contradiction.  Harry John Digging you should be proud of the work you done on Sunday. Thank you for a day full of joy and excitement and roll on 2025 for more of the same.
       
      Margaret Mc Stay
       
    • By appleblossom
      List of classes For the Combined Clubs Dog Show This Saturday 7th September 24
      For Your Sat Navs:
      BT63 6EB
      Terrier classes.
      1 Any variety pup.
      2 Russell dog/bitch
      3 Lakeland dog/bitch
      4 patterdale dog/bitch
      5 border dog /bitch
      6 crossbred dog /bitch
      7 working dog /bitch
      8 veterans dog/bitch
      9 pairs.
      Heavy Dogs.
      1 Any variety pup
      2 small staff dog /bitch 
      3 large type staff dog /bitch
      4 English bull dog/bitch
      5 Wheaten dog /bitch
      6 American bull dog /bitch
      7 working dog /bitch
      8 working class dog /bitch
      9 veterans dog/bitch
      10 Added another class in Strong Dogs (any other type of strong )
      Lurcher Classes 
      1 a lurcher pups
      2 smooth under 23 inch 
      3 smooth over 23 inch 
      4 rough under and over 23 inch 
      5 bull x dog /bitch
      6 collie x dog /bitch
      7 hare dog /bitch 
      8 fox dog /bitch
      9 veterans dog /bitch.
      Whippets 
      1 pups 
      2 whippet dog 
      3 whippet bitch
      4 working whippet 
      5 veterans whippet.
      There will also be a child's class.
      The Northern Ireland Championship will be directly after the show.
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