goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) hares are natures champions,give them some law with the winter sun on your back.nothing better a hares natural instinct is to make for cover,lampers know this and dazzle the lamp on the hedges Edited April 12, 2013 by goldfinch2007 Quote Link to post
bendrover 556 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 if they are lamped enough at night.....they don't run that much different than during the day.....once they are clued up.....back in eh day of course... if they are lamped enough at night.....they don't run that much different than during the day.....once they are clued up.....back in eh day of course... and how do they get clued up relentless pusuit by inferior adversaries . but a good lamping dog (rabbiter) can slaughter good numbers , if the shite lampers havnt run her first each to their own and all that . but it wasnt for me Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 you see, this is the problem with some of the "daytime lads" they think "their" way should be the only way, and god forbid if anyone should ever lamp or shoot a hare, each man to their chosen sport. 3 Quote Link to post
bendrover 556 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 most daytime lads were more like coservationists regards old hartly . never wiping a place out of numbers and tipping their hat to a strong winter hare . it was genuinely weaker , older animals that were knocked over . its called respect. Quote Link to post
Terrier Sam 297 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) I'm sorry but I don't get this. Farmers haven't changed much have they?? If a farmer had a hare problem and you said "Oh I'm sorry but I don't have good daytime dogs, just lampers. They'd catch a hare on the lamp but I don't like lamping hares so I can't sort them, out for you", then surely to god your permission would be lost?? Am I missing something? Isn't this the reason that anti's have such a problem with certain field sports? By this I mean that some people are simply looking to test their dogs as opposed to providing a pest control service, feeding ourselves and our animals? Don't get me wrong, I love watching dogs work and even more when they meet their match but the bottom line for me is that I provide a service for farmers and land owners close to me. The fact that I have a laugh in doing so and that I can put food on the table are just bonuses as far as I'm concerned. I know guys who go lamping and have admitted to turning the lamp off if the dog gets too close to the quarry. To me, this is ridiculous. If the dog gets it's quarry it gets it fair and square. If it misses, the quarry was better on the day. End of. Edited to add that in my opinion, of course it was easier to lamp hares rather than run them daytime but that is the same with all quarry that's lamped - that's why it's so effective! Let me know if you disagree though because I like to see what drives others to get out there ATBSam Edited April 12, 2013 by Terrierman Sam 1 Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 its not like that anymore bendrover.no respect anymore 1 Quote Link to post
bendrover 556 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 its not like that anymore bendrover.no respect anymore its not like that anymore bendrover.no respect anymore no mate , unfortunately. as for pest control ts , its more pest management , always better than total extermination. Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,294 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 hares are natures champions,give them some law with the winter sun on your back.nothing better a hares natural instinct is to make for cover,lampers know this and dazzle the lamp on the hedges How do you know 1 Quote Link to post
blackgreyhound 206 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 jf1970.if shotguns and rifels were ever totally banned the hare population would soon recover as i have said before any one can learn to shoot a shotgun any one can learn to set up a high powered rifle.on a hare shoot the kill rate is 65 percent which means shoot at 200 hares only 70 survive that is of course if you have not saturated the field with guns then none will escape .to me shotguns and rifels are not sporting tools they are murder tools.i like to see any animal to be given fair law no light blinding it no hypersonic bullet up its arse. natures law flesh against flesh fit man fit dog.not some unfit fat slob waiting for driven game.which he has paid thousands of pounds to blow to bits.anyone who says shooting hares is sporting is a liar.if i said right your fit whahts it to be a 12 bore fired at you both barells or a scoped up rifle .or another fit human chaseing you ? shotgun 65 percent. rifle certain death if set correctly.being chased very good odds of escapeing 1 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 the pound coin is is stronger than respect and pre ban at five pound a go i killed them in the lamp nothing to do with right or wrong it was a way to keep the house hold going there some shite talked on here at times i bet half the people on here never ran a day and night dog or seen one if it was in the beam it was fair game same in the day time kick it up get it in the bag and that is how it went a means to a end in the real world running for sport different ball game but not for me. atb 6 Quote Link to post
bendrover 556 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 if they are lamped enough at night.....they don't run that much different than during the day.....once they are clued up.....back in eh day of course... >>if they are lamped enough at night.....they don't run that much different than during the day.....once they are clued up.....back in eh day of course... :thumbs: and how do they get clued up relentless pusuit by inferior adversaries . but a good lamping dog (rabbiter) can slaughter good numbers , if the shite lampers havnt run her first each to their own and all that . but it wasnt for me how do they get clued up?...people lamping them wae shite dugs that canny catch them.... ,everybody comes on here n talks about respecting them n all that but I bet ye they have all done it... am naw all for it,but I am not against it......each to their own your right j ive done it . but i grew out it at about 17 . what about the lads through your way . how many dogs are put on game at the one time .again its called respect and then the same lads will be on in dec saying theres nowt about well some a them some will be waiting for the better weather you know the type j Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 hares are natures champions,give them some law with the winter sun on your back.nothing better a hares natural instinct is to make for cover,lampers know this and dazzle the lamp on the hedges How do you know ive read all plummers books Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Blackgreyhound you know feck all about guns or shooting by the looks of things. I used to love to see a hare run in front of a good dog, and I love my beagling. In an ideal world there would be a good population of hares spread across all of the country. Sadly, there isn't, and in those areas where there are lots of hares shoots can kill hundreds of hares year in, year out, with no noticeable effect on the population. Most of the hare shoots I know of are carried out by the beaters etc at the end of the season after driven shooting has finished, and there are usually two reasons they are done, to reduce the population to prevent crop and tree damage, and to reduce the population to discourage poachers and low lifes who drive on crops. From a beagling point of view, the best days out I've had have been where there aren't hundreds of hares to switch on all the time. Oh, and let's not forget that there is an exemption to allow hunting when a hare shoot has been carried out and they think they may have wounded a hare Don't get me wrong here boys, in an ideal world hares would only be run by dogs or hounds. Sadly, we don't live in an ideal world and the fact that hare shooting is still legal allows us to at least get a bit of proper hunting in once in a while. Each to his own I say. There is nothing to be gained from condemning another mans sport. Quote Link to post
BIGLURKS 874 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 All pre ban of course Iam not against it every man too there own on what they want too do but for me yea I would of took them preban if I want one for the pot or a freind then yea but there not something that I would eat every day of the week so ud be lucky if i would of took 10 a year and iam not a type too go out during the day for one iam more of a lamping man then daytime and i still can't find a good recipe for hare for on the BBQ so there not on my dinner list Quote Link to post
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