Guest thebigdog Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Many meanings of the word 'lurcher' have been suggested: From the Romany words "lur" meaning thief and "cur" meaning a mixed dog breed, or from 'Middle English, from lorchen, to lurk, perhaps from lurken. A lurcher need not contain any greyhound, for instance a Saluki x collie, or a whippet x terrier are lurchers. They need not be first crosses either. googled pretty much it, the word lurcher was first used to describe a thievish person. the name was then imparted on the dogs used by poachers, describing a thievish dog, from romany language as you say. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest thebigdog Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 You don't need one for lamping and ferreting but they will do it and cross one with a running dog and it is a Lurcher. Any dog that lurches can be called a lurcher regardless of breed explain ? If a dog comes up on it's quarry,and slows down slightly,and attempts to pick up it,s prey when it turns by cutting to one side,rather than overshooting,The dog has learn't how to lurch,this is the reason why coursing greyhounds dont get ran too often as they wont clock the points up unless they are forcing a hare to turn,rather than hanging back until the hare decides to turn and allows the dog a chance to cut the corner and pick the hare up side on you need to sit yourself down and have a word with yourself ffs. 1 Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Why do people keep talking about malamute xs and GSD xs like there was a topic saying a man uses his malamute for ferreting and lamping why would you need a malamute for lamping and ferreting when you could get a purpose built dog to run and mark for the job? yet here you are doing the exact same thing........ ones mans meat is another mans poison...........if its not for you then forget about it and move on.........lifes to short to worry about another mans dog imo............ 2 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,298 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 You don't need one for lamping and ferreting but they will do it and cross one with a running dog and it is a Lurcher. Any dog that lurches can be called a lurcher regardless of breed explain ? If a dog comes up on it's quarry,and slows down slightly,and attempts to pick up it,s prey when it turns by cutting to one side,rather than overshooting,The dog has learn't how to lurch,this is the reason why coursing greyhounds dont get ran too often as they wont clock the points up unless they are forcing a hare to turn,rather than hanging back until the hare decides to turn and allows the dog a chance to cut the corner and pick the hare up side on you need to sit yourself down and have a word with yourself ffs. yeah I like the romany description myself,like the saying,put a lurcher in a field and it will come out at the other end with a dinner for you,funny how such a simple and natural thing like having a run with the dogs can cause so much debate,forget my attempt at explaining what the word lurcher means,run cunning or to lurch,however it is explained,i know i wont be thinking about it the next time i see my dog dancing with the rabbit on the hill Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,298 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Edited April 11, 2013 by low plains drifter Quote Link to post
slygo83 4 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I don't see any sense in a malamatu cross but that's just my opinion. However a Malinois/GSD/DS cross, that I like. Why? Well you can find extremely good working lines quite easy. Everywhere on this board I read how important working parents are when breeding. Everyone with a few hours to spare could locate a great stud. If you combine the right parents and have some luck (which you need in every breeding) you can get some very nice traits I guess from these dogs in your breeding. Physically: The dogs are very healthy and sound They are very athletic They have stamina to spare They have nice coats They have great feet The Malinois/DS is quite racey/leggy to start with They have a great nose The lurcher you end up with usually doesn't look like on but looks like a lean shepherd which can be a bonus to some Character/mentally: They are very intelligent They can be very obedient They have a high work drive They have a high hunt drive They are great retrievers They are owner minded and have a high drive to protect because of this They like to please you, they will do things just because you like them to They have balls Several malinois and dutchies that are being worked over here are so fast of the mark and have quite a high top speed that only a quarter of Grey or Whippet might be all they would need, in a GSD x I think a half cross would be better. If your lucky you'd get a dog that is not dual purpose but multi purpose. General tasks every lurcher would perform on probably all quarry currently legal and legal pre-ban, bushing, ferreting, rough shooting, retrieving shot game, tracking shot deer, guard dog. And several other activities like maybe ski-joring which I like. The only reason I'd get a second dog when owning a cross like this is because I'm a dog lover, not because I need another. Downside might be in some cases that you need to supply some of these dogs with a high enough work load. If not some of them might be a hand full for some people. This is not the case in all of them, the 2012 district champion in protection work is owned by a 65 year old man and just kept indoors, completely trustworthy with kids. She only switches on when she's on the field. Very calm and relaxed dog. Tried to convince the owner to breed from her but due to his own age he didn't like the idea. Some dogs with a lot of malinois in them can be yappy and maybe finding a nice stud dog in the UK might not be as easy as it is over here. i have a malinoi bitch 12 month an this is true she can last all day [BANNED TEXT] out all day walkin an no prob we feet as stated her coat also stands up to the lovely weather we have in uk lol an i pity the person who tries gettin in the van or house lol Quote Link to post
girl hunter 4 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I have a saluki x husky, she is the mutts nuts - very clever, very fast, she thinks things through, she is tough, well built and will take any legal quarry. She is also a very pretty dog (not that looks are important, but it feels good to me to have such a stunning dog) Temprement wise, she is calm, happy and very energetic, she dosn't bark and she is very biddable and attentive. Don't knock it till you have tried it matey, some supposedly brilliant crosses amount to nothing, some 'odd' or unusual dogs turn out to be amazing, I judge on a dog by dog basis, it's all down to personal choice at the end of the day. Quote Link to post
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