Cut Backs ,and Thatchers Funeral

[twobob 1,497]

Reading about some of the horrifying conditions these pit fellas worked in and all the deaths/illness etc you would think folk would be happy to see the back of them !.....................Im not clued up on miners or politics so i dont have strong opinions but i think it shows folks true ignorance of a subject when they think because they have studied the history or read a book and got second hand info that somehow qualifies them to think their opinion is equal to somebody who has lived and breathed the subject !

I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion.

i havnt studied it gnasher i lived it 1982 to 1992 9year underground and a year on strike i could take the selfish attitude that iam glad they shut as i got to work allover the country instead of going down the same hole everyday but i genuinely feel sorry for young lads in castleford because there is little else since the pits closed same as many ex mining towns,and its ok to say why dont they move/work away some do but its not for everyone same as working at heights i worked for a while on the pylons working with a scottish lad and he says what did you do before this bob worked down the pit i said fxck that he said it must of been dangerous i just laughed at him as i went down a hook ladderoff the end of the arm 100 odd foot in the air

[stewie 3,387]

 

Reading about some of the horrifying conditions these pit fellas worked in and all the deaths/illness etc you would think folk would be happy to see the back of them !.....................Im not clued up on miners or politics so i dont have strong opinions but i think it shows folks true ignorance of a subject when they think because they have studied the history or read a book and got second hand info that somehow qualifies them to think their opinion is equal to somebody who has lived and breathed the subject !

I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion.

i havnt studied it gnasher i lived it 1982 to 1992 9year underground and a year on strike i could take the selfish attitude that iam glad they shut as i got to work allover the country instead of going down the same hole everyday but i genuinely feel sorry for young lads in castleford because there is little else since the pits closed same as many ex mining towns,and its ok to say why dont they move/work away some do but its not for everyone same as working at heights i worked for a while on the pylons working with a scottish lad and he says what did you do before this bob worked down the pit i said fxck that he said it must of been dangerous i just laughed at him as i went down a hook ladderoff the end of the arm 100 odd foot in the air

good post.........

[roe-buck 63]

"I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion

". Well I can definitely tell you that"Pedwar" doesn't speak for the over whelming majority of people who lived through the strike in the South Wales valleys!Yes the enviroment was dirtier as to be expected when mining millions of tons of coal but i always caught trout and Eels out of the Sirhowy,Rhymney and Ebbw rivers in the area I live, even though the river was black with coal dust from the washeries!!The picture he paints of a filthy and disgusting place is not true!Yes certain parts were Black and mucky in and around the working collieries obviously but the Hill Farms, mountains, moors and forestry were just minutes from me.The Brecon Beacons always in sight on a clear day!! Also yes, you see'd the older guys around holding on the fence going for a walk because of "Dust" and respiritory problems due to the mines but you'd have a chin wag with em and a good dose of "Valleys Humour" which has always sustained the people here!The High Streets then were thriving then not like the almost Ghost towns some are now . There were alot of the older more traditional shops,Drapers, Butchers,Emporiums and local Welsh proprieters, not like to day!! and all doing well because the majority were working, earning a wage, underground , steelworks or the service industries for them!The majority here have nothing but contempt for Thatcher and her cronies.As I said we have long memories here!

Edited April 19, 2013 by roe-buck

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Ive been in atendance at the welsh hound show on many occasions there is allways a sing song. The songs the lads sing about mining and the rhonda Allways. Stick in my mind. Great. Place great people .

[gnasher16 30,274]

i havnt studied it gnasher i lived it 1982 to 1992 9year underground and a year on strike i could take the selfish attitude that iam glad they shut as i got to work allover the country instead of going down the same hole everyday but i genuinely feel sorry for young lads in castleford because there is little else since the pits closed same as many ex mining towns,and its ok to say why dont they move/work away some do but its not for everyone

Fair do,s mate then your opinion holds value and is certainly worth listening to........ If its a toss up between taking advice on fishing from a painter and decorator or an ex fisherman its not a difficult decision who you listen to is it .................Thats my point

Edited April 19, 2013 by gnasher16

[socks 32,253]

"I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion

". Well I can definitely tell you that"Pedwar" doesn't speak for the over whelming majority of people who lived through the strike in the South Wales valleys!Yes the enviroment was dirtier as to be expected when mining millions of tons of coal but i always caught trout and Eels out of the Sirhowy,Rhymney and Ebbw rivers in the area I live, even though the river was black with coal dust from the washeries!!The picture he paints of a filthy and disgusting place is not true!Yes certain parts were Black and mucky in and around the working collieries obviously but the Hill Farms, mountains, moors and forestry were just minutes from me.The Brecon Beacons always in sight on a clear day!! Also yes, you see'd the older guys around holding on the fence going for a walk because of "Dust" and respiritory problems due to the mines but you'd have a chin wag with em and a good dose of "Valleys Humour" which has always sustained the people here!The High Streets then were thriving then not like the almost Ghost towns some are now . There were alot of the older more traditional shops,Drapers, Butchers,Emporiums and local Welsh proprieters, not like to day!! and all doing well because the majority were working, earning a wage, underground , steelworks or the service industries for them!The majority here have nothing but contempt for Thatcher and her cronies.As I said we have long memories here!

AMEN fella well said ... It was exactly the same in the Swansea and Neath valleys where I was brought up ... The river tawe is one of the most prolific salmon rivers in Britain and the spring run is amazing ... If the rivers were that badly polluted then that would not happen ... My village and the surrounding ones lost everything ... Banks butchers corner shops barbers etc etc all closed and the villages are still like ghost towns ........

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

"I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion

". Well I can definitely tell you that"Pedwar" doesn't speak for the over whelming majority of people who lived through the strike in the South Wales valleys!Yes the enviroment was dirtier as to be expected when mining millions of tons of coal but i always caught trout and Eels out of the Sirhowy,Rhymney and Ebbw rivers in the area I live, even though the river was black with coal dust from the washeries!!The picture he paints of a filthy and disgusting place is not true!Yes certain parts were Black and mucky in and around the working collieries obviously but the Hill Farms, mountains, moors and forestry were just minutes from me.The Brecon Beacons always in sight on a clear day!! Also yes, you see'd the older guys around holding on the fence going for a walk because of "Dust" and respiritory problems due to the mines but you'd have a chin wag with em and a good dose of "Valleys Humour" which has always sustained the people here!The High Streets then were thriving then not like the almost Ghost towns some are now . There were alot of the older more traditional shops,Drapers, Butchers,Emporiums and local Welsh proprieters, not like to day!! and all doing well because the majority were working, earning a wage, underground , steelworks or the service industries for them!The majority here have nothing but contempt for Thatcher and her cronies.As I said we have long memories here!

 

Great post butt.

[socks 32,253]

I worked in the Gleision colliery ( where the lads got killed in 2011 ) and yes although it was a shit hole I was earning a wage .... the local community was getting good sensibly priced coal delivered and tipped into their bunkers ... A bonus if you are an oap .... Shops were still open pubs were full and it was a generally happy place to .... It all changed with maggies intervention ............

[brookie 1,193]

 

"I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion

". Well I can definitely tell you that"Pedwar" doesn't speak for the over whelming majority of people who lived through the strike in the South Wales valleys!Yes the enviroment was dirtier as to be expected when mining millions of tons of coal but i always caught trout and Eels out of the Sirhowy,Rhymney and Ebbw rivers in the area I live, even though the river was black with coal dust from the washeries!!The picture he paints of a filthy and disgusting place is not true!Yes certain parts were Black and mucky in and around the working collieries obviously but the Hill Farms, mountains, moors and forestry were just minutes from me.The Brecon Beacons always in sight on a clear day!! Also yes, you see'd the older guys around holding on the fence going for a walk because of "Dust" and respiritory problems due to the mines but you'd have a chin wag with em and a good dose of "Valleys Humour" which has always sustained the people here!The High Streets then were thriving then not like the almost Ghost towns some are now . There were alot of the older more traditional shops,Drapers, Butchers,Emporiums and local Welsh proprieters, not like to day!! and all doing well because the majority were working, earning a wage, underground , steelworks or the service industries for them!The majority here have nothing but contempt for Thatcher and her cronies.As I said we have long memories here!

best post on this thread .. ..thatcher destroyed that wales without a second thought for any one or thing ..

[pritch 335]

 

i havnt studied it gnasher i lived it 1982 to 1992 9year underground and a year on strike i could take the selfish attitude that iam glad they shut as i got to work allover the country instead of going down the same hole everyday but i genuinely feel sorry for young lads in castleford because there is little else since the pits closed same as many ex mining towns,and its ok to say why dont they move/work away some do but its not for everyone

Fair do,s mate then your opinion holds value and is certainly worth listening to........ If its a toss up between taking advice on fishing from a painter and decorator or an ex fisherman its not a difficult decision who you listen to is it .................Thats my point

gnash that only holds true if your asking how to catch a fish,that painter could walk down the river & see

the river is fooked,just as anyone can walk through some of them communities today 20 odd years later

& still see all the shops,pubs & near everything else shut down & nowt to replace it & they where that bad

pedwar left one pit to go to another when the 1st shut,the people who worked them new the risks most

had generations of family who'd worked the pits

[bigdaz 688]

Sweet Jesus, some of you guys have got it bad, marching to work singing songs, sounds like a scene from Snow White.

[scroat 62]

I worked in the Gleision colliery ( where the lads got killed in 2011 ) and yes although it was a shit hole I was earning a wage .... the local community was getting good sensibly priced coal delivered and tipped into their bunkers ... A bonus if you are an oap .... Shops were still open pubs were full and it was a generally happy place to .... It all changed with maggies intervention ............what way would you have stood if the army had of been brought in to face the people and you been in the army .would you hav obeyed orders of some jumped up over the top sandhurst type .or walkd to the othr side .just wondering like.

[WILF 47,353]

Sweet Jesus, some of you guys have got it bad, marching to work singing songs, sounds like a scene from Snow White.

Me and poor old Gnasher had to put up with Dick Van Dyke look-a-likes doing jaunty walk down the street in hobnail boots and turn ups singing " any old iron" every morning!

 

My mother would dress me in my top hat and tail coat that was patched with handkerchiefs and me and my 18 brothers and sisters would go out and sell pegs and steal pockets watches from rich gentlemen.

 

Lorks a mercy if a wily copper got you, it was off to the workhouse and no mistake !!

[roe-buck 63]

Sweet Jesus, some of you guys have got it bad, marching to work singing songs, sounds like a scene from Snow White.

Yes the Welsh like to sing,look at Tom Jones,Shirley Bassey Catherine Jenkins,Stereophonics,Manic Street Preachers etc Etc We're not called the "Land of Song" for nothing!

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

Sweet Jesus, some of you guys have got it bad, marching to work singing songs, sounds like a scene from Snow White.

Me and poor old Gnasher had to put up with Dick Van Dyke look-a-likes doing jaunty walk down the street in hobnail boots and turn ups singing " any old iron" every morning!

My mother would dress me in my top hat and tail coat that was patched with handkerchiefs and me and my 18 brothers and sisters would go out and sell pegs and steal pockets watches from rich gentlemen.

Lorks a mercy if a wily copper got you, it was off to the workhouse and no mistake !!

. Yove. Gota pick a pocket or two boys you gota pick ah pocket or two , Lol. Me old garden gate !!!!!!