Russ1986 1 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 i have been on this forum for just a short time but i have got some very good information about the do's and dont's of making my own night vision. so i have been searching on ebay for the parts needed but struggling to find a lamp/torch to do the job of distance. so far i have ordered the following 230819766350 a battry. 261076609645 the screen 360246543274 the lens 280933990746 the camera. now afetr i bought it i never really noticed at the time but its 0.1 lux so how good would this be for distance i will probably need a very good ir laser to get a good picture? i also thought about trying this out as its not too expensive.251009557452 i would love to get a hold of a watec 902h camera but at tis point and time i would rather just get some sort of nightvision made first then upgrade the camera. can anyone fill me in on some more details. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shergar 42 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) aye up russ1986 check out this thread , based my nv set up on this and works well, i am also looking to up grade to a watec i used this ir illuminator a bit on the heavy side looking to make a other body to lighten the load as for my camera is a 1/3 ccd sony chip , seeing eye shine at 150-200 yards shooting at 100-120 max if conditions are good http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/253321-my-home-made-nv-set-up/ shergar Edited April 18, 2013 by shergar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scramble Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Guy's if your going to buy a watec 902h then take the plunge and do it now, they're only going up in price and will continue to rise as the second hand stocks out there will run out/slow down at some point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest scramble Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 laser's can give a dirty image, you'll get cleaner results using an IR LED like the oslon black 850nm. What distance's are you looking to shoot at? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shergar 42 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 where would you buy one from ? ebay or an other source shergar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Hey shergar i have been looking at that post also and will be looking to have one as clean on the gun as that. And thanks for that adive scramble i will kepp that in mind. I am just looking to keep the costs down for the first model to make sure i can make it work. Then the mk2 will be an all singing model no holding back. Am not the best with electronics but hopefully will be good. The reason i have decided to make one is because the guybi usually go out lamping with bought a ns200 only had it 4 days and put it back for the money he paid (£600) we felt we could make one that had a better picture quality and more range we were only getting like 60-90 yards with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Also how far do you think the olson ir led would be good for?? I have ordered the ir filter for my roof mounted 170 lightforce see how that goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Midgard 0 Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 i have been on this forum for just a short time but i have got some very good information about the do's and dont's of making my own night vision. so i have been searching on ebay for the parts needed but struggling to find a lamp/torch to do the job of distance. so far i have ordered the following 230819766350 a battry. 261076609645 the screen 360246543274 the lens 280933990746 the camera. now afetr i bought it i never really noticed at the time but its 0.1 lux so how good would this be for distance i will probably need a very good ir laser to get a good picture? i also thought about trying this out as its not too expensive.251009557452 i would love to get a hold of a watec 902h camera but at tis point and time i would rather just get some sort of nightvision made first then upgrade the camera. can anyone fill me in on some more details. Hi Russ, the camera you ordered on ebay is one with a Super HAD CCD II Chip. But i think the better Chip for Night Vision ist Sony EXview HAD II Chip. Should be 2x more sensitive for IR. I use this one from Camera2000 and it works great. www.camera2000.com/de/effio-s-4130-dsp-700tvl-sony-960h-ccd-board-camera-with-osd-menu.html Jörg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mouseman1 1 Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 One day too late..... Hi all, Also starting to build a NV set up, been looking through various sites, lots of very good info out there. Slowly getting a shopping list together. finally ordered a lot of bits from all over the place.... 12v battery, 3.5" monitor, torch, led, driver, all the usual bits. Looked at loads of cameras, but couldn't justify £150+ on a watec camera, so ordered a sony effio e. £25 from fleabay...looked good at the time....might be a mistake. I know you pays your money you takes your choice. Wish I'd seen the above post... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 i have been on this forum for just a short time but i have got some very good information about the do's and dont's of making my own night vision. so i have been searching on ebay for the parts needed but struggling to find a lamp/torch to do the job of distance. so far i have ordered the following 230819766350 a battry. 261076609645 the screen 360246543274 the lens 280933990746 the camera. now afetr i bought it i never really noticed at the time but its 0.1 lux so how good would this be for distance i will probably need a very good ir laser to get a good picture? i also thought about trying this out as its not too expensive.251009557452 i would love to get a hold of a watec 902h camera but at tis point and time i would rather just get some sort of nightvision made first then upgrade the camera. can anyone fill me in on some more details. Hi Russ, the camera you ordered on ebay is one with a Super HAD CCD II Chip. But i think the better Chip for Night Vision ist Sony EXview HAD II Chip. Should be 2x more sensitive for IR. I use this one from Camera2000 and it works great. www.camera2000.com/de/effio-s-4130-dsp-700tvl-sony-960h-ccd-board-camera-with-osd-menu.html Jörg thanks very much for your help after i had a good look around the information and on here in some chats i see that the 0.1 lux this camera has is not very good. thanks for pointing it out to me tho or i would have been a bit stumped as to why its not working great i plan to use this camera anyway as it arrived on monday so i will use it to build the prototype and them change a few bits am sure to make it better the camera will be the first to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Midgard 0 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 i have been on this forum for just a short time but i have got some very good information about the do's and dont's of making my own night vision. so i have been searching on ebay for the parts needed but struggling to find a lamp/torch to do the job of distance. so far i have ordered the following 230819766350 a battry. 261076609645 the screen 360246543274 the lens 280933990746 the camera. now afetr i bought it i never really noticed at the time but its 0.1 lux so how good would this be for distance i will probably need a very good ir laser to get a good picture? i also thought about trying this out as its not too expensive.251009557452 i would love to get a hold of a watec 902h camera but at tis point and time i would rather just get some sort of nightvision made first then upgrade the camera. can anyone fill me in on some more details. Hi Russ, the camera you ordered on ebay is one with a Super HAD CCD II Chip. But i think the better Chip for Night Vision ist Sony EXview HAD II Chip. Should be 2x more sensitive for IR. I use this one from Camera2000 and it works great. www.camera2000.com/de/effio-s-4130-dsp-700tvl-sony-960h-ccd-board-camera-with-osd-menu.html Jörg thanks very much for your help after i had a good look around the information and on here in some chats i see that the 0.1 lux this camera has is not very good. thanks for pointing it out to me tho or i would have been a bit stumped as to why its not working great i plan to use this camera anyway as it arrived on monday so i will use it to build the prototype and them change a few bits am sure to make it better the camera will be the first to go. Hi Russ, my first try to build my Night Vision was very suboptimal so i know about the problems to find the right configuration. Once i found the cam ( with Exview Chip ) the next problem was the lens. Most of the borad-camers are using the MTV Mount. But i want to do it with CS Mount - for me they look more more translucent as the smaller MTV one´s, because of the bigger diameter. The very important thing is - must be suitable for IR. Here the one i´m using: http://www.camera2000.com/en/f1-2-12mm-cs-mount-cctv-security-camera-lens.html you can also use the same with 16mm focal length. Most of the board cameras have a digital zoom, and with only a little clicks zoom function you have full sreen on display when using 12mm lens. Next week i´ll upload some picture. Jörg P.S Sorry for my poor english P.P.S good information on you tube: http://www.youtube.com/user/RolaidsBench?feature= Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 i have been on this forum for just a short time but i have got some very good information about the do's and dont's of making my own night vision. so i have been searching on ebay for the parts needed but struggling to find a lamp/torch to do the job of distance. so far i have ordered the following 230819766350 a battry. 261076609645 the screen 360246543274 the lens 280933990746 the camera. now afetr i bought it i never really noticed at the time but its 0.1 lux so how good would this be for distance i will probably need a very good ir laser to get a good picture? i also thought about trying this out as its not too expensive. 251009557452 i would love to get a hold of a watec 902h camera but at tis point and time i would rather just get some sort of nightvision made first then upgrade the camera. can anyone fill me in on some more details. Hi Russ, the camera you ordered on ebay is one with a Super HAD CCD II Chip. But i think the better Chip for Night Vision ist Sony EXview HAD II Chip. Should be 2x more sensitive for IR. I use this one from Camera2000 and it works great. www.camera2000.com/de/effio-s-4130-dsp-700tvl-sony-960h-ccd-board-camera-with-osd-menu.html Jörg thanks very much for your help after i had a good look around the information and on here in some chats i see that the 0.1 lux this camera has is not very good. thanks for pointing it out to me tho or i would have been a bit stumped as to why its not working great i plan to use this camera anyway as it arrived on monday so i will use it to build the prototype and them change a few bits am sure to make it better the camera will be the first to go. Hi Russ, my first try to build my Night Vision was very suboptimal so i know about the problems to find the right configuration. Once i found the cam ( with Exview Chip ) the next problem was the lens. Most of the borad-camers are using the MTV Mount. But i want to do it with CS Mount - for me they look more more translucent as the smaller MTV one´s, because of the bigger diameter. The very important thing is - must be suitable for IR. Here the one i´m using: http://www.camera2000.com/en/f1-2-12mm-cs-mount-cctv-security-camera-lens.html you can also use the same with 16mm focal length. Most of the board cameras have a digital zoom, and with only a little clicks zoom function you have full sreen on display when using 12mm lens. Next week i´ll upload some picture. Jörg P.S Sorry for my poor english I have built my nv using the above stuff for just now but i cant seem to get any distance am only getting 10ft or so even through my scope. Oh and also i am using a nm800ir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I have built my nv using the above stuff for just now but i cant seem to get any distance am only getting 10ft or so even through my scope. Oh and also i am using a nm800ir Not the stuff u have spoken about but the stuff i have on my first post. Still getting to grips with this forum copying quotes etc sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weebster 17 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Is this the cam http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280933990746?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D280933990746%26_rdc%3D1 You'll probably have to mess with the on screen display settings,more trouble then they are worth those osd cam's,some seem to work very good while others are shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russ1986 1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Yes thats it. Ooo thats not good any idea what i should buy instead?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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