skycat 6,173 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 So sorry to hear that. I know you said she was old (er) but how old was she? Heart problems aren't that uncommon in older dogs. And I'm sorry if I gave you a hard time over the photo when you first put it up. That's the problem with t'internet: we never have all the facts! Once again, I'm sorry for your loss, but it sounds as though you made the right decision for the wee bitch. Quote Link to post
Guest long-tail Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 So sorry to hear that. I know you said she was old (er) but how old was she? Heart problems aren't that uncommon in older dogs. And I'm sorry if I gave you a hard time over the photo when you first put it up. That's the problem with t'internet: we never have all the facts! Once again, I'm sorry for your loss, but it sounds as though you made the right decision for the wee bitch. not worried about getting hard time,pic may have warrented it although i dont believe so but neither here or there now,the bitch dropped the weight in a matter of a couple weeks,she would have been 2 year old next month,never mind eh cheers Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Only 2 years old? I thought she was older. That's even more of a shame in that case. Worse to lose a young dog like that. I lost a young bitch many years ago: also dropped weight suddenly: turned out she had a tumour near her heart. Wasn't about to have her opened up for a very dangerous operation that only had a 80/20 chance of survival. Re the pic: every time anyone puts a photo on the internet, remember that viewers are seeing the thing for the first time: whereas the owner has had time, maybe not a lot, to get used to the appearance of the animal. Sometimes, not always, an animal can look worse in a photo than in real life as well, though it is usually the other way round in cases of weight loss. 1 Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Very sad news. I'm sorry. Quote Link to post
Taz-n-Lily 62 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Just read the whole thread - good on you for doing the right thing, and sorry for your loss. I didn't see the pic in question, but overall it's good that you posted it imo. Living with an animal day in, day out, it's easy to miss what others will see straight away. I did with my last old dog, Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Sorry about your loss, but it is good that you had the strength to make the right decision for the dog. TC Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 sorry to hear that longtail,i never seen the photo but from what i read and the comments you got i can only imagine why they were concerned and only want the best for the dog Quote Link to post
LaraCroft 863 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Sorry to hear that , and a tough decision to have to make. Quote Link to post
csd_88 138 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Its underweight in the 2nd pic it has nothing on its back no covering on its ribcage and looks weak between the shoulders plus the coat is dull i would put more fat into the diet add something extra to bulk it up two different pics,its the second bitch im on about,more fat in the diet to bulk her out.........suggestions please Either get a complete food that is at least 25% protein and 16% fat: this is listed on the side of the bag of dog food, OR, get some breast of lamb (ribs and flaps). Feed her twice a day: two smaller meals are better than one big meal. She needs protein (meat or meat based complete food) to put on muscle, and extra calories (fat/carbohydrate) to bulk up properly. Also, when was she last wormed and with what wormer? 26% protein are you joking? I'd find a food with about 19% and high carbohydrate, carbs put weight on a dog not protein. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Its underweight in the 2nd pic it has nothing on its back no covering on its ribcage and looks weak between the shoulders plus the coat is dull i would put more fat into the diet add something extra to bulk it uptwo different pics,its the second bitch im on about,more fat in the diet to bulk her out.........suggestions please Either get a complete food that is at least 25% protein and 16% fat: this is listed on the side of the bag of dog food, OR, get some breast of lamb (ribs and flaps). Feed her twice a day: two smaller meals are better than one big meal. She needs protein (meat or meat based complete food) to put on muscle, and extra calories (fat/carbohydrate) to bulk up properly. Also, when was she last wormed and with what wormer? 26% protein are you joking? I'd find a food with about 19% and high carbohydrate, carbs put weight on a dog not protein. To be honest CSD dogs get very little nutrional value out of carbohydrates...infact a dog will and can survive happily with NONE..dry feed is almost half Carbs,it's just a cheap way of filling up the bag lol,dogs tolerate it but they do not need it...protein and fat is what a dog thrives on and raw feed covers those two without ny fuss...I aint no expert but I did read up on this many years ago lol.... Quote Link to post
The one 8,486 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 hard thing to do for such a young dog but you got to do right by them Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Its underweight in the 2nd pic it has nothing on its back no covering on its ribcage and looks weak between the shoulders plus the coat is dull i would put more fat into the diet add something extra to bulk it uptwo different pics,its the second bitch im on about,more fat in the diet to bulk her out.........suggestions please Either get a complete food that is at least 25% protein and 16% fat: this is listed on the side of the bag of dog food, OR, get some breast of lamb (ribs and flaps). Feed her twice a day: two smaller meals are better than one big meal. She needs protein (meat or meat based complete food) to put on muscle, and extra calories (fat/carbohydrate) to bulk up properly. Also, when was she last wormed and with what wormer? 26% protein are you joking? I'd find a food with about 19% and high carbohydrate, carbs put weight on a dog not protein. To be honest CSD dogs get very little nutrional value out of carbohydrates...infact a dog will and can survive happily with NONE..dry feed is almost half Carbs,it's just a cheap way of filling up the bag lol,dogs tolerate it but they do not need it...protein and fat is what a dog thrives on and raw feed covers those two without ny fuss...I aint no expert but I did read up on this many years ago lol.... Fair point and yes, a dog will survive without carbs and thrive and do well - but for sticking weight on a dog...carbs do the business...the human obesity crisis in developed nations ain't down to eating too much protein (basic premise of the Atkins diet - no carbs masses of protein weight drops off) but from eating too many carbs in the shape of bread, biscuits and cakes etc...and a high/er protein diet ain't gonna fix that...good flesh lamb etc, quality complete around the 20% mark...and mixed with pasta/rice/brown bread and veg...get the weight on...once them old bones are covered...cut the carbs, up the protein and the work...job done... 1 Quote Link to post
csd_88 138 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'd go with that advice borderscot makes sense to me Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 you,ve no had much luck with the dogs the last few years longtail, sorry to hear Quote Link to post
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