porkycrook 466 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I have been informed that before I go shooting on one of my permissions again, that their insurance wants to carry-out a Risk Assessment. I have explained that I carry my own insurance but they still insist on doing a Risk Assessment themselves. First question, What the heck is one. Second question, What takes place, what do they do? Third question, Should I be worried? Thank you Roger Quote Link to post
derbylad1 293 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Its an odd one, but with us becoming a sueing culture like the yanks, then its understandable. A risk assessment is a kind of report from a survey, that decides if there are any risks involved with you shooting on your permission. It first says what the hazards are, (eg. you carrying a gun to shoot quarry) and then what are the risks (what could happen ie. you shoot someone). It then gets written down how these incidents can be prevented. I hope that makes sense. You have no reason at all to be worried. You will be asked a few questions on how you conduct your shoot but that about it. Questions like, what checks do you do or what safety mearsures do you have (having the gun broken when not shooting. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post
The one 8,481 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Nope just put down what your going to do ie no shooting unless theres a safe back stop etc i did one and it worked for six years till somebody complained then health and safety stopped me for a year rewrote the risk assessment changed it to no shooting from the car and i had to wear a fluorescent waistcoat in case i fell to assist folk looking for me with torches . but with a risk assessment and insurance it opens a load more doors for shooting Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think you can get them on line .We have to do them for some of are work in bigger buildings jobs and commercial buildings Quote Link to post
The one 8,481 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 just doing a risk assessment means your agreeing to doing things a certain way , do something wrong and they have it on paper that you agreed no to do it that way Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 When you carry out a Risk Assessment you are assessing what risks there may be, and in doing so you are then reducing the chance of having an accident because you are then aware of these risks. If there is uneven ground they would love it if you were to point this out ' Corner of field could be a trip hazard due to uneven ground', If there is a boggy area you could put 'Area by gate a slip hazard due to boggy/wet ground'. It's all waaaaay over the top, but this is the way things are going. The trick is to be more red tape than them. If you go on the HSE site you can see a risk assessment form. Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Google 'Basic Risk Assessment Form for Shooting'. Click on the top one, Countryside Aliance, then scroll right to the bottom. They have a good example of a shooting R/A.. Quote Link to post
neil82 1,080 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 just remember to also add the risks involved with picking your nose after loading your gun, `may be danger of lead inhalation` Quote Link to post
AR177 588 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 They are very simple mate but if you don't know what to do don't do it yourself as they must be carried out by a competent person - that's why the insurance company will send and assessor out. The assessor will then (or should if he is any good) come and speak to you and ask you a few questions and he will decide on the hazards and the risk involved with your activities and whether any control measures need to be in place, such as if your alone working in the site a method of communication with others or a checking in system in case you get injured or even just warning signs to say your in the area and a million other things they will consider. Do not worry though they will just want to make sure you are beng safe for yourself and others around you. If they deem that the risk isn't significant then nothing will change in your situation mate .. If they do then it depends on the recommendations of the assessor. Quote Link to post
clubshot 22 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Get it right as more land is Owned by large property Groups - Fully expect it to be requested more often Might pay to get another Shooter to write it - following you around Big concerned is single Shooters being on land - might slip and hurt self and not be able to contact another person Multi Shooters on Land having a Central - board advising other Shooters on Land - Yes you Should have own cover but they could still be liable if they have not got certian issues correct - Aware from Shooting on Local authority land - when a employee. BOB/R Quote Link to post
porkycrook 466 Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thank you guys for some good information. Quote Link to post
Stuart1985 256 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Spot on info above Quote Link to post
hugo1 31 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Dont know if already said but you cant do your own risk assessment Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Risk assesment point 1 ---- dont miss point 2 ---- reffer to point 1 Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Dont know if already said but you cant do your own risk assessment Any one can carry out a risk assessment as long as they are competent. Check out the HSE's 'Five Steps to Risk Assessment'. Quote Link to post
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