rimmer 33 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I shoot .22lr and 223, Which i have been shooting for years in both 5.56 and 223 format. i have never considered the Hornet as an inbetween round or even a replacement for the 223. Following the on from the topic regarding the .22wmr + .17hmr mentioned in other threads,I would be very interested in hearing some views on the virtues of the Hornet in comparison to the 223. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 The main difference,pal is the economy of the hornet(assuming reloading)over the .223 even at max charge the .22 hornet only uses around 12 gns of powder,as apposed to the 25 ish of the .223 obviously your .223 will give you extra range over the hornet,but it is quite capable of shooting foxes cleanly out to 200yds,and where it really shines is if you are using it on rabbits,crows ect but as said many times before the way to get the best out of the hornet is to reload it,flare the neck of the case,and crimp the round,most people who use one love em. Quote Link to post
roe-buck 63 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Top class! all round vermin round! Edited April 18, 2013 by roe-buck Quote Link to post
rimmer 33 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 say you had both, "Pal", 22lr and 223 would you gat a hornet aswel, would you get rid of one and replace it with the hornet. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 No, the reason being,the .223 is deer legal,the hornet is not,(small deer obviously) the are a pretty similar round but the .223 has more power,hence more range,depends how much economy plays a part in your shooting,if it does and you are not bothered about deer then a hornet is a good choice. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Everyone comes at this in their own way and for their own reason, Rifles are tools to me, simple as and end of! I have Air, FAC Air, 2 x .22lr, HMR, WMR, .223, .243, .308 and an assortment of shotguns. If I need a tool to do a job I buy it, I don't have any need for a Hornet, either .17 or .22, because there is no quarry and no sites I have that fall in it's power/range BETTER than any rifle/ammo that I already have. I have often thought there is a big gap in power between my WMR and .223 (around 1000ft lb gap) but this has NEVER been a problem on any site after any quarry, I have simply never been in a situation where I thought...a Hornet would be ideal here! As a one gun show the Hornet has some virtues and is potentially useful for some, but like I say, what do I need it for, the answer is, nothing with what I already have! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I shoot .22lr and 223, Which i have been shooting for years in both 5.56 and 223 format. i have never considered the Hornet as an inbetween round or even a replacement for the 223. Following the on from the topic regarding the .22wmr + .17hmr mentioned in other threads,I would be very interested in hearing some views on the virtues of the Hornet in comparison to the 223. The Hornet is an in between round between your .22 lr .223, it definitely isn't a .223 replacement. Are you happy with what you have, what do you want to do that you can't achieve with your .22lr and .223? Do you have deer on the agenda? Something to think about, get rid of the .223, buy a Hornet and a .243, but it obviously depends on your land and quarry (and bank balance), the .243 is the best Long range Fox calibre you will find, and all deer legal, for medium size and distance quarry the Hornet, then vermin and close the .22lr! For many people this will provide a first class tool box! Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Yep I can see that mate,your .223 will do everything a hornet will and more,the only thing is the hornet will be half as heavy on the powder,so I guess its down to how many bunnies/crows you intend to shoot,and of course some people like to be different (thank goodness). Quote Link to post
roe-buck 63 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 The Hornet is just such a sweet compact round,that definitely does what it says on the tin and maybe a bit more.But if your on the deer as well, due to the legal requirements, you'd have to opt for the .243 also .In England and Wales that is. Quote Link to post
rimmer 33 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Although i dont use my 223 for deer, i would never part with it as this calibre has been part of my shooting for more years than i would like to count, but i i sometimes think that a Hornet would cope with foxes when the 223 is off the menu and 22lr is just hard work, if you can understand that. i do reload so ammo is no problem. 243 is too much for my requirements and although i have fired thousands of 7.62, 308, and 9mm i must admit that i have never fired a 243, i do think that as it is just a necked down 7.62 it would be far too noisy even moderated. Quote Link to post
shootlodge 145 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 depends how far your comfort zone on shooting the target is. hornet cal 50/200yds good, 223cal 100-300 + good. after that they tend to drop off quite quick. Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hi mate , i have all three .22lr .22k hornet and .223. If the time ever came to own 1 rifle it would be the hornet--- sweet underated round LD 1 Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hi mate , i have all three .22lr .22k hornet and .223. If the time ever came to own 1 rifle it would be the hornet--- sweet underated round LD I've recently posted about problems with accuracy with my .17 hmr. That will no doubt get sorted. If it isn't already after giving the barrel a good clean with a new cleaning rod kit and Hoppes products.... Getting to the point. Accuracy sorted, i've still gone off the round as it is so affected by a wind. I know it's good practice to learn to deal with the wind, but that still doesn't stop me losing interest in it due to this reason. Hence, I've started reading up on the .22 Hornet and it's use on a regular basis. Reloading will be the way i go, as i already reload my .204 Ruger. I've read the Hornet is very cheap to run. But just how cheap per round is it, while re-using the same brass?? Quote Link to post
cragman 2,763 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 I have a 22 Hornet and a 223 on my ticket but only actually own a Hornet at the moment. The Hornet serves the purpose very well and I've had no need yet to get a 223. I think I would need someone to mentor me with using the 223 as I've not had much experience of shooting one. I'd need to get my head around the extra distance and power on offer from the 223. The Hornet is on a open ticket as opposed to a closed for the 223, so I can get to use it on smaller land permissions where certain vermin need controlling. Cracking round Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) No, the reason being,the .223 is deer legal,the hornet is not,(small deer obviously) In Scotland for Roe but then only provided bullet exceeds 50 grains + 1,000 ft/lbs energy + 2,450ft per second.. In England and Wales min calibre is .240 with 1,700 ft/lbs energy. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/54/schedule/2 Worth pointing out as you don't want to get caught out. Edited May 24, 2013 by Alsone Quote Link to post
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