villaman 9,983 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 What I have been reading in the last 6 months or so on the internet and talking to other shooters that the HW97KT is probably the best springer of all time .Do you agree with this and why ? Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Its defo got to be up there with the best of them mate, especially once tuned by a good tuner. Quote Link to post
Mawders 595 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Just my opinion on the matter: Best looking rifle? NO, the AA Pro Sport has that nailed! Accuracy once tuned and build quality: HELL YEAH! It has to be one of the best, THE best is each to their own I reckon! Mawders 2 Quote Link to post
milegajo 595 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Certainly comes close. So close in fact I cannot, even if I really push myself to be ruthless, name a BETTER underlever springer (which I think is what we're really asking). Equals - two, possibly three. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Out of all the rifles being built today then yes, it's up there with the best of them. It's no better than a modern AA, just different. I know I'm sticking myself out on a limb here but if I was in the market for another gun I'd be looking at something that was built over ten years ago by either manufacturer. Their quality control was way better back then and I know that if I was careful with my choice then the worst that I'd be looking at was a good service and fettle but that seems to be the case with many new rifles these days. Sadly..... Sad but true, they're not made like they used to be. 6 Quote Link to post
BenjaminCadd 109 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just my opinion on the matter: Best looking rifle? NO, the AA Pro Sport has that nailed! Accuracy once tuned and build quality: HELL YEAH! It has to be one of the best, THE best is each to their own I reckon! Mawders What this man said! However i have never shot the Prosport so cant comment on that! But a tuned HW97 sets a high bench mark. Quote Link to post
-Lupo- 4 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Yes mate, i agree. Simple thing: The Springs from Weihrauch are not taht good, you have to change it. I´ve installed a V-Mach spring, piston seal, and sheet in the piston. Also i did a barrel honing. Shoots really nice groups. In the future, my baby gets a full TTI Tune kit, with compression chamber and piston, which are both teflon beared. But you can have a lot of fun with that rifle out of the box. Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 i currently have 2 untuned hw97s and i have had 4 in total.. Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I know of a certain Lady who had never fired a shot from any type of gun in her life. The first time she ever did was with Davy's .22 HW97KT Synthetic model. With a bit of instruction from Davy and me and a few shots later, she was knocking 2p pieces off a target board top at 35 yards! That is how good a rifle these are for a novice to get into decent shooting with encouraging results. And to be fair, she has a natural aptitude for shooting too. But there was the proof of what a fine rifle the HW97 is for anyone to begin properly training and develloping with. The best spring rifle of all time, however, is the HW77. No iffs or buts. Mine is a .22 untuned full size rifle, still has all-original Weihrauch spring and parts and my God, is it accurate! It was however, fettled, polished and honed by my dear mate Andy here to perfection. This is the original and still the best. The HW97 is just as good. Just not better. I know. I own both! Just waiting for a certain German supplier to provide Sandwell Field Sports with the new piston heads so they can deliver the tuning kit for my HW97KT I ordered over 2 months ago.... Not Sandwell's fault this! Simon Edited April 15, 2013 by pianoman 1 Quote Link to post
Stigy79 5 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Out of the 97 and the tx200, its the tx for me as it sholders better but different strokes for different blokes I guess. Like to try a 77 before I make my mind up for sure. Quote Link to post
bwfc 164 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 You cant have a discussion on what the best springer is,without involving the BSA Goldstar.Its a pity there arent a lot more knocking about,then there would be more people in the know!. Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) We've been here before bwfc. The Goldstar was truly a fantastic underlever from BSA. But, it's like the E-Type Jag...For all its looks and performance, it's no longer made and available except to those who find the odd one in the ads and snap them up!. BSA no longer exists as once it was and the great rifles they produced like this, are no longer built as once before. It cannot count among the currently available crop. Getting hold of one of these is not easy as they are sought after by those who know. The one in the photo is a real beauty! You have to look at a thread like this as a discussion on what great rifles a fellow could buy off the shelf, brand new and readily available today. But I agree with you feelings on the BSA Goldstar. Beautiful rifle. Absolutely right! Regards. Simon Edited April 15, 2013 by pianoman 1 Quote Link to post
RobJ 10 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 This thread is quite topical for me. I have just sold a really nice, tuned TX200 and bought the 97kt. The TX was lovely and post tuning even better, sub 5p groups at 35yards when I'm on form, took many a rabbit. But for me personally there was just something I didn't quite get on with. The 97 is stunning, it fits me better, I find the locktime faster and it will have a PG2 kit in there soon. Does the shorter locktime make it a better rifle, no, some people prefer the tx shot cycle and shoot it brilliantly. Does the prosport wth its stunning stock make it better than the TX? In my experience no, I shouldered on once and it felt really odd to me. Does my experience the 97kt the best springer? No. But best for me. Springers are such personal beasts that have to fit the human behind the trigger to get the most out of them, I guess that's why there is such debate. One that will never be resolved until the individuals pick up a bunch of different springers and decides for themselves. I liken this to the .177 vs .22 debate, the top guns are all capable Quote Link to post
risingfriend 1,042 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 having limited experience of spring rifles i would say the HW97 for me. i had wanted to try a tx200 and Davy kindly leant me one and although it shot fine i just wasnt taken by it. dont get me wrong stunning to look at and shoulder, But after using a couple of 97kt at the thl meet all be it briefly i just new i wanted one. having only got mine last tuesday i am glad of the decision its cracking in both fit and performance, i prefer the thumbhole stocks seem to suit me more. ATB Aaron 1 Quote Link to post
bwfc 164 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Good post Pianoman!. If they could make a rifle that is as accurate and smooth as the Pro Sport,with the BSA multishot facility,Weihrauch reliability and the Goldstar stock with the TX stocks chequering we might be there lol. Edited April 15, 2013 by bwfc 1 Quote Link to post
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