Help Me Pick .177

[GEOFF.223 83]

i have just sold my hw100 fac .22

as it had its down fall from being to powerful for in barns and sheds etc as is was putting holes in tin after going through bird at 25 - 30 yards.

 

sooo any way gonna down grade to 12ftlb up to 18ftlb .177 im kinda pushed to getting a spring gun but i do love pcp's and if a hw100 .177 came up i would jump at it.

 

what what kind of drop will i have say if i zero at 35yards and shot to 50yards ?

[Craig Fosse 286]

I zero at 30 ish yards mate and I'm 1 mildot holdover for 45 yards on my .177 s200 but I don't shoot to 50 I'm afraid

[dtw 42]

I zero at 35 yard,one mill dot equates to 49 yards a drop of just under 2 inches hw100 .177, however this is very gun, power, pellet and scope calabration specific.

[andyfr1968 772]

An 18ft-lb .177 won't solve your problem with holes in the roof. If you need something for that kind of close range shooting get a sub 12 .22.

[eat4peace 21]

Sorry mate you're completely wrong to think that an 18 ft/lb .177 will do less damage than a sub 12 ft/lb .22!
A .22 is less damaging to buildings than a .177 at the same power as it penetrates less and deforms more quickly.
I use a 12ft/lb .22 with very heavy hollow point (Bisley pest controls or H&N hunter extremes) for all my barn work, and most of the time they don't exit the bird.

Sorry mate but you've got your logic the wrong way around here, the 18 ft/lb .177 will be devastating to barn roofs as it will go in and out of a pigeon with little loss of power.

I'd look for a 12 ft/lb .22

[stealthy1 3,964]

I just shoot the pigeons while their on the beams, so a sub 12 will marmalize them easily

[GEOFF.223 83]

Sorry mate you're completely wrong to think that an 18 ft/lb .177 will do less damage than a sub 12 ft/lb .22!

A .22 is less damaging to buildings than a .177 at the same power as it penetrates less and deforms more quickly.

I use a 12ft/lb .22 with very heavy hollow point (Bisley pest controls or H&N hunter extremes) for all my barn work, and most of the time they don't exit the bird.

 

Sorry mate but you've got your logic the wrong way around here, the 18 ft/lb .177 will be devastating to barn roofs as it will go in and out of a pigeon with little loss of power.

I'd look for a 12 ft/lb .22

A 18ftlb .177 will do less damage than a 26ftlb .22 that's what i mean.

[GEOFF.223 83]

don't go off topic here yes i know .177 will not dispand it energy as fast as a .22 .25 etc etc

 

but im almost certain if i use a flat face pellets at a minimum at say 20 yards it will less damage than a 26 ftlb .22

 

yes i know the 12ftlb .22 will be the perfect tool but i want to taste a .177 as here in Ireland there are very very very few of them, it will be used for various job's not just in sheds.

 

 

SO FORGET ABOUT THAT STUFF AND RECOMMEND ME A NICE .177 RIFLE AND WHAT PELLETS IT LIKES????????

[andyfr1968 772]

I see where you're coming from and I also like higher powered .177s, they do have their uses.

 

The problem you'll get is that most flat heads tend to be on the light side so that means that at the kind of power you're asking for that most of them will be leaving the barrel at close to the speed of sound and that's where all sorts of funny things happen to a projectile. Flat heads are really designed for low powered target guns to shoot a nice clean hole in a paper target at between around two to six hundred FPS and not close to the twelve hundered that you'll end up close to at 18. They really will be all over the place even at short range.

Edited April 23, 2013 by andyfr1968

[mark williams 7,551]

Hi mate,

In a pcp - HW 100 KT 177 - i struggle to miss

In a springer HW 97 KT- tuned

 

Zeroed at 35 yds will need a one milldot holdover to hit the money at 50yds.

 

Air Arms Field Diablo (in my humble opinion)

Do remember though mate that the holdover will be different with different pellets,The HW 100 loves Air Arms Field.

 

atb.

Edited April 24, 2013 by mark williams

[GEOFF.223 83]

Hi mate,

In a pcp - HW 100 KT 177 - i struggle to miss

In a springer HW 97 KT- tuned

 

Zeroed at 35 yds will need a one milldot holdover to hit the money at 50yds.

 

Air Arms Field Diablo (in my humble opinion)

Do remember though mate that the holdover will be different with different pellets,The HW 100 loves Air Arms Field.

 

atb.

12ftlb or 18

 

yeah understand different pellet weight differs the poi my hw100 was 4 1/4 mail dots at 75yards

[GEOFF.223 83]

was considering a r10 mk2 .177 any one have one ?

[villaman 9,983]

was considering a r10 mk2 .177 any one have one ?

Yes mate I have R10 .177 and a HW100kt .22 out of the two HW 100 kt wins hands down .

[j j m 6,539]

have had bothe above huns in the pate bothe very good,but the 100 is the best of the two

[hunter100t 56]

The r 10 is a beautiful rifle, The HW is very good at its job, and to my mind has many more plus points than the r 10. .177 still goes through a roof, however, if you use a quality flat head at the distances you mentioned you will have no probs at all, or ,like someone mentioned earlier, make sure there is a beam or such like to stop it, then you can use any pellet you like, barn shooting even with an fac .177 using flat heads, is fine at the distances you need, just make sure of that back stop, and try and keep it under 1122 fps to avoid that ear splitting crack inside the confines of a barn !

To be honest, I would have kept your .22, just have used light flat heads with a back stop. Thats how i get round damage limitation with my own fac's.

 

atb phil