Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 One thing I cannot fathom out is why the need for privatisation? ..... we could have the companies still in state hands, paying the same wages charging the same rates. yet the profits would go to the state bringing very much needed income for the government ..... Instead the profits go to wealthy individual share holders, with the minimum investment in the infrastructure of the utilities. And what positions, in society, do these " wealthy individual share holders " tend to hold, T? Can you not see how your answer lies in your own question? So sorry, the question was rhetorical! I took it as read that people would see that. MY bad. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 dont know about maggie,but i really could go a Mcflurry right now lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Sorry, TC. I'd been trying to read from about halfway through this thread, I guess? Thus I'd already read some stuff that was so much bollocks that my eyes were indeed clouding over. My mind shutting down. After some of the obviously deeply held views I've read here, I missed the intended irony of your own post. I think we're actually reading from the same page here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pritch 335 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you hated her politics thats one thing, if you were affected by her policies then i have some sympathy I am not going to do the Monty Python 4 Yorkshireman sketch but I was brought up in a very poor council area and her policies did affect my whole family more than half of which were working in the steel mills throughout this time. The difference between myself and some of the hateful things i have read is was always brought up to respect someone's death. I make no apology either for saying she led us out of probably the worst post war situation this country found itself in and led us away from the diatribe of what was then the union stranglehold of my country we were an absolute laughing stock to the rest of the world before this . Even I can see that if others can't then that's their opinion. I don't care whether you vote for tory or screaming lord such I find disrespecting a dead woman because of politics offensive to her children and grandchildren. respected for her children are you avin a f****n laugh one a reality show contestant & the other is an illegalarms dealer who was involved in trying to overthrow a government if it were your lad he'd be in the big house called a terrorist but coz of who his mam was he's sat in church wi the PM ffs if you can't see owt wrong in that your beyond help.there's a sayin round here "you can talk to a mon wi a wooden leg but not a wooden head That's just it, I used to have a wooden head and accepted what everyone else wanted me to think, before I learnt to think for myself. The facts are under Harold Wilson 290 coal mines were closed as compared to the 160 under Margret Thatcher but you dont get people calling Wilson an evil witch do you? In the last year of coal production before the strikes the subsidised British Coal industry lost £485 Million But hey let's not let the facts get in the way of a good witch hunt eh? Wooden head? so where are all the swathes of the population that that where laid waste under wilson so if your figures are correct you could shut near double the amount of pits with minimal impact on the surrounding communities,so if your right it kind of makes my argument she laid waste vast parts of the country out of spite & vindictiveness & with no thought to the parts of the community that indirectly relied on the wealth generated by the industries she scapped.if she was so f****n saintly why did her own party throw her aside like the piece of shit she was & why is her terrorist son allowed to walk the streets.at least she can have her xmas dinner with jimmy savell again this year eh.they won't need an oven where they both are 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaz 688 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Who remembers the front page headline when Kinnock and his cronies were at large. Britain, will the last person leaving please put the lights out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pritch 335 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 well obviously not you as kinnock was never PM 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Who remembers the front page headline when Kinnock and his cronies were at large. Britain, will the last person leaving please put the lights out. no chance of that happening now though .with all the millions of foreigners here and that maggot cameron touring europe secretly agreeing to let tens of thousands more in from romania and bulgaria ,some politicians and journalists also suggest that hes agreed secretly to guarantee these immigrants 75 000 jobs .what a loss to britain was the loss of john smith the labour leader who died so suddenly .his untimely death lead the way for blair to succeed him .i really think john smith would have turned this country around .had he lived and became prime minister 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaz 688 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 well obviously not you as kinnock was never PM well obviously not you as kinnock was never PM Where did I say he was Pm einstein ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaz 688 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Who remembers the front page headline when Kinnock and his cronies were at large. Britain, will the last person leaving please put the lights out. no chance of that happening now though .with all the millions of foreigners here and that maggot cameron touring europe secretly agreeing to let tens of thousands more in from romania and bulgaria ,some politicians and journalists also suggest that hes agreed secretly to guarantee these immigrants 75 000 jobs .what a loss to britain was the loss of john smith the labour leader who died so suddenly .his untimely death lead the way for blair to succeed him .i really think john smith would have turned this country around .had he lived and became prime minister Who remembers the front page headline when Kinnock and his cronies were at large. Britain, will the last person leaving please put the lights out. no chance of that happening now though .with all the millions of foreigners here and that maggot cameron touring europe secretly agreeing to let tens of thousands more in from romania and bulgaria ,some politicians and journalists also suggest that hes agreed secretly to guarantee these immigrants 75 000 jobs .what a loss to britain was the loss of john smith the labour leader who died so suddenly .his untimely death lead the way for blair to succeed him .i really think john smith would have turned this country around .had he lived and became prime minister >Who remembers the front page headline when Kinnock and his cronies were at large. Britain, will the last person leaving please put the lights out. no chance of that happening now though .with all the millions of foreigners here and that maggot cameron touring europe secretly agreeing to let tens of thousands more in from romania and bulgaria ,some politicians and journalists also suggest that hes agreed secretly to guarantee these immigrants 75 000 jobs .what a loss to britain was the loss of john smith the labour leader who died so suddenly .his untimely death lead the way for blair to succeed him .i really think john smith would have turned this country around .had he lived and became prime minister Foriegners here due to Blair and a labour government. But at least we agree on something, John Smith would be turning in his grave at what followed him as a supposed labour leader and whilst there are no guarantees of what might have been I had at least respect for the man while I wouldn't piss on Blair if he was on fire. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pritch 335 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 well obviously not you as kinnock was never PM >well obviously not you as kinnock was never PM Where did I say he was Pm einstein ?. oh so your blaming him & his cronies for summet that had nowt to do wi him as he was never in power to implement any of his policies good or bad & what the f**k as he or anyone else got to do wi maggy being a horrible cnut the OP asked about thatcher,if you want to start a post about blair crack on,i'll be on that to callin him a b*****d as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick hucknell 17 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) well with the support of the thatcher rights yesterday at the funeral and just a few paid anti objectors who usely run with the lacs on a weekend i think the MAJORITY of people support margaret,Shame a few and its only a few object and if she was alive and well i would love to see her in power, RIP ms thatcher Edited April 18, 2013 by mick hucknell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,077 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 well with the support of the thatcher rights yesterday at the funeral and just a few paid anti objectors who usely run with the lacs on a weekend i think the MAJORITY of people support margaret,Shame a few and its only a few object and if she was alive and well i would love to see her in power, RIP ms thatcher WHY DID YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE NO SO JUST MORE PISS FROM YOU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,061 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Reading about some of the horrifying conditions these pit fellas worked in and all the deaths/illness etc you would think folk would be happy to see the back of them !.....................Im not clued up on miners or politics so i dont have strong opinions but i think it shows folks true ignorance of a subject when they think because they have studied the history or read a book and got second hand info that somehow qualifies them to think their opinion is equal to somebody who has lived and breathed the subject ! I dont know the fella Pedwar from adam but id take his word to the bank as you,ll never beat experiencing something to form an opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Lets have this right, I quiet fancy better wages and conditions so this is what we shall do......my firm earns 25 grand a year but I think I am worth 35 grand, the better conditions will cost the firm another 10 grand. So if I give all you union men on here a PayPal address you can send me the other 20 grand out of your own pockets......that sounds perfect to me. the strike wasnt over money it was about jobs FACT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 If you hated her politics thats one thing, if you were affected by her policies then i have some sympathy I am not going to do the Monty Python 4 Yorkshireman sketch but I was brought up in a very poor council area and her policies did affect my whole family more than half of which were working in the steel mills throughout this time. The difference between myself and some of the hateful things i have read is was always brought up to respect someone's death. I make no apology either for saying she led us out of probably the worst post war situation this country found itself in and led us away from the diatribe of what was then the union stranglehold of my country we were an absolute laughing stock to the rest of the world before this . Even I can see that if others can't then that's their opinion. I don't care whether you vote for tory or screaming lord such I find disrespecting a dead woman because of politics offensive to her children and grandchildren. respected for her children are you avin a f****n laugh one a reality show contestant & the other is an illegalarms dealer who was involved in trying to overthrow a government if it were your lad he'd be in the big house called a terrorist but coz of who his mam was he's sat in church wi the PM ffs if you can't see owt wrong in that your beyond help.there's a sayin round here "you can talk to a mon wi a wooden leg but not a wooden head That's just it, I used to have a wooden head and accepted what everyone else wanted me to think, before I learnt to think for myself. The facts are under Harold Wilson 290 coal mines were closed as compared to the 160 under Margret Thatcher but you dont get people calling Wilson an evil witch do you? In the last year of coal production before the strikes the subsidised British Coal industry lost £485 Million But hey let's not let the facts get in the way of a good witch hunt eh? Wooden head? they have just spent ten million on one cxnts funeral wooden head Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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