Lamping Hares

[Terrier Sam 297]

 

its not like that anymore bendrover.no respect anymore

 

 

>its not like that anymore bendrover.no respect anymore

no mate , unfortunately. as for pest control ts , its more pest management , always better than total extermination.

 

Too true mate. I totally understand that and totally agree. That is the same for all quarry but that isn't what this is about. It's about guys saying that there was an unwritten rule to say that hare shouldn't have been lamped, just left for the daytime guys.

 

Crap running dogs effect the future actions of rabbits that get away. They also effected the future actions of fox, deer and hare (pre ban) that used to get away. We have all lamped lampshy rabbits that some muppet has attempted to catch with a crap dog but hey ho. these people exist in all walks of life mate. It's just the way it goes but no one can use that as the reason because otherwise they should be saying that same about all quarry.

 

I'm not after a fist fight, I just don't understand why daytime lads had this rule. The only thing I can think of is greed in the same as you hear about hunt lads calling in fox on the lamp purely to make them lampshy so that they get better results.....

 

ATB

 

Sam

[shaaark 10,694]

Said this a couple of times before, but the fact that many people call it 'sport' is one of the main reasons it was banned. Similarly 'testing' your dog, or whatever you want to call it, says to all those opposed to hunting of any sort, that people who hunt with dogs are just out to terrify and persecute wildlife for a laugh. I think we wouldn't be in the situation we are now in if people didn't use the word 'sport'. It's HUNTING, and most people are more sympathetic about hunting to provide food for family etc, than they are about hunting for sport/fun. I know there's more to it politically etc, but that's a subject I do my best to stay well away from

[jamesmc 582]

[jf1970 328]

most daytime lads were more like coservationists regards old hartly . never wiping a place out of numbers and tipping their hat to a strong winter hare . it was genuinely weaker , older animals that were knocked over . its called respect.

there you go again, like only the daytime lads can do that.

[jf1970 328]

jf1970.if shotguns and rifels were ever totally banned the hare population would soon recover as i have said before any one can learn to shoot a shotgun any one can learn to set up a high powered rifle.on a hare shoot the kill rate is 65 percent which means shoot at 200 hares only 70 survive that is of course if you have not saturated the field with guns then none will escape .to me shotguns and rifels are not sporting tools they are murder tools.i like to see any animal to be given fair law no light blinding it no hypersonic bullet up its arse. natures law flesh against flesh fit man fit dog.not some unfit fat slob waiting for driven game.which he has paid thousands of pounds to blow to bits.anyone who says shooting hares is sporting is a liar.if i said right your fit whahts it to be a 12 bore fired at you both barells or a scoped up rifle .or another fit human chaseing you ? shotgun 65 percent. rifle certain death if set correctly.being chased very good odds of escapeing

i wasn't talking about driven shoots, and to say that the hare population would recover if shotguns and rifles were totally banned, surely you can't believe that.

[Terrier Sam 297]

most daytime lads were more like coservationists regards old hartly . never wiping a place out of numbers and tipping their hat to a strong winter hare . it was genuinely weaker , older animals that were knocked over . its called respect.

I'm sorry mate. I don't usually get involved in petty stuff on here but you can't say that all lamping lads wipe out their quarry. Maybe that's the case where you are but not everywhere.

 

This is coming from a guy who cut his season short by a month or so and stopped going out at the beginning of Feb because Ihe had one pregnant rabbit I think you call that respect for quarry mate. I could have carried on like some would

 

ATB

 

Sam

[blackgreyhound 206]

matt the rat.its up to your judgemeant how you conduct your hunting.i am sure the north american indian was well pleased when the white man shot all of his buffalow.and they were starveing to death .im sure the north american passenger pigeon was over the moon to see millions of his fellow pigeons blasted into esxtinction.i hate seeing hare shoots and i have come to hate shotguns..i have dealt with people like you before who think they are clever untill they get up one morning and find thier poults have mysteriously died over night.proper hunting pish

[low plains drifter 10,290]

 

 

hares are natures champions,give them some law with the winter sun on your back.nothing better a hares natural instinct is to make for cover,lampers know this and dazzle the lamp on the hedges

How do you know

ive read all plummers books

Good,honest,down to earth read them plummers,he could teach darcy a thing or two

[Matt 160]

matt the rat.its up to your judgemeant how you conduct your hunting.i am sure the north american indian was well pleased when the white man shot all of his buffalow.and they were starveing to death .im sure the north american passenger pigeon was over the moon to see millions of his fellow pigeons blasted into esxtinction.i hate seeing hare shoots and i have come to hate shotguns..i have dealt with people like you before who think they are clever untill they get up one morning and find thier poults have mysteriously died over night.proper hunting pish

 

What the heck has buffalo got to do with lamping hares?

 

And for your information I don't have any poults for you to 'mysteriously' kill. Read what I wrote; each to his or her own. I'd defend dog work if the boot was on the other foot.

 

Oh, and please don't make any more veiled threats. I'm not easily intimidated by anyone

[bendrover 556]

 

most daytime lads were more like coservationists regards old hartly . never wiping a place out of numbers and tipping their hat to a strong winter hare . it was genuinely weaker , older animals that were knocked over . its called respect.

I'm sorry mate. I don't usually get involved in petty stuff on here but you can't say that all lamping lads wipe out their quarry. Maybe that's the case where you are but not everywhere.

 

This is coming from a guy who cut his season short by a month or so and stopped going out at the beginning of Feb because Ihe had one pregnant rabbit I think you call that respect for quarry mate. I could have carried on like some would

 

ATB

 

Sam

well done pal ,genuinely two seasons ago i stopped in the first week of feb as the dogs were doing there jobs easier . when they are off they are off. you give your side of the discussion well and i enjoy speaking to people like yourself but ,i must ask ,where did i say NO LAMPERS HAVE RESPECT FOR THE HARE

[low plains drifter 10,290]

All pre ban of course Iam not against it every man too there own on what they want too do but for me yea I would of took them preban if I want one for the pot or a freind then yea but there not something that I would eat every day of the week so ud be lucky if i would of took 10 a year and iam not a type too go out during the day for one iam more of a lamping man then daytime and i still can't find a good recipe for hare for on the BBQ so there not on my dinner list

Soak meat overnight in saltwater,rinse and dice hare put in casserole dish with onions,carrots mushrooms,packet of colmans beef casserole mix,slow cook in oven about 6 hours simple and delicious

[St Tropez 3]

 

jf1970.if shotguns and rifels were ever totally banned the hare population would soon recover as i have said before any one can learn to shoot a shotgun any one can learn to set up a high powered rifle.on a hare shoot the kill rate is 65 percent which means shoot at 200 hares only 70 survive that is of course if you have not saturated the field with guns then none will escape .to me shotguns and rifels are not sporting tools they are murder tools.i like to see any animal to be given fair law no light blinding it no hypersonic bullet up its arse. natures law flesh against flesh fit man fit dog.not some unfit fat slob waiting for driven game.which he has paid thousands of pounds to blow to bits.anyone who says shooting hares is sporting is a liar.if i said right your fit whahts it to be a 12 bore fired at you both barells or a scoped up rifle .or another fit human chaseing you ? shotgun 65 percent. rifle certain death if set correctly.being chased very good odds of escapeing

i wasn't talking about driven shoots, and to say that the hare population would recover if shotguns and rifles were totally banned, surely you can't believe that.

when you see hare shoots take place on the fen .and driven shoots at that . hares in the hundreds being shot .on multiple farms and estates both in lincoln .norfolk .cambridge and peterborough .every year .you then realise what effect shotguns are having on the hare population .then on top of that you get the night time shooters .dogs do nothing to the detriment of a healthy hare population .its farmers and game keepers that have the biggest impact on hare numbers.

[low plains drifter 10,290]

 

 

jf1970.if shotguns and rifels were ever totally banned the hare population would soon recover as i have said before any one can learn to shoot a shotgun any one can learn to set up a high powered rifle.on a hare shoot the kill rate is 65 percent which means shoot at 200 hares only 70 survive that is of course if you have not saturated the field with guns then none will escape .to me shotguns and rifels are not sporting tools they are murder tools.i like to see any animal to be given fair law no light blinding it no hypersonic bullet up its arse. natures law flesh against flesh fit man fit dog.not some unfit fat slob waiting for driven game.which he has paid thousands of pounds to blow to bits.anyone who says shooting hares is sporting is a liar.if i said right your fit whahts it to be a 12 bore fired at you both barells or a scoped up rifle .or another fit human chaseing you ? shotgun 65 percent. rifle certain death if set correctly.being chased very good odds of escapeing

i wasn't talking about driven shoots, and to say that the hare population would recover if shotguns and rifles were totally banned, surely you can't believe that.

when you see hare shoots take place on the fen .and driven shoots at that . hares in the hundreds being shot .on multiple farms and estates both in lincoln .norfolk .cambridge and peterborough .every year .you then realise what effect shotguns are having on the hare population .then on top of that you get the night time shooters .dogs do nothing to the detriment of a healthy hare population .its farmers and game keepers that have the biggest impact on hare numbers.

I saw some footage once of a hare shoot,some were still alive after taking two barrels,horrible to see a hare put in such a way as to be unable to defend itself,the end result resembled something from a war documentary with row upon row of dead hares,what a shame they could'nt have been netted up and used to repopulate other parts of the country,whether it be shooting estates,nature reserves or wherever else

[Matt 160]

when you see hare shoots take place on the fen .and driven shoots at that . hares in the hundreds being shot .on multiple farms and estates both in lincoln .norfolk .cambridge and peterborough .every year .you then realise what effect shotguns are having on the hare population .then on top of that you get the night time shooters .dogs do nothing to the detriment of a healthy hare population .its farmers and game keepers that have the biggest impact on hare numbers.

 

Doesn't the fact that those estates can have hare shoots every year tell you something?

 

As I said earlier, there seem to be pockets of hares in big numbers in some parts of the country. Those evil shooters are having little or no effect on their numbers. I can remember reading debates like this 25 years ago!

 

I do, however, agree that the odd hare caught by the dog boys and the beaglers has no noticeable effect on hare numbers. When hares are present in big enough numbers to cause real damage issues, only some sort of organised shooting has any real effect.

 

We've got problems here at the moment with dickheads driving across drilled fields, coursing milky hares. Wouldn't be surprised (but would be saddened) to find that the farmers get together and shoot a heap next winter to bring the numbers right back down.

 

The biggest enemy to the coursing enthusiast these days isn't the gun boys; it's the scumbags coming out and driving on crops day and night and then leaving dead hares lying around. They seem to be lamping more and more around here because the daytime poaching has been getting too hot.

 

As someone else posted earlier; respect for the quarry, the dogs, and the land seems to be a dying quality in these parts.

[blackgreyhound 206]

matt the rat.i remember it well it was 1980 when the keeper from liscombe park came to see me .he wanted to have a parly he was a bit depressed someone was cutting thru his pheashants stocks like a knife thru butter he was loseing sometimes 60 birds in a night.air rifle i believe .he had been told of the deal me and the late colin stone woburn keeper had come to .any way we talked terms i could come on the estate course hares rabitts but nothing else .ok i said .then he said but i will have to be with you at all times oh no i said my word is my bond i cant do that .anyway i said no hard feeelings come and look at my latest breeding there they were charlie the dad and several of his progeny .i talked to him proudly about titan big brindle deeerhound lurcherxgsd x g.high hopes i had for him very fast as good as a fast greyhound best dog for speed i had ever bred .couple days later went out to my big dog pen titan was laying there nearly dead died in my arms poisoined.charlie his dad was foaming at the mouth stagerring around like he was drunk he survived.of course the keeper had to reap whaht he had sown later on.