gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) . Lol. You talk and quote utter shite. . Really? Care to elaborate? Quotes are all genuine, perhaps you would like to tell everyone otherwise? Churchill was the product of sandhurst an empire officer like many carried on a familly. Tradition of joing the army and a regiment with family history. A very popular man in russia i think not. A great britain. Without qestion a man of the people depends on your view of history , Am sure mr rat is googling that. Right now. Lol Churchill was a man who believed in 'destiny'. His overwhelming belief throughout his life was that one day the nation would call on him to help save the country; just like his ancestor the Duke of Malborough. Sadly, having studied the man and read many works by him and about him, I don't need to pray to the god that is google on this one. I must be really sad, because I even have recordings of some of his famous speeches; he really was one of the greatest orators of all time. I don't know how you can suggest that 'Winnie' wasn't popular with the people. Not only was he the greatest wartime leader and orator this country has ever produced, he was also loved and admired by people of all classes in this country. Don't forget that despite his numerous disputes with the unions, the cranes operated by the dock workers of London all saluted his coffin as it was taken by barge down the Thames. Can't see them bothering to do anything like that for Mrs T, Tony bLiar, Gordon 'sell the gold' Brown, or even Scargill. Faultless? No, of course not. He was a vain and arrogant man who came from a different age; but let's not allow that to cloud the overall judgement of his great achievements; the finest of which, of course, was the defeat of Nazism, which in turn allowed us all the right to voice an opinion on him. mat. Churchill. Is viewed. With national pride and rightly so in one of are darkest hours he rallied the nation , he allso made some sickerning desions yes he was lead by his advisors but he sighned the death warrant of many, in war desisions have to be made and made fast His coalition with the russians . Never an easy one , mountbattern swayed him in to o sending the cosak army back to certain death but thats another story , churchill and thatcher were miles and worlds apart one who deserved a full military burial and one whose picture will never adorn a wall in my household. Dieu et mon droit. !!!!!!!! Edited April 11, 2013 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 f***ing hell GTE you don't half come across strong! 'Utter shite'.............. Matt attributed the recipient of the quote wrongly! Hardly utter f***ing shite is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) f*****g hell GTE you don't half come across strong! 'Utter shite'.............. Matt attributed the recipient of the quote wrongly! Hardly utter f*****g shite is it? . Sorry old bean If my demeanour comes across that way Just banter i assure you Edited April 11, 2013 by gonetoearth 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 None taken Good topic anyway. Anyone else got any classic Churchill quotes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 f*****g hell GTE you don't half come across strong! 'Utter shite'.............. Matt attributed the recipient of the quote wrongly! Hardly utter f*****g shite is it? . Sorry old bean If my demeanour comes across that way Just banter i assure you No worries, I might not agree with you on everything but you are certainly a wealth of knowledge like many on here. Matt; "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometimes in your life" "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky 3,325 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 the returning soldiers didn't think a lot to him , first chance they had, him and is crew were voted out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Britains greatest wartime leader, of that, there is no question. Britains greatest war strategist? Doubtful. But let's not forget; he led this country through its darkest hour and was betrayed by the electorate who thought that Atlee would end rationing, provide jobs and homes for everyone, and give us all free healthcare. Some great Churchillisms: When someone suggested that Atlee was a modest man, "he has much to be modest about" When Lady Astor said "if I was married to you I would poison your coffee" Churchill: "Madam, if I had the misfortune to be married to you, I would drink it" When Lady Astor accused him of being drunk; "you madam are ugly. In the morning I shall be sober, but you will still be ugly" On animals: "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you, but pigs treat you as equals" A great man. " I am ready to meet my maker.Whether my maker is ready to meet me is another matter" Classic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Good quote about muslim men being capable of anything but restricted due to islam cant remember it fully but rings true from what i can. im undecided on churchill and ww2 in general all this zionism and bilderberg tin hat business has me questioning everything lol although im sceptical at most things these days im sure we public are only privvy to info on these leaders same as thatcher thats not quite the full story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 A pretty disastrous peace-time PM, on the whole, but I don't think any of his contemporaries could have got us through the War, let alone secure victory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky 3,325 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 his first world was a disaster too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 A pretty disastrous peace-time PM, on the whole, but I don't think any of his contemporaries could have got us through the War, let alone secure victory. Really? You think so? He led us through the early part of the time that McMillan described as 'never had it so good'. Ended rationing (Atlee failed miserably to get production up enough), and did some other good stuff. Sadly, he was really passed it by then; Eden took over and made a mess of Suez. Personally, I think he would have made a good job of our post war recovery if he'd been given a chance. Sadly, the electorate believed the spin of the then Labour leader Atlee, much the same as they did with bLiar. Oh and without resurrecting the Thatcher thread, just a reminder that Wilson actually closed twice the number of coal mines that Thatcher did. Who wrecked british industry? Not Churchill or Thatcher in my opinion; Wilson and Heath are responsible for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 his first world was a disaster too That must be why the Navy were so upset (not) when he was made First Lord of the Admiralty in 1939 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 "It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary." "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last." "Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room." Wise words. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 There is no such thing as a good. Tax. Churchill. Nacy astor. Sir if. You were my husband i would. Give you poison. Madam if i were your husband i would take it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 A pretty disastrous peace-time PM, on the whole, but I don't think any of his contemporaries could have got us through the War, let alone secure victory. Really? You think so? He led us through the early part of the time that McMillan described as 'never had it so good'. Ended rationing (Atlee failed miserably to get production up enough), and did some other good stuff. Sadly, he was really passed it by then; Eden took over and made a mess of Suez. Personally, I think he would have made a good job of our post war recovery if he'd been given a chance. Sadly, the electorate believed the spin of the then Labour leader Atlee, much the same as they did with bLiar. Oh and without resurrecting the Thatcher thread, just a reminder that Wilson actually closed twice the number of coal mines that Thatcher did. Who wrecked british industry? Not Churchill or Thatcher in my opinion; Wilson and Heath are responsible for that. . Mat. Harold wilson won three general elections. Buried in private. In a little plot on the isle of wight a kind and genourous man brought down by every power of the real world rulers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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