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As a youth in rural Wales,.I was brought up with Sheepdog/Curs,..mutts and sundry grass vergers,..and we caught, what we caught, by dint of carefully placed nets, snares, canny old jukels, and frequen

The truth is there are still plenty of Deerhoundy lurchers about,some owners never went down the route of needing to compete with all and sundry as a reason to own and run a dog.A saluki hybrid is a f

here is a an old pick of a bitch my dad had in the 80s, she was a fast bitch and killed a lot of game in her life round were we lived but did not run well on the fen she was to fast for the gound and

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No fancy lines here or world beaters. Not like you mate seems everydog youvtalk of was something special beddy whippets/ deerhounds/ minshaws haha you got no standards by the sounds of it. Easily pleased. Go on you admit it haha

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The deerhound of the today is not the deerhound of the past. "One of the most precarious times in the breed’s history seems to have been at the beginning of the nineteenth century, when many of the large Scottish estates were split into small estates for sporting purposes, and few then kept Deerhounds for hunting deer. The new fashion was for stalking and shooting, which required only a tracking dog to follow the line of a wounded animal, and for which purpose a collie or similar breed was found to be more suitable, being more biddable and with better scenting abilities. Although a few estates still employed Deerhounds for their original work, on most estates they became obsolete and the breed was left in the hands of a few enthusiasts. Vitality was low and various outcrosses were used to improve size and vigour. One of the most famous ‘Deerhounds’. Sir Walter Scott’s Maida, was actually sired by a Pyrenean out of a Deerhound Bitch. He had a lot of white in his coat, but improved size and substance in his offspring. Bloodhounds were sometimes used to improve scenting ability for tracking wounded game and Borzoi to improve quality and grace of movement."

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One of the most precarious times in the breed’s history seems to have been at the beginning of the nineteenth century, when many of the large Scottish estates were split into small estates for sporting purposes, and few then kept Deerhounds for hunting deer. The new fashion was for stalking and shooting, which required only a tracking dog to follow the line of a wounded animal, and for which purpose a collie or similar breed was found to be more suitable, being more biddable and with better scenting abilities. Although a few estates still employed Deerhounds for their original work, on most estates they became obsolete and the breed was left in the hands of a few enthusiasts. Vitality was low and various outcrosses were used to improve size and vigour. One of the most famous ‘Deerhounds’. Sir Walter Scott’s Maida, was actually sired by a Pyrenean out of a Deerhound Bitch. He had a lot of white in his coat, but improved size and substance in his offspring. Bloodhounds were sometimes used to improve scenting ability for tracking wounded game and Borzoi to improve quality and grace of movement.

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Great post Chalks... I would never have ever contemplated Saluki in a lamp dog but my views on the hybrids have changed too and as you said, the Deerhound cross could be improved upon but as Inan put, they have fell out of favour, so who would pick up that mantle...??

 

just noticed this post and was talking to a mate about lack of deerhound Xs there is locally and i had said that i was thinkng about starting my own line of deerhound x greyhounds, i have always had a great admiration for the X and think they make such a handy tool round these parts, so maybe in 10-15 years time i,ll be able to say i was up to this mantle :thumbs:

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I wouldent look anyware else than SCOTLAND myself some people just don't own a computer some are that old they can't txt some are pure well

On paper lol no DNA 10 years ago

People tend to forget that the Deerhound was a Scottish hound to run the open moors and deal with large,fast and quarry little else could come to terms with,sadly id be dubious about any so called pure blood being able to do a quarter of what the original took as the norm.

 

Now i will stand corrected but i believe the deerhound was bred to deal with injured quarry, mainly red deer that had been shot and injured by the early guns of the time which were very inaccurate.

I was actually having a cup of tea with a guy who slipped and judged deerhounds for a few years back in the day. They caught very, very few hares and the ones that did were usually the smaller type of bitches. This was doubled-up too.....

 

The Deerhound was a true coursing hound several centuries before the invention of gunpowder. the introduction of the sporting rifle and developement of deer stalking on the Scottish estates was the beginning of the decline for the Deerhound, as the breed then indeed was used for tracking or pulling down wounded deer. The Deerhound or Celtic greyhound has its roots way back, the Roman comentator Tacitus remarked that the large swift coursing hounds of Britain were very good and one of the most exportable goods produced here at the time and they were sent all over the empire. The same hounds sometimes called greyhounds in England were hunted in the royal forests from tbe time of the Saxons and Vikings right thru to the invention of firarms and the writings of the time state they could be rough or smooth coated, a sure sign they were bred to do a job not look pretty. By the middle ages coursing as a sport rather than just a way of providing meat, meant that some became specialized hare dogs (greyhounds) and some deer dogs (deerhounds) before that they were the same breed breed or type, just running dogs like the lurchers of today all coats and sizes. The show breeders took this proud history and took a great big dump on it. Still useful deerhound blooded dogs about, folk just need to forget about breed purity and breed good deerhoundy type to another.

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