Winston Spencer Churchill

[keepitcovert 842]

After the thatcher fiasco on this site and on the streets of a lot of the major towns of this country, has it occured to anyone where the major influences of her political career came from, she destroyed the mining communities of that there is no doubt. Who helped in breaking the miners strike of 1926 at the point of bayonets. Who championed the battle of gallipoli and wanted to pump more men into a lost cause as first lord of the admiralty despite the immense losses, and had to resign over the catastrophe he had conducted. War made two politcal leaders famous, Churchill WW2, Thatcher Falklands, nothing more. Im no fan of thatcher but i lived through her reign, not like some of the 80s 90s generation who are slagging her of and know jack shit about the situation ot those days. I didnt live in churchills reign but my father did and he fought in burma with the 14th army and was not greatly impressed with his leadership, as were not the majority of the british public judging by his demise soon after.Seems to be a parellel universe, would you agree.

Edited April 10, 2013 by keepitcovert

[stewie 3,387]

no i wont agree..........all history now..........im more worried about this country becoming pakistan or poland.............

[readie 184]

After the thatcher fiasco on this site and on the streets of a lot of the major towns of this country, has it occured to anyone where the major influences of her political career came from, she destroyed the mining communities of that there is no doubt. Who helped in breaking the miners strike of 1926 at the point of bayonets. Who championed the battle of gallipoli and wanted to pump more men into a lost cause as first lord of the admiralty despite the immense losses, and had to resign over the catastrophe he had conducted. War made two politcal leaders famous, Churchill WW2, Thatcher Falklands, nothing more. Im no fan of thatcher but i lived through her reign, not like some of the 80s 90s generation who are slagging her of and know jack shit about the situation ot those days. I didnt live in churchills reign but my father did and he fought in burma with the 14th army and was not greatly impressed with his leadership, as were not the majority of the british public judging by his demise soon after.Seems to be a parellel universe, would you agree.

she didnt destroy the mining community,scargill and his cronies did.

[Matt 160]

Britains greatest wartime leader, of that, there is no question.

 

Britains greatest war strategist? Doubtful.

 

But let's not forget; he led this country through its darkest hour and was betrayed by the electorate who thought that Atlee would end rationing, provide jobs and homes for everyone, and give us all free healthcare.

 

 

Some great Churchillisms:

 

When someone suggested that Atlee was a modest man, "he has much to be modest about"

 

When Lady Astor said "if I was married to you I would poison your coffee" Churchill: "Madam, if I had the misfortune to be married to you, I would drink it"

 

When Lady Astor accused him of being drunk; "you madam are ugly. In the morning I shall be sober, but you will still be ugly"

 

On animals: "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you, but pigs treat you as equals"

 

 

A great man.

[stewie 3,387]

Britains greatest wartime leader, of that, there is no question.

 

Britains greatest war strategist? Doubtful.

 

But let's not forget; he led this country through its darkest hour and was betrayed by the electorate who thought that Atlee would end rationing, provide jobs and homes for everyone, and give us all free healthcare.

 

 

Some great Churchillisms:

 

When someone suggested that Atlee was a modest man, "he has much to be modest about"

 

When Lady Astor said "if I was married to you I would poison your coffee" Churchill: "Madam, if I had the misfortune to be married to you, I would drink it"

 

When Lady Astor accused him of being drunk; "you madam are ugly. In the morning I shall be sober, but you will still be ugly"

 

On animals: "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you, but pigs treat you as equals"

 

 

A great man.

legend.............

[marshman 7,757]

Hitler and hes Nazis would've been a lot less sympathetic to striking miners lol ! Without Churchill there's a good chance we would've lost to Nazi Germany , nuff said !!

[walshie 2,804]

My Grandad always had a picture of Churchill hanging in his office from as early as I can remember. That same picture is now on the wall in my hall. Truly great man.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Britains greatest wartime leader, of that, there is no question.

 

Britains greatest war strategist? Doubtful.

 

But let's not forget; he led this country through its darkest hour and was betrayed by the electorate who thought that Atlee would end rationing, provide jobs and homes for everyone, and give us all free healthcare.

 

 

Some great Churchillisms:

 

When someone suggested that Atlee was a modest man, "he has much to be modest about"

 

When Lady Astor said "if I was married to you I would poison your coffee" Churchill: "Madam, if I had the misfortune to be married to you, I would drink it"

 

When Lady Astor accused him of being drunk; "you madam are ugly. In the morning I shall be sober, but you will still be ugly"

 

On animals: "Dogs look up to you, cats look down on you, but pigs treat you as equals"

 

Lol

A great man.

. Lol. You talk and quote utter shite. .

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Churchill was the product of sandhurst an empire officer like many carried on a familly. Tradition of joing the army and a regiment with family history. A very popular man in russia i think not. A great britain. Without qestion a man of the people depends on your view of history , Am sure mr rat is googling that. Right now. Lol

[Matt 160]

. Lol. You talk and quote utter shite. .

 

 

Really?

 

Care to elaborate?

 

Quotes are all genuine, perhaps you would like to tell everyone otherwise?

 

 

Churchill was the product of sandhurst an empire officer like many carried on a familly. Tradition of joing the army and a regiment with family history. A very popular man in russia i think not. A great britain. Without qestion a man of the people depends on your view of history , Am sure mr rat is googling that. Right now. Lol

 

Churchill was a man who believed in 'destiny'. His overwhelming belief throughout his life was that one day the nation would call on him to help save the country; just like his ancestor the Duke of Malborough.

 

Sadly, having studied the man and read many works by him and about him, I don't need to pray to the god that is google on this one.

 

I must be really sad, because I even have recordings of some of his famous speeches; he really was one of the greatest orators of all time.

 

I don't know how you can suggest that 'Winnie' wasn't popular with the people. Not only was he the greatest wartime leader and orator this country has ever produced, he was also loved and admired by people of all classes in this country. Don't forget that despite his numerous disputes with the unions, the cranes operated by the dock workers of London all saluted his coffin as it was taken by barge down the Thames. Can't see them bothering to do anything like that for Mrs T, Tony bLiar, Gordon 'sell the gold' Brown, or even Scargill.

 

Faultless? No, of course not. He was a vain and arrogant man who came from a different age; but let's not allow that to cloud the overall judgement of his great achievements; the finest of which, of course, was the defeat of Nazism, which in turn allowed us all the right to voice an opinion on him.

[walshie 2,804]

 

. Lol. You talk and quote utter shite. .

 

 

Really?

 

Care to elaborate?

 

Quotes are all genuine, perhaps you would like to tell everyone otherwise?

 

 

>Churchill was the product of sandhurst an empire officer like many carried on a familly. Tradition of joing the army and a regiment with family history. A very popular man in russia i think not. A great britain. Without qestion a man of the people depends on your view of history , Am sure mr rat is googling that. Right now. Lol

 

Churchill was a man who believed in 'destiny'. His overwhelming belief throughout his life was that one day the nation would call on him to help save the country; just like his ancestor the Duke of Malborough.

 

Sadly, having studied the man and read many works by him and about him, I don't need to pray to the god that is google on this one.

 

I must be really sad, because I even have recordings of some of his famous speeches; he really was one of the greatest orators of all time.

 

I don't know how you can suggest that 'Winnie' wasn't popular with the people. Not only was he the greatest wartime leader and orator this country has ever produced, he was also loved and admired by people of all classes in this country. Don't forget that despite his numerous disputes with the unions, the cranes operated by the dock workers of London all saluted his coffin as it was taken by barge down the Thames. Can't see them bothering to do anything like that for Mrs T, Tony bLiar, Gordon 'sell the gold' Brown, or even Scargill.

 

Faultless? No, of course not. He was a vain and arrogant man who came from a different age; but let's not allow that to cloud the overall judgement of his great achievements; the finest of which, of course, was the defeat of Nazism, which in turn allowed us all the right to voice an opinion on him.

 

 

Well said that man.

[Matt 160]

Just for GTE, here is my text alert tone

 

winston_churchill.mp3

[gonetoearth 5,144]

I am a great fan of churchill as a leader in times off strife he was never found wanting his manipulation of Roosevelt and his command of the queens english was masterful his wit second to none , i said you talk shite not. Mr churchill If your going to qoute. A legend make sure you get it [BANNED TEXT] it was not lady astor It was bessy bradock. Sorry. Mr rat. But am sure you new that. Lol

[Matt 160]

I am a great fan of churchill as a leader in times off strife he was never found wanting his manipulation of Roosevelt and his command of the queens english was masterful his wit second to none , i said you talk shite not. Mr churchill If your going to qoute. A legend make sure you get it [bANNED TEXT] it was not lady astor It was bessy bradock. Sorry. Mr rat. But am sure you new that. Lol

 

Fair point, well made.

 

We have a beautiful and expressive language, but unfortunately not all are able to use it to it's full potential.

 

That often leads to misunderstandings

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Dont confuse my hatred of thatcher with my political views i hate blaire and brown and there cronies with eqaul zest !!!!!!!