Question On Animal Rescues

[neems 2,406]

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

[TOPPER 1,809]

they should all be done under the animal welfare act for butchering heathy animals most are just a bunch of bunny huggin twat s go and ask them if you can adopt a dog for earthwork see what they say or a bullcross for pulling deer

[neems 2,406]

they should all be done under the animal welfare act for butchering heathy animals most are just a bunch of bunny huggin twat s go and ask them if you can adopt a dog for earthwork see what they say or a bullcross for pulling deer

 

 

I know they're all c*nts.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Every. Aniamal rescue center in this country has links to lacs.

Edited April 18, 2013 by gonetoearth

[neems 2,406]

Every. Aniamal rescue center in this country has links to lacs.

 

i don't support them in any way,but it would be cheaper for them.

 

forget about the animal rescue part,why is it not more common?

[neems 2,406]

could it just be insurance for the vets?

 

it leads to more health problems which is money in the bank for the vets.

 

a bit like them not giving live inoculations anymore,so you need to keep going back to them.

[hutch6 550]

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

I don't quite understand you here.

 

Most rescues DO neuter their animals to prevent people from adopting and breeding from them which results in more dogs in rescue and further complications through complicated birtsh which causes further stress to the dog which isn't needed. Rescues are full to bursting with dogs and many are sadly having to turn dogs away because they simply do not have the room for them.

 

Neutering a dog has NEVER produced a bad dog. It has not led to any behaviour that wasn't there to begin with. Some folks use it as an excuse to calm the dog down etc but I'd be interested to hear your evidence around psychological issues? There are physical issues of course as it is an intrusive operation but nothing major and the dog does not sit up all night fretting over it months down the line. I have all of my dogs neutered so no mistake on my part or the dog's part can lead to unwanted pups and it helps reduce the risk of various health issues later on in life.

[neems 2,406]

 

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

I don't quite understand you here.

 

Most rescues DO neuter their animals to prevent people from adopting and breeding from them which results in more dogs in rescue and further complications through complicated birtsh which causes further stress to the dog which isn't needed. Rescues are full to bursting with dogs and many are sadly having to turn dogs away because they simply do not have the room for them.

 

Neutering a dog has NEVER produced a bad dog. It has not led to any behaviour that wasn't there to begin with. Some folks use it as an excuse to calm the dog down etc but I'd be interested to hear your evidence around psychological issues? There are physical issues of course as it is an intrusive operation but nothing major and the dog does not sit up all night fretting over it months down the line. I have all of my dogs neutered so no mistake on my part or the dog's part can lead to unwanted pups and it helps reduce the risk of various health issues later on in life.

 

I've worked at large boarding kennels and seen dogs i've known for years,that have lived in good homes get neutered and become slightly nervous and anxious which has just spiraled out of control because it hasn't been picked up on.

 

not just once or twice,either.

 

that's not baring in mind the physical problems it brings.

 

testosterone is a hormone and has a very powerful effect on the mind and body,vasectomies stop the dog (or human) being able to breed but don't massively reduce this hormone causing all these problems.

[LaraCroft 863]

Vasectomy doesn't always stop the dog from looking for bitches in season.

Vasectomy still leaves the dog at risk of testicular cancer later in life, now pet dogs are living far far longer than nature initially intended.

 

On the balance of things, castrated dogs are generally easier to cope with ( from a female hunting point of view ) and the operation involved is barely any different if you castrate, than if you do a vasectomy - and I have done lots of both in dogs.

[neems 2,406]

Vasectomy doesn't always stop the dog from looking for bitches in season.

Vasectomy still leaves the dog at risk of testicular cancer later in life, now pet dogs are living far far longer than nature initially intended.

 

On the balance of things, castrated dogs are generally easier to cope with ( from a female hunting point of view ) and the operation involved is barely any different if you castrate, than if you do a vasectomy - and I have done lots of both in dogs.

 

yeah i've read these excuses,they don't wash with me.

 

if you can't stop a dog mounting random bitches,running off or pissing in the house you shouldn't have a dog at all,and that sort of person certainly imo couldn't be trusted to then look after and nurture a dog which has just had such a massive change made to their hormone levels.

 

as for the cancer argument,it's just silly imo.

 

you can get cancer in your eye,why not get one eye removed?

half the chances.

[chook1 184]

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

 

Probably because no vet will do a vas for a dog, they are not trained to do them - only ever trained to neuter, when I asked my vet to do my hob, he agreed to do it for me, but stated that he had never been trained to do one before on any type of animal. There is also no proof that neutering can cause a dog to go nervous or make an already nervous dog worse, my foster dog ( yes I do help out with rescue and no I'm not a bunny hugging lacs supporter and neither is the rescue) was very nervous when he arrived - nervous to the point of chewing himself to bits, he was neutered a couple of months before christmas and its certanaly not made him any worse, he doesn't chew himself anymore and except for getting stressed and reacting when meeting new dogs, he's totally relaxed and happy.

[hutch6 550]

 

 

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

I don't quite understand you here.

 

Most rescues DO neuter their animals to prevent people from adopting and breeding from them which results in more dogs in rescue and further complications through complicated birtsh which causes further stress to the dog which isn't needed. Rescues are full to bursting with dogs and many are sadly having to turn dogs away because they simply do not have the room for them.

 

Neutering a dog has NEVER produced a bad dog. It has not led to any behaviour that wasn't there to begin with. Some folks use it as an excuse to calm the dog down etc but I'd be interested to hear your evidence around psychological issues? There are physical issues of course as it is an intrusive operation but nothing major and the dog does not sit up all night fretting over it months down the line. I have all of my dogs neutered so no mistake on my part or the dog's part can lead to unwanted pups and it helps reduce the risk of various health issues later on in life.

 

I've worked at large boarding kennels and seen dogs i've known for years,that have lived in good homes get neutered and become slightly nervous and anxious which has just spiraled out of control because it hasn't been picked up on.

 

not just once or twice,either.

 

that's not baring in mind the physical problems it brings.

 

testosterone is a hormone and has a very powerful effect on the mind and body,vasectomies stop the dog (or human) being able to breed but don't massively reduce this hormone causing all these problems.

 

So these were full of life, not phased by anything and very confident dogs?

 

I've worked with loads of neutured dogs and only ones that were nervous to begin were nervous afterwards but with a bit of training they were right as rain in any situation.

 

What physical problems are your referring to?

[neems 2,406]

 

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

 

Probably because no vet will do a vas for a dog, they are not trained to do them - only ever trained to neuter, when I asked my vet to do my hob, he agreed to do it for me, but stated that he had never been trained to do one before on any type of animal. There is also no proof that neutering can cause a dog to go nervous or make an already nervous dog worse, my foster dog ( yes I do help out with rescue and no I'm not a bunny hugging lacs supporter and neither is the rescue) was very nervous when he arrived - nervous to the point of chewing himself to bits, he was neutered a couple of months before christmas and its certanaly not made him any worse, he doesn't chew himself anymore and except for getting stressed and reacting when meeting new dogs, he's totally relaxed and happy.

 

testosterone effects your brain as well as your body,its sole purpose is to help the male breed.

 

it will make them stronger

more stable

more confident

more positive

 

 

your dog probably had a very bad life until it met you and is happier now regardless,those qualities though probably won't develop as well as they would have if wasn't done.

[chook1 184]

He actually had a good life, but unfortunally with an elderly owner who didn't give him the socal/ life skills needed to cope in the world, neutering him hasn't changed this and I see lots of possitive changes in him daily.

 

This artical ( although american) may show why most vets don't do vas, its not much different to over hear.

http://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/vet-practice-news-columns/reality-check/the-trouble-with-pet-sterilization.aspx

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

Why don't rescues and vets vasectomies dogs?

 

Actually cutting their balls off is a bigger operation and sometimes leads to physical and psychological problems.

 

or do they?

 

I don't quite understand you here.

 

Most rescues DO neuter their animals to prevent people from adopting and breeding from them which results in more dogs in rescue and further complications through complicated birtsh which causes further stress to the dog which isn't needed. Rescues are full to bursting with dogs and many are sadly having to turn dogs away because they simply do not have the room for them.

 

Neutering a dog has NEVER produced a bad dog. It has not led to any behaviour that wasn't there to begin with. Some folks use it as an excuse to calm the dog down etc but I'd be interested to hear your evidence around psychological issues? There are physical issues of course as it is an intrusive operation but nothing major and the dog does not sit up all night fretting over it months down the line. I have all of my dogs neutered so no mistake on my part or the dog's part can lead to unwanted pups and it helps reduce the risk of various health issues later on in life.

 

I've worked at large boarding kennels and seen dogs i've known for years,that have lived in good homes get neutered and become slightly nervous and anxious which has just spiraled out of control because it hasn't been picked up on.

 

not just once or twice,either.

 

that's not baring in mind the physical problems it brings.

 

testosterone is a hormone and has a very powerful effect on the mind and body,vasectomies stop the dog (or human) being able to breed but don't massively reduce this hormone causing all these problems.

 

So these were full of life, not phased by anything and very confident dogs?

 

I've worked with loads of neutured dogs and only ones that were nervous to begin were nervous afterwards but with a bit of training they were right as rain in any situation.

 

What physical problems are your referring to?

 

yes good healthy dogs,that had decent homes.

 

I won't go into detail,but 1 that sticks out in my mind went from nice a stable dog at 7 years to killing the dog it was brought up with biting its owner and getting put down within about 2 months of being done.

 

but most just became slightly less confident and nervous,where before they'd walk past an aggressive barking dog in it's kennel not giving it a second glance,now they'd look terrified and would try to run away,some would then become aggressive back which led to yet more problems.

 

there was a much better article ,but i can't find it

http://www.caninesports.com/uploads/1/5/3/1/15319800/spay_neuter_considerations_2013.pdf

 

no doubt a good owner would get around these problems easy enough.