Cupid Stunt 18 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 if i get to the try outs, im gonna be a right c**t to them!..."Yeah, im English, and i come 'er to kick the f**k outta some Yanks!...You gotta problem [bANNED TEXT] that mate!?"..lol... They have already had Bisping though. Maybe you should dress & prance around like Eubank, that will get you noticed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Royston2 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I`ll look forward to bisping actually getting tested Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I've just read that BJ Penn will fight Diego Sanchez on the Couture/Gonzalez undercard. I hope Penn demolishes Sanchez Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I hope Penn demolishes Sanchez You and me both Si,...i cant stand that f*****g twat...he's always thanks Jesus for his wins and shit...f**k that...was he in the Gym, busting his balls with yah, or did he feel it when you at ethat big over hand right!?..did he f**k!..lol. I hope BJ kills that guy man,... I agree with Royst about Bisping...imo, if he ever fights anyone with hands (not even heavy hands, just fast and accurate) he will get tagged and get KO'ed...imo, his chin is WAY suspect. Kye,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted August 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Your right about Sanchez Jay, such an ego, it was good to watch Koscheck dominate him He has nethier the stand up or BJJ to match Penn. I think there are some good light heavyweights at the moment, I'd like to see Bisping fight someone of the quality of Griffin/Jardine/Ortiz, that would be a real test The upcoming Liddell/Jardine fight should be a good one, I can see an upset and Jardine winning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Been reading this thread with interest and have agreed with most of whats been written so didnt feel much need to comment until a few points stood out...michael bispings chin is way supsect ??? believe me ive seen bisping hit hard and he can take a good shot,just because he hasnt been banged about in the ufc doesnt mean he hasnt been severely tested before this...a clean hard shot is a clean hard shot,just because it wasnt by a ufc fighter doesnt make it any less of a hard shot ! I hope he does well he is an honest fighter who puts everything he has into the sport and has done everything asked of him so far. kye...the comments you made about diego sanchez i find strange coming from somebody who competes himself...i am fully aware of the respect between lads who compete,whether they know each other or not i have never heard a quote like " i hope he kills that guy man "....i know you probably only meant it in jest but it just surprised me to hear somebody who competes themself talk like that...i respect any man who has the guts to step in the ring/cage and as much as i would like to win i certainly wouldnt want to seriously injure any man...my apologies if this seems like im being a prick,im not...i just feel that kind of talk demeans combat sports...you have a yank flag by your name which may explain it ..also,if the man wants to thank jesus thats his buiseness,you shouldnt knock any mans values when it comes to god !..like ive said,no offence to you just your comments surprised me thats all. as for bj penn- sanchez i would expect penn to win that one,if he could get his cardio right i feel he is one of the most complete and dangerous fighters on the circuit....liddel - jardine i think if liddel still has the same hunger it will be a quick knockout in his favour i dont think jardine is quick enough to keep away standing up or technically good enough to take him down....but i might be wrong....i think this will randys last contest as well...i can see him taking a painful loss but i hope to be wrong on that one. Edited August 8, 2007 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 No Offence taken Gnasher,.. Firstly, the yank flag is for the country i LIVE in,...thats what i thought they was there for?...im VERY proud to be English, its just a shame the Goverment back home prefer money grubing, illegal aliens, to the indigenous peoples of our island...im proud to be English, just totaly ashamed of the people that run it. When i say "I want Joe Blogs to kill Joe Smith"...of course im NOT serious...i have the upmost respect for any athlete that competes at any level, not just fighters....i thought that was a given, obvious kinda thing?...who the hell would want someone to die in a fight?...the only time i would want that, would be if some sick f****r broke into a guys house and was after his wife/kids or even dogs!...if he gets some leather and dies, thats his problem, once you cross a mans threashhold, be it his house, or family he deserves it.. IMO, Bisping DOES have a suspect chin,...when he got caught buy Ross Pointon in the TUF series, he had to run across the cage and shake his head, then re-engage... When he fought Elvis Sinosect, the Aussie (who does NOT have heavy hands at all) he beat the piss outta Elvis the whole first round,...then in the second he got clipped and his arse hit the cage floor fairly quick...the shot didnt look to hard to me, but of course you cant judge, just buy looking at it on TV!..lol. Bisping is a VERY good fighter,..i hope he continues to do well...but what you have to understand is that he is THE poster child for the UFC in Europe, so to think that Dana is gonna set him up to be fully tested anytime soon is silly...imo. If you wanna see someone with a GREAT chin (but he is NOT a great MMA fighter!) you should watch Wesley "Cabbage" Carrera...that guy takes a beating, he dont even cut easy!...if that man could fight good, he would be an animal!... As for the comments about God, and all that other stuff...i judge NO man,...i am just a normal guy, following a dream, that may or maynot turn out good!..lol...i have NO right (or no more than anyone else) to say what is right or wrong...i just gave my opinion....i personally dont agree with ANY religion, mostly because it is the single biggest cause of loss of human life that there ever was...no offence ment, just as i see it.. All the best, i gotta go and eat!...yayyyy! Kye,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 If you wanna see someone with a GREAT chin (but he is NOT a great MMA fighter!) you should watch Wesley "Cabbage" Carrera...that guy takes a beating, he dont even cut easy!...if that man could fight good, he would be an animal!... Your right about Cabbages chin the guy takes a real beating and just absorbs it, he has a good hook but like you say, if he was as good at dishing it out he'd be amazing. He took so many hard shots in the fights with Slyvia and Arlovski......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) Fair comments you make Kye...cant say i agree with all of them but i get what your saying.....cant argue one bit about the government of our country,however i have enough pride in my country to stand by it and try and do whatever little there is we can do to change and improve it....my football team didnt do too well last year either but i havent suddenly become a man utd supporter !!...we all make our choices and i wish you and anyone else all the luck with the choices they make....but come on....would you have made a comment like " i hope he kills him man " before you was under the influence of yanks ? ...lets face it they do love a bit of hypetalk...like floyd mayweather saying for months before the fight he would stand toe to toe with delahoya,then spent the whole 12 rounds on the back foot ! mick bisping said the pressure he felt of fighting on that show was nothing compared to the pressure he felt inside the house to " trash talk " As for bispings chin,i think most would agree that when we talk of a fighter having a suspect chin it is because he is often in trouble...if bisping cant take a hard shot then he must have the best powers of recovery ever seen,both the situations you mentioned he was briefly caught with a shot,nothing more...and having been caught with that shot went on to quickly win the fight...you are right he is the poster child for ufc in europe...and because of this every move he makes and every clip he takes is scrutinized(this conversation being a good example)...when in reality can you ever imagine saying randy couture has a suspect chin ? no,but he has been caught/clipped and gone down plenty of times in all levels of competition....i think like most good prospects we like to try and pick holes in them and find their weak points,amir khan being another good example...but i personally dont think bispings chin is a weak point...time will tell. I guess your point about religion is pretty self explanatory,as you say its the biggest cause of loss to human life which shows how important it is to some,and maybe the reason it shouldnt be mocked....but we all have opinions and they dont always come out the same and if we didnt hear different opinions to our own we would never learn so i appreciate your thoughts and opinions and wish you luck in achieving your goals.All the best. Edited August 8, 2007 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Gnasher, im affraid i dont belave in reincarnation, or "another life, after death"...so im gonna try and live the life i DO have right now,...and im lucky enough that it didnt involve me having to live my whole life in a country where i am a second class citizen, and the life style i choose to lead (namely hunting and fighting) make me some kinda thug, or sicko...when im led on my death bed, im gonna be able to look back on my life, and one thing i WONT wonder is "What if I?"...i dont wanna wonder what would have happened, i wont to do it, and either succeed, or fail,...then i will know... If you had a chance, to start all over again, in a country of equal oppertunity, with laws that didnt make you a criminal for the life style you choose to lead, would you REALY not take it?...honestly?...maybe it makes me LESS of an Englishman, because maybe you see me as the rat thats fleeing the sinking ship?...well, i will go along with that, but this rat made it to greener pastures, while some of the more noble, braver rats drowned... Gnasher, its very noble that you think that you as one man can make a difference, but unless your SuperMan, i cant see it happening mate?... Ive already said i was being flippant when i said "I hope he kills him blah, blah, blah"...i wish no man, any harm, unless, as i have already stated, he has wronged me in a way that i feel he does need harm...maybe thats right, maybe thats wrong, thats upto the person... All im gonna say about Bisping, is that i truly wish the guy well in his carrer as a Pro Fighter,...he is a very talented fellah, and he could go far, and i hope he does...but in the near future, he dosnt have anything to worry about as far as opponents are concerned, regarding a Mis-match...imo. This is a good thread,...im not gonna say anything more about God or religion...to me its a waste of breath. Lets not ruin good fight talk though Gnasher, im sure your a good guy, so lets leave this thread for fight talk, about the fight game etc... If you wanna have a chat about anything else, just give us a shout via PM mate, because these forums quite easily 'snow-ball' and it all goes out the window!..lol.. All the best guys.. Kye,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 So Jay whats your opinion on the Liddell/Jardine fight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) Gnasher, im affraid i dont belave in reincarnation, or "another life, after death"...so im gonna try and live the life i DO have right now,...and im lucky enough that it didnt involve me having to live my whole life in a country where i am a second class citizen, and the life style i choose to lead (namely hunting and fighting) make me some kinda thug, or sicko...when im led on my death bed, im gonna be able to look back on my life, and one thing i WONT wonder is "What if I?"...i dont wanna wonder what would have happened, i wont to do it, and either succeed, or fail,...then i will know... If you had a chance, to start all over again, in a country of equal oppertunity, with laws that didnt make you a criminal for the life style you choose to lead, would you REALY not take it?...honestly?...maybe it makes me LESS of an Englishman, because maybe you see me as the rat thats fleeing the sinking ship?...well, i will go along with that, but this rat made it to greener pastures, while some of the more noble, braver rats drowned... Gnasher, its very noble that you think that you as one man can make a difference, but unless your SuperMan, i cant see it happening mate?... Just quickly....the above sounds a lot like " i love my country but my government failed me "...probably the most popular saying at the front of the queue at the immigration office ! You are no less of an englishman than me mate...but if you think im deserting my life long friends, family and values as an englishman rather than standing and defending whats mine then think again....and theres plenty of others who feel exactly the same..... England is down.......but certainly not out now back to fighting.............what weight do you fight at Kye just out of interest? Edited August 8, 2007 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Royston2 0 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Kye you talk bullshit and you deserted your family when times where hard lets get to the tuth mate your one selfish arsehole....Whens your next fight anyway he fights at 155 gnasher i think unless he has deserted that like he did england and his suffering family.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 lol@Royston,...if i had a brother that was worth staying in England for i would have stayed,..but the one i have is a twat, and keeps curs..lol... Hi Gnasher,.. I hope Britain can once again, in the near future get the 'Great' put back on the front of its name...it is a great country, but im sure you agree mate, the people running it are trouble... If i was in charge, i would let Wales, Ireland, England and Scotland all be independant..lol...save alot of hassel..lol. I have fought at 185lbs, 170lbs, 155lbs and 145lbs....im WAY to small to fight at 180lbs...i may fight again at 170lbs, but anywhere between 145-and 155lbs is a great weight for me...im strongest, pound for pound at 155lbs... Hi Si,.. Liddell Vs Jardine COULD be good...Jardine is probably stronger, but i feel Chucks un-orthadox style is VERY hard to deal with for MOST people (Rampage excluded..lol.) what people dont realise is just how good Chuck IS on the ground, because his take down defense is that good,...probably some of the best in the game right now....but for overall ability and as an allround fighter i would give it to Jardine...i do NOT see him winning though,...Chuck has way more exsperiance, and it will be hard for Jardine to surround himself with sparring partners that can fight like chuck...but remember, this IS mma,...anything can/will/does happen!...i think Jardine will have better cardio as well,..summat i think that Liddell can lack in some fights. Personnaly, i hope Jardine kills that mother f****r Chuck Liddell!...lol... ..........(Just kidding Gnasher!) All the best guys!.. Jay,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) Personnaly, i hope Jardine kills that mother f****r Chuck Liddell!...lol... ..........(Just kidding Gnasher!) All the best guys!.. Jay,.. clearly they have already got you talking like a yank...have they got you into the " if it aint nailed down,eat it " mentality yet ? obviously not if you can still get down to 155 Best of luck to you mate....hopefully you,ll be knocking on sean sherks door soon,rather you than me Edited August 9, 2007 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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