Badgers

[broadleaf 3]

culling badgers will not eliminate the problem you will only cull a fraction of them .There are also other animals such as deer that can spread tb I think the only thing that will work totally will be vaccinating cattle and the cull money would be better spent on that aim

[hutch6 550]

culling badgers will not eliminate the problem you will only cull a fraction of them .There are also other animals such as deer that can spread tb I think the only thing that will work totally will be vaccinating cattle and the cull money would be better spent on that aim

 

There isn't a reliable vaccination for cattle.

 

There IS a vaccine but there are two major drawbacks - it's not 100% guaranteed and when the livestock has been vaccinated and TB tests are carried out the vaccinated cattle show a positive response to the TB tests regardless so it looks like vaccinated cattle have bTB so would have to be destroyed regardless.

[The one 8,493]

Watching a tv programme the government vets said they where a good five years away from producing any type of vaccination that would work for cattle or badgers ,so this debate will be with us for a while yet

[whippet 99 2,613]

lovely animals like to see them about in there own habitat...................a little respect for them...

[Lab 10,979]

lovely animals like to see them about in there own habitat...................a little respect for them...

It's amazing how quick they are too..... Maybe faster than a chihauhau but not as fast as say.....a Lurcher.

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

lovely animals like to see them about in there own habitat...................a little respect for them...

It's amazing how quick they are too..... Maybe faster than a chihauhau but not as fast as say.....a Lurcher.

 

we dont see them here in the big city but there a respected animal..........i wouldnt have a clue what is faster......when you only keep whippets your a little limited

[Lab 10,979]

Beginning too see more and more of them here. I was fed up with catching them and releasing them in my cage trap that I just gave up with it in the end....:-)

[The one 8,493]

Aye lab it was rare to see them here but there getting further and further up now

[Lab 10,979]

Aye lab it was rare to see them here but there getting further and further up now

Aye there a nuisance......the electric fence now keeps them out thank goodness.

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

lovely animals like to see them about in there own habitat...................a little respect for them...

It's amazing how quick they are too..... Maybe faster than a chihauhau but not as fast as say.....a Lurcher.

 

 

Definately not as fast a lurcher!....................... I've never had one catch my skinny fecker yet!

 

That's why it's essential to cross greyhound into them, so the badgers can't catch them!

Edited April 22, 2013 by Born Hunter

[ratattack 111]

 

 

I know this is a topical subject but I have been having a massive problem with pigs on the golf courses that I deal with ie. digging up the courses looking for the shafer grubs. the problem that I have is that I can deal with the moles but the pigs are making one hell of a mess.Don`t you think that there is a time when enough is enough and the time has come when the problem of the of the Badger has to be dealt with?.is there to much pussy footing around where Badgers are concerned?foot and mouth! do we need that again?Our jobs would be on the line if this nasty disease would ever surface again.why do we have to put up with the majority when the majority dont understand what goes on in the real countryside.This is a question that I would probably expect a lot of answers or questions I don`t really know, but i hope that we can get a good and reasonable argument as to what we ( the people of the countryside and the ones that know best ) should do next. Are we being forced into a corner or are we being slowly crushed so that we don`t have a voice?I think that it is about time that the countryside stood up and started to battle against the masses that are drowning the great countryside that we have left.we now have a massive problem with Badgers?

 

 

 

we now have a massive problem with badgers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should read this weeks farmers guardian and be horrified by the amount of cattle culled because of bovine TB all down to fecking brocks

 

Bovine TB has been ' endemic ' in the national herd,for a long time now, and im certainly not fully convinced at this stage,its all down to badgers..........

 

Google the thornbury experiment, the culled the badgers in that area, all of them! TB dropped to zero for around 10 years, then over time infected badgers returned and so did TB.

 

No coincidence there!

 

The only reason badgers got protection in the first place is dickheads digging and then baiting with them! So thank those guys for the protection.

 

TB was also at a much lower level before they were protected because people controlled them, there is no real reason why they shouldn't be returned to the open general licence to be shot with a closed season from jan to may. That way they will be controlled and TB levels will decrease as in TB hotspots they will be removed by a large number of people and numbers will be kept in touch.

 

Ground nesting birds, hedgehogs, bumblebees etc will also increase with less predation, win win i say.

 

Doubt the furry twat brian may and his bumchum gavin grant will oppose any badger removals though.

[snakey 4]

 

 

 

I know this is a topical subject but I have been having a massive problem with pigs on the golf courses that I deal with ie. digging up the courses looking for the shafer grubs. the problem that I have is that I can deal with the moles but the pigs are making one hell of a mess.Don`t you think that there is a time when enough is enough and the time has come when the problem of the of the Badger has to be dealt with?.is there to much pussy footing around where Badgers are concerned?foot and mouth! do we need that again?Our jobs would be on the line if this nasty disease would ever surface again.why do we have to put up with the majority when the majority dont understand what goes on in the real countryside.This is a question that I would probably expect a lot of answers or questions I don`t really know, but i hope that we can get a good and reasonable argument as to what we ( the people of the countryside and the ones that know best ) should do next. Are we being forced into a corner or are we being slowly crushed so that we don`t have a voice?I think that it is about time that the countryside stood up and started to battle against the masses that are drowning the great countryside that we have left.we now have a massive problem with Badgers?

 

 

 

we now have a massive problem with badgers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should read this weeks farmers guardian and be horrified by the amount of cattle culled because of bovine TB all down to fecking brocks

 

Bovine TB has been ' endemic ' in the national herd,for a long time now, and im certainly not fully convinced at this stage,its all down to badgers..........

 

Google the thornbury experiment, the culled the badgers in that area, all of them! TB dropped to zero for around 10 years, then over time infected badgers returned and so did TB.

 

No coincidence there!

 

The only reason badgers got protection in the first place is dickheads digging and then baiting with them! So thank those guys for the protection.

 

TB was also at a much lower level before they were protected because people controlled them, there is no real reason why they shouldn't be returned to the open general licence to be shot with a closed season from jan to may. That way they will be controlled and TB levels will decrease as in TB hotspots they will be removed by a large number of people and numbers will be kept in touch.

 

Ground nesting birds, hedgehogs, bumblebees etc will also increase with less predation, win win i say.

 

Doubt the furry twat brian may and his bumchum gavin grant will oppose any badger removals though.

 

Not so sure about how much predation badgers have on wildlife but certainly understand the need for a controlled cull in certain areas.

[ratattack 111]

They nail every bumblebee and wasp nest they find, they eat eggs and chicks of ground nesting birds etc etc etc. They are a significant predator, they dont just eat worms and slugs. Not to mention crop damage they do! I've seen huge areas of wheat and maize especially trashed by billies, they will often move into a sett made on the edge of maize fields so they dont have to travel far. They are worse than rabbits at times!

[earth-thrower 493]

 

 

 

I know this is a topical subject but I have been having a massive problem with pigs on the golf courses that I deal with ie. digging up the courses looking for the shafer grubs. the problem that I have is that I can deal with the moles but the pigs are making one hell of a mess.Don`t you think that there is a time when enough is enough and the time has come when the problem of the of the Badger has to be dealt with?.is there to much pussy footing around where Badgers are concerned?foot and mouth! do we need that again?Our jobs would be on the line if this nasty disease would ever surface again.why do we have to put up with the majority when the majority dont understand what goes on in the real countryside.This is a question that I would probably expect a lot of answers or questions I don`t really know, but i hope that we can get a good and reasonable argument as to what we ( the people of the countryside and the ones that know best ) should do next. Are we being forced into a corner or are we being slowly crushed so that we don`t have a voice?I think that it is about time that the countryside stood up and started to battle against the masses that are drowning the great countryside that we have left.we now have a massive problem with Badgers?

 

 

 

we now have a massive problem with badgers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should read this weeks farmers guardian and be horrified by the amount of cattle culled because of bovine TB all down to fecking brocks

 

Bovine TB has been ' endemic ' in the national herd,for a long time now, and im certainly not fully convinced at this stage,its all down to badgers..........

 

Google the thornbury experiment, the culled the badgers in that area, all of them! TB dropped to zero for around 10 years, then over time infected badgers returned and so did TB.

 

No coincidence there!

 

The only reason badgers got protection in the first place is dickheads digging and then baiting with them! So thank those guys for the protection.

 

TB was also at a much lower level before they were protected because people controlled them, there is no real reason why they shouldn't be returned to the open general licence to be shot with a closed season from jan to may. That way they will be controlled and TB levels will decrease as in TB hotspots they will be removed by a large number of people and numbers will be kept in touch.

 

Ground nesting birds, hedgehogs, bumblebees etc will also increase with less predation, win win i say.

 

Doubt the furry twat brian may and his bumchum gavin grant will oppose any badger removals though

Even if you managed to kill every badger in a TB hotspot,you still have to tackle TB in the cows themselves..............Thousands of badgers have been culled ,over the years in these "trials",yet the majority tested afterwards were TB free..............Look at Eire, since the 80s ( i think) badgers have been snared exstensively,with the population greatly reduced over most counties.In the "four counties" experiment alone, they have virtually wiped them out, and yet tb STILL persists in the cattle there.....................

[Matt 160]

Like Ratattack, I have some experience of this issue.

 

You have to remember that we have the most strict pre-movement controls and testing regime in the world for cattle. We test and remove diseased cattle, and leave the primary host for the disease in place on farms.

 

Badgers carry the disease, and are also very resilient to it. They tend to get it in the lungs and throat, and thereby spread it easily through urine and sputum It takes on average, two years for a badger to actually die from the disease; in that time, they spread the bacteria far and wide thereby infecting not just cattle, but also deer and other species.

 

The issue over predation of other species by badgers was carefully investigated during the RBCT (Randomised Badger Culling Trials, or 'Krebs trials') and where high population densities of hedgehogs were found in the proactive culling areas, post culling of badgers, the hedgehogs started to recover (surprise, surprise!).

 

There is no doubt that the badger has a place in our ecosystem, the problem is that in some parts of the country (like Devon and Cornwall) they now outnumber other species and are causing huge amounts of damage, and harbouring a disease that last year accounted for 38,000 cattle.

 

It must be heartbreaking to see your cattle killed time after time while the badgers remain on the farm and cannot be touched.

 

While to any sane countryman it makes no sense to offer such extensive protection to an animal so numerous, I think the idea of badgers ever being added to the quarry list is a non-starter. There's no public appetite for a controlled cull of them, never mind a free for all.

 

The threats on Twitter and elsewhere continue; quite recently one of the antis said he was 'loading the shotgun up to visit me'. Blah, blah, blah.... bring it on.