Matt 160 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I seldom get involved in political discussions on fieldsports boards but I detested that woman so much I have to speak.She was brought in to do a job destroy the miners cripple the unions.She did this using every trick in the book and then some!All my family were involved in the mines and I remember the picket lines where she deployed SAS troopers(YES!) dressed as miners or bogus police to act as "Agent Provocateurs" .Using Special Forces and thugs from the Met,who I personally witnessed beating even the women who supported the strikers!Oh she did the job alright supported her Class, so well done to Arthur Scargill for standing up for his Class!When the lads were taken to court on trumped charges for picketing they even had lies told about them having criminal records when the majority were just hard working Colliers!The thing about mining communities is they have very long memories!! So let's get this right; Scargill stood up for his 'class' and Mrs Thatcher wanted a miners strike? Don't be silly. The fecking unions were destroying this country; their constant walk outs and illegal strikes made us a laughing stock all over the world, and the electorate had had enough. What's a landslide election victory? One where the winning party has a huge majority, in other words the public had had enough and wanted someone strong who would stand up against the Moscow led union officials who didn't want anything except conflict. Let's just remember that the good old working class Scargill has a £34k p/a flat, for life, paid for by his union. Some working class hero. I dare say that there were a few 'dirty tricks' on both sides of the miners strike, but let's not forget the crimes committed by miners against their own; murder for one, dropping a concrete block off a bridge onto a passing car. This country was totally f****d in '79. The unions had been led to believe that they were more important than anything else. We needed someone strong, who was prepared to stand up to them and get us back on our feet. Mrs T did that, and sadly, one of the prices paid was our mining industry. As I said earlier, Wilson (Labour) closed twice the number of mines that MrsT did, but because Scargill wouldn't back down and decided to fight to the death she gets the blame. Would it have been better for her to allow the economy to go into complete meltdown by continuing to fund nationalised industries like Mining? I don't think so. Would it have been better if Scargill had brought the miners out (without a legal vote) in the winter and compromised before he destroyed the goose that laid him a golden egg? Of course it would. It didn't happen because the Stalin loving Scargill was having his strings pulled by Moscow. Like her or loath her, she was never defeated and won three elections. You don't do that by being all bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaz 688 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I remember the bread being rationed, god knows who was striking, anyway, myself and my three brothers went in opposite directions to different shops and joined the lengthy queues to buy the most basic requirement, bread. I suppose in this day and age of fast food shops four to a street and many families on benefits living out of carryout shops this is a situation hard to comprehend. Open the bloody mines, doubt you'll get anyone to venture down them, labour handing out money to folk sitting on their arse have seen to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 She won elections when she really not ought to have.The main reason being the opposition were a mess.only themselfs to blame they didnt topple her.it took her own loyal party to do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Catherine Jenkins Accepts Invite To The Funeral . . . She'll Be Popular Back In Wales !! Wouldnt It Off Been Better For Them Too Have A Private Funeral . . No Hang On They'd Off Had Too Pay For That Themselves !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Catherine Jenkins Accepts Invite To The Funeral . . . She'll Be Popular Back In Wales !! Wouldnt It Off Been Better For Them Too Have A Private Funeral . . No Hang On They'd Off Had Too Pay For That Themselves !! The family are paying the funeral costs. Only right that the state pick up the policing costs; they would be there whatever. Don't see many refusing to attend. The only funeral for a politician attended by the Queen apart from WSC. Don't see many on here moaning about that? There will be people from all over the world there, get ready for the shame of some scumbags making a nuisance of themselves. The water cannons will be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Catherine Jenkins Accepts Invite To The Funeral . . . She'll Be Popular Back In Wales !! Wouldnt It Off Been Better For Them Too Have A Private Funeral . . No Hang On They'd Off Had Too Pay For That Themselves !! The family are paying the funeral costs. Only right that the state pick up the policing costs; they would be there whatever. Don't see many refusing to attend. The only funeral for a politician attended by the Queen apart from WSC. Don't see many on here moaning about that? There will be people from all over the world there, get ready for the shame of some scumbags making a nuisance of themselves. The water cannons will be interesting. So They Fecking Should Pay . . Oh Hang On What Should We Say "Thats Good Off Them" !! Why Should The State "You Mean Tax Payer" Pick Up Millions Off Pound Bill ? Not Many Will Refuse To Attend Who Are Asked As People Who Suffered By Her Actions Won't Be Invited And If He Was Still Alive And The Facts Hadnt Come Out Jimmy Saville Would Be On The Front Row !! You Say Bring Shame On The Country . . Nothing Compared To What She Did Concerning 96 Football Fans Shameful Isn't The Word . . The British Public Is As Good As Any In The World At Respecting The Memory Off People . . . Raising Hundreds Off Millions Every Year For Charity's All Over The World From Famine In Africa To Disasters In Japan Ect So These Actions By Some Should Tell You How Badly People Feel They Where Treated And Rightly Show There Feelings ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bazbug 2 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hahaha oh so true. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bazbug 2 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hahaha bang on :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I seldom get involved in political discussions on fieldsports boards but I detested that woman so much I have to speak.She was brought in to do a job destroy the miners cripple the unions.She did this using every trick in the book and then some!All my family were involved in the mines and I remember the picket lines where she deployed SAS troopers(YES!) dressed as miners or bogus police to act as "Agent Provocateurs" .Using Special Forces and thugs from the Met,who I personally witnessed beating even the women who supported the strikers!Oh she did the job alright supported her Class, so well done to Arthur Scargill for standing up for his Class!When the lads were taken to court on trumped charges for picketing they even had lies told about them having criminal records when the majority were just hard working Colliers!The thing about mining communities is they have very long memories!! So let's get this right; Scargill stood up for his 'class' and Mrs Thatcher wanted a miners strike? Don't be silly. The fecking unions were destroying this country; their constant walk outs and illegal strikes made us a laughing stock all over the world, and the electorate had had enough. What's a landslide election victory? One where the winning party has a huge majority, in other words the public had had enough and wanted someone strong who would stand up against the Moscow led union officials who didn't want anything except conflict. Let's just remember that the good old working class Scargill has a £34k p/a flat, for life, paid for by his union. Some working class hero. I dare say that there were a few 'dirty tricks' on both sides of the miners strike, but let's not forget the crimes committed by miners against their own; murder for one, dropping a concrete block off a bridge onto a passing car. This country was totally f****d in '79. The unions had been led to believe that they were more important than anything else. We needed someone strong, who was prepared to stand up to them and get us back on our feet. Mrs T did that, and sadly, one of the prices paid was our mining industry. As I said earlier, Wilson (Labour) closed twice the number of mines that MrsT did, but because Scargill wouldn't back down and decided to fight to the death she gets the blame. Would it have been better for her to allow the economy to go into complete meltdown by continuing to fund nationalised industries like Mining? I don't think so. Would it have been better if Scargill had brought the miners out (without a legal vote) in the winter and compromised before he destroyed the goose that laid him a golden egg? Of course it would. It didn't happen because the Stalin loving Scargill was having his strings pulled by Moscow. Like her or loath her, she was never defeated and won three elections. You don't do that by being all bad. why is the country fxcked today then no unions on strike all the time?why is it ok to subsidise farming because most vote tory?scargill didnt fetch the miners out yorkshire miners walked out when they said corton wood was shutting fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 The family is making a undisclosed contribution to the funeral.going by that familys track record it will be a fiver.lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sikastag_1 689 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Mat I ain't being funny, but reading you rattling on about she's a mother grandmother etc etc, what about people that comit rapes and murders, they are somebody's father, mother, daughter etc etc do you hit out with that shit when you read the paper? " Here mat look bin laden planned and carried out a terrorist attack on america and killed thousands I hope the b*****d rots" " not me mate that's somebody's father and husband ye know" , what a lot of shit thatcher ain't just f****d 1 or 2 life's, she f****d GREAT BRITAIN so f**k her I'm with the millions of others, I know what il be blasting out the speakers on Wednesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 From what I can see, and i remember bin bags piled high in the streets and blackouts, the unions and its members took the piss and got ironed out. Get over it......we lost docking along the Thames long before, to bloody expensive to land cargo......thanks to, yes you've guessed it, the good old union. If they had really wanted to save the pits, they would have dumped the union, worked twice as long for half the money and made the business work. Instead it was " all out boys" every two minutes and they reaped the whirlwind.....no one to blame but themselves! . Wilf the reason the the up river docks closed india etc. was nothing to do Discontent it was pure logistics. Ship were getting out of general cargo and bulk carriers were get bigger the thames could not be dredged up river to costly all so the future barrie plans made them obsolete , we can play table tennis all. Week over the. Reasond be hind the demise of certain in industries. But ill leave you with this. Are remaining coal seam would last for over 400 years. Clean coal burning tech is out there. Yet on the orders of. A goverment in the 80s. Deals were struc. In eastern europe and south amrica to import coal. Mined in south america by. Kids. Mined in eastern europe with the aid of huge subsides provide by. The eu , brand new coal beths were built on docks. To tranport the coal in land. A brand new train company set up. To. Tranport the coal. The jig saw. Slowy came together , A. Mine closer programe did indeed start under wilson Mines that were not vible were closed , yes unions reacted , the closers brought in by mac the knike were for a compleaty differant reason. The eastern european. Links were for future entry to the eu. The use of child labour was and is still sickening. But hey. We have wind farms now. Lol lol lol lol. You carnt see the wood for the trees. Springs tob mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 The family is making a undisclosed contribution to the funeral.going by that familys track record it will be a fiver.lol. Or a load of land mines of mark hope he can find his way got lost last time. Did he not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gaz 284 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 The quote im sick of hearing about Thatcher since she croaked from all over the place is "above all she was a true british patriot"...well why the fuk did she divide the nation so venomously to the extent that it can still be felt to this day!!,take this thread for instance! Fuk her! The working class were guilty of not knowing their place anymore and the cow was hellbent rectifying that....She might have looked after her own but decimated millions of lives and many area's up and down the nation without as much as a second thought....imo she was a vile woman who had agenda's that were to be carried out no matter the cost to people's lives. "Theres no such thing as society".....says it all really 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mick C. 229 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 The spiritual well being of the people has been compromised. Great leaders dont divide there people by creating unrepairable bad feeling amongst them. Comes to light on these threads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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