shaneg 2,578 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I was just on Facebook and there was a lad on it saying he had a 12month old bitch that was in season and he was wondering whether to breed her or run her on. No wonder there is so much sh*t about 1 Quote Link to post
shaunpowell 130 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 the boys are the same around my way pal, breeding bitches that havent even had a season,, not even proven workers there all in it for the coin mate,, shaun Quote Link to post
chrisbullx 2,541 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 This game is full of clowns like that mate it makes my piss boil!!! Atb cbx Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Commonplace nowadays mate - breeding from dogs and bitches that haven't had more than two winters below their belt...totally pisses me off...I know of one five year old bitch who has had - and this is no joke - 5 litters...bunch of f***ing tits... Spoke to another guy a while back whose dog had just sired a litter halfway through its second season...proud as punch too - fkn dick!!!!!! I've got a crackingly well bred Irish coursing greyhound bitch here whelped in March 2011- and this morning she was bang smack ready to stand for a dog...I've got two options here...1/2 x collie x grey 23 months old and an 18 month old alaunt x bull x grey - both fkn decent dogs who have been grafted hard so far and both have more than stepped up to the mark...but have they proved themselves enough to breed pups with?????? That's a big NO!!!! Woulda been the easiest thing in the world this morning to have whacked on of them big dogs over the bitch - 8 pups - advertise online - bit o bullshit - £200 a pop - nice easy £1600 - result Ah woulda known it wasn't quite right tho eh????? And that would've bothered me...and isn't part of the greater scheme of things... I'll wait, plenty time - no intentions of breeding the alaunt x bull x grey but desperate to have a 3/4 bred from my collie - he's done all I've asked and more and I think he's capable of being the best I've had...time will tell and time will also dictate whether he's gonna be worth breeding from...fingers are crossed big time on this but this ain't the time for this... Nothing worse than breeding pups from pups - sign of a poor dogman in my book...rant over... 9 Quote Link to post
shaneg 2,578 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I couldn't believe it when I seen it 1 Quote Link to post
dai dogs 1,404 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 There was a litter of bull cross pups on here only last year. The grandsire of the pups was only just over 3 years old. Quote Link to post
hillbilly boy 109 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 these sort of people shouldn't be allowed dogs this is why you have to do your research to make sure you get something decent Quote Link to post
jack68 628 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Commonplace nowadays mate - breeding from dogs and bitches that haven't had more than two winters below their belt...totally pisses me off...I know of one five year old bitch who has had - and this is no joke - 5 litters...bunch of f*****g tits... Spoke to another guy a while back whose dog had just sired a litter halfway through its second season...proud as punch too - fkn dick!!!!!! I've got a crackingly well bred Irish coursing greyhound bitch here whelped in March 2011- and this morning she was bang smack ready to stand for a dog...I've got two options here...1/2 x collie x grey 23 months old and an 18 month old alaunt x bull x grey - both fkn decent dogs who have been grafted hard so far and both have more than stepped up to the mark...but have they proved themselves enough to breed pups with?????? That's a big NO!!!! Woulda been the easiest thing in the world this morning to have whacked on of them big dogs over the bitch - 8 pups - advertise online - bit o bullshit - £200 a pop - nice easy £1600 - result Ah woulda known it wasn't quite right tho eh????? And that would've bothered me...and isn't part of the greater scheme of things... I'll wait, plenty time - no intentions of breeding the alaunt x bull x grey but desperate to have a 3/4 bred from my collie - he's done all I've asked and more and I think he's capable of being the best I've had...time will tell and time will also dictate whether he's gonna be worth breeding from...fiingers are crossed big time on this but this ain't the time for this... Nothing worse than breeding pups from pups - sign of a poor dogman in my book...rant over... I would not call that a rant but a well put together statement...atb 1 Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I was just on Facebook and there was a lad on it saying he had a 12month old bitch that was in season and he was wondering whether to breed her or run her on. No wonder there is so much sh*t about shane that young lad wanted to buy a lurcher pup of me a while ago but he did not get it as you could tell he only keeps them a wet day Quote Link to post
blackgreyhound 206 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 borderscott .i totally agree with you .if a dog or bitch is 6 .7 yrs old and has proven his or herself over a few seasons to be quality.and you need a replacemeant for the older dog to train up then by all means breed .when i bred my litters i only used quality greyhound blood and a sire i had complete faith in .i generally kept one back after closely watching them for a few weeks.the rest i usaully gave away as i was not intrested in makeing money out of them .tho i must admit several of my choices did not turn out as exspected but thats breeding for you .one litter of deerhound lurcherxgsd x greyhound .all of the bitches could stay forever yet all the dogs couldnt.twice i bred these two toghether and on both occasions the dogs couldnt stay but the bitches all did i have never figured out why.tho they say dogs take after the bitch which was pure greyhound and bitches take after the dog which was dlxgsd 1 Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 borderscott .i totally agree with you .if a dog or bitch is 6 .7 yrs old and has proven his or herself over a few seasons to be quality.and you need a replacemeant for the older dog to train up then by all means breed .when i bred my litters i only used quality greyhound blood and a sire i had complete faith in .i generally kept one back after closely watching them for a few weeks.the rest i usaully gave away as i was not intrested in makeing money out of them .tho i must admit several of my choices did not turn out as exspected but thats breeding for you .one litter of deerhound lurcherxgsd x greyhound .all of the bitches could stay forever yet all the dogs couldnt.twice i bred these two toghether and on both occasions the dogs couldnt stay but the bitches all did i have never figured out why.tho they say dogs take after the bitch which was pure greyhound and bitches take after the dog which was dlxgsd Hi Geoff - to be honest, we all know the whole lurcher breeding game is a lottery - but the chances of failure are lessened by breeding, as you say, from quality stock you have total faith in...certainly not from 12 month old puppies... Quote Link to post
blackgreyhound 206 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 borderscott. Quote Link to post
Banter 1,751 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 my dog was young when i bred him ...so Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I raced a litter brother and sister, pure greys, bitch stayed over 600, the dog struggled to make 275, that’s genes for you even the best plans of men and mice go astray at times. In general I would agree you shouldn't breed from youngsters but there is an exception and that is with stable genes such as pure greys with good breeding, see it with racers and racing horses where a mare or bitch from the right breeding is used as a brood to produce decent stuff. Many of the best in both racing scenes were produced this way. More difficult with lurchers as they have more room for the genes to throw the unexpected. So I wouldn't breed from a young lurcher but would be happy to breed from a young grey bitch that had a good background. 2 Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) The rescue center's are full of discarded lurchers bred on a whim Edited April 10, 2013 by C Hall Quote Link to post
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