Has Anyone Had This Problem With Terriers

[outandabout 27]

My 12 month JRT bitch does the same mate, good as gold until she catches sight of a bunny or gets a whiff of scent. Then she's a different dog.

 

She's coming along well and has great prey drive but I'd like a bit more control in case she runs out into a road.

[briggo88 2]

 

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

going to give this a go pal thanks

just been looking on ebay pal never used on of them just wondering if they all work or are some crap? just cause the price range differ thanks

[VITALIY13 142]

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

I did the same to my dog and it really worked!

[mushroom 12,897]

 

 

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

going to give this a go pal thanks

just been looking on ebay pal never used on of them just wondering if they all work or are some crap? just cause the price range differ thanks

Firstly I'm not an expert they work mate just make sure you get one that has a beep or vibrate function and start on the lowest setting.

 

Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort I strongly recommend back to basics first Your going to get the max results from using this collar when training not sporadically. Get him to assocciate the vibrate/beep with you recalling him, (do this in a setting where he doesn't usually bail on you) simple way is beep first then call him. If he knows you are recalling him but ignores give him a tingle. Once he's got it he'll associate everything together, you calling, the collar, that nasty feeling when he doesn't obey everything.

 

Remember if he has anything about him you will have to always use the collar when out walking as he'll know when he's wearing it and when he can say fuuck off :laugh:

 

Only use the shock when calm not screaming his name and zapping the litte fecker

 

Have a look on youtube there are some really good videos

 

ATB best Shroom

[briggo88 2]

My 12 month JRT bitch does the same mate, good as gold until she catches sight of a bunny or gets a whiff of scent. Then she's a different dog.

 

She's coming along well and has great prey drive but I'd like a bit more control in case she runs out into a road.

yh thats what he is like does as told all the time then next min bam he's off on one

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

Had a lurcher bitch that was a tramp for straying, got her as a young adult and whilst she had good recall she was very clever at breaking out and bringing herself off hunting the second you took your eye off her, she was very streetsmart, good with livestock the works... The biggest problem was she would often bring one of the others with her.. And the others werent streetsmart.. she was so charming with people it was hard to tell her off, a young lad begged me for her as he fell in love with her, she still brings herself off hunting and returns home with the odd bunny even now

[rob190364 2,594]

 

 

 

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

going to give this a go pal thanks

just been looking on ebay pal never used on of them just wondering if they all work or are some crap? just cause the price range differ thanks

Firstly I'm not an expert they work mate just make sure you get one that has a beep or vibrate function and start on the lowest setting.

 

Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort I strongly recommend back to basics first Your going to get the max results from using this collar when training not sporadically. Get him to assocciate the vibrate/beep with you recalling him, (do this in a setting where he doesn't usually bail on you) simple way is beep first then call him. If he knows you are recalling him but ignores give him a tingle. Once he's got it he'll associate everything together, you calling, the collar, that nasty feeling when he doesn't obey everything.

 

Remember if he has anything about him you will have to always use the collar when out walking as he'll know when he's wearing it and when he can say fuuck off :laugh:

 

Only use the shock when calm not screaming his name and zapping the litte fecker

 

Have a look on youtube there are some really good videos

 

ATB best Shroom

If he's running off following scents though isn't there a danger of you teaching him that when he follows a scent he's going to get a zap? just a thought.

[mushroom 12,897]

 

 

 

 

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

going to give this a go pal thanks

just been looking on ebay pal never used on of them just wondering if they all work or are some crap? just cause the price range differ thanks

Firstly I'm not an expert they work mate just make sure you get one that has a beep or vibrate function and start on the lowest setting.

 

Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort I strongly recommend back to basics first Your going to get the max results from using this collar when training not sporadically. Get him to assocciate the vibrate/beep with you recalling him, (do this in a setting where he doesn't usually bail on you) simple way is beep first then call him. If he knows you are recalling him but ignores give him a tingle. Once he's got it he'll associate everything together, you calling, the collar, that nasty feeling when he doesn't obey everything.

 

Remember if he has anything about him you will have to always use the collar when out walking as he'll know when he's wearing it and when he can say fuuck off :laugh:

 

Only use the shock when calm not screaming his name and zapping the litte fecker

 

Have a look on youtube there are some really good videos

 

ATB best Shroom

If he's running off following scents though isn't there a danger of you teaching him that when he follows a scent he's going to get a zap? just a thought.

Exactly why you train the dog with this away from scents The dog should basically understand that the vibrate is the same as being called and if not heeded uncorfortable feelings follow BEFORE going into the field. If you take the dog out with the collar before it has this understanding say out hunting and it fuucks off on a scent then exactly my previous point "Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort"

 

We did this with my friends dog who incidently still fuucks off wide when hunting but and here is the but if he presses the vibrate within the shortest time possible that dog is at his feet (he only ever zaps when he has sight of the dog and knows it is being a cnut) no need to zap the wee fecker it knows that it is being called back and no matter how interesting the scent is he has to return or he's getting frazzled

Edited April 11, 2013 by mushroom

[rob190364 2,594]

 

 

 

 

 

Back to basics mate.

 

Failing that the only thing I can think is a collar mate (aside from having him on the lead which should always be a first). Soon as he starts to fuuck off. Call him - nothing, call him again - vibrate if he don't get it shock the wee fecker and call him back normally. Never use the collar in anger and never get angry when you've shocked him you want the little sod to come belting back to ya with a wtf look on his face but looking for love

going to give this a go pal thanks

just been looking on ebay pal never used on of them just wondering if they all work or are some crap? just cause the price range differ thanks

Firstly I'm not an expert they work mate just make sure you get one that has a beep or vibrate function and start on the lowest setting.

 

Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort I strongly recommend back to basics first Your going to get the max results from using this collar when training not sporadically. Get him to assocciate the vibrate/beep with you recalling him, (do this in a setting where he doesn't usually bail on you) simple way is beep first then call him. If he knows you are recalling him but ignores give him a tingle. Once he's got it he'll associate everything together, you calling, the collar, that nasty feeling when he doesn't obey everything.

 

Remember if he has anything about him you will have to always use the collar when out walking as he'll know when he's wearing it and when he can say fuuck off :laugh:

 

Only use the shock when calm not screaming his name and zapping the litte fecker

 

Have a look on youtube there are some really good videos

 

ATB best Shroom

If he's running off following scents though isn't there a danger of you teaching him that when he follows a scent he's going to get a zap? just a thought.

Exactly why you train the dog with this away from scents The dog should basically understand that the vibrate is the same as being called and if not heeded uncorfortable feelings follow BEFORE going into the field. If you take the dog out with the collar before it has this understanding say out hunting and it fuucks off on a scent then exactly my previous point "Be warned incorrect use WILL fuuck up the dog this is a last resort"

 

We did this with my friends dog who incidently still fuucks off wide when hunting but and here is the but if he presses the vibrate within the shortest time possible that dog is at his feet (he only ever zaps when he has sight of the dog and knows it is being a cnut) no need to zap the wee fecker it knows that it is being called back and no matter how interesting the scent is he has to return or he's getting frazzled

 

I thought that's what he was saying though? the recall is good apart from at this one spot? to me it sounds like either it's on a scent or someone with a bitch in heat walks that route every day and he keeps picking up on it. If it was me, for my own sanity, I'd just start taking him for a walk elsewhere! My experience with dogs that run off but eventually turn up at home.....one day they'll run off never to be seen again and you'll never know what happened.

[alimac 882]

Collars IMO only have a place in about 0.5% of disobedience cases & 99.5% of owners haven't got a clue on how & when to use it. It's far from a magic fix as its been said its a very quick road to fecking a dog & it's relationship with its owner.. Good luck..

[tinytiger 828]

Collars IMO only have a place in about 0.5% of disobedience cases & 99.5% of owners haven't got a clue on how & when to use it. It's far from a magic fix as its been said its a very quick road to fecking a dog & it's relationship with its owner.. Good luck..

agree with you 100% alimac,electronic collars are for lazy fat fuckers who cant run-only confuse the dog-thinks its getting shocked for coming back-a check cord is much bettere i.m.o

[briggo88 2]

put a bell on him before to try and follow him to see what he was doing it for,so i got to the pond surrounding the pond its about 3 square mile of bush with paths running through it,after 5 mins off he goes so i ran after him straight to a warren he went he had a sniff about then he ran off down a path so went after him again then he went bk in to bush so i went in and he was chasing birds lol,lost site of him then for about 5 min shouted him few time and he come back so i gave him a treat and said good boy,on the way bk to the pond i let him off the lead he was walking about 15 meter in front then he went thew a gap in a fence so i went after him rabbit warrens again but ones i have never seen before :thumbs:i now no that he is trying to hunt on his own and the first time he did it a few month ago he chased deer out the bush so i was thinking he is looking for them and getting distracted by scents and birds on his way.it is good that he is doing his job but i would like to keep him in a safe distance away because when he went through the gap in the fence there is a railway track at the top of the embankment so going to defiantly get a e collar.dont think i could use a check cord in this area its full of brambles he would be getting talgled up every 5 min and what about if he goes on one when the ferrets are down a warren carnt go running after him then!

atb

briggo

[mushroom 12,897]

 

put a bell on him before to try and follow him to see what he was doing it for,so i got to the pond surrounding the pond its about 3 square mile of bush with paths running through it,after 5 mins off he goes so i ran after him straight to a warren he went he had a sniff about then he ran off down a path so went after him again then he went bk in to bush so i went in and he was chasing birds lol,lost site of him then for about 5 min shouted him few time and he come back so i gave him a treat and said good boy,on the way bk to the pond i let him off the lead he was walking about 15 meter in front then he went thew a gap in a fence so i went after him rabbit warrens again but ones i have never seen before :thumbs:i now no that he is trying to hunt on his own and the first time he did it a few month ago he chased deer out the bush so i was thinking he is looking for them and getting distracted by scents and birds on his way.it is good that he is doing his job but i would like to keep him in a safe distance away because when he went through the gap in the fence there is a railway track at the top of the embankment so going to defiantly get a e collar.dont think i could use a check cord in this area its full of brambles he would be getting talgled up every 5 min and what about if he goes on one when the ferrets are down a warren carnt go running after him then!

atb

briggo

If you do get an e-collar remember it is important that the Idea is to get him to associate the rumble/beep with a recall command not to see as a precursor to pain or a chastisement

[vixen 528]

Did you get the dog as a puppy? if so i would put his behaviour down to disobedience and not respecting you when you recall him, if you got him when he was a bit older then i'd say it's because he probably done it in his last home and came back whenever the heck he felt like it. If he were mine he'd be on a lead and never let off till i knew the swine was responding to me, i wouldn't be using collars of any kind, a dog should want to be with you and work with you not be forced into it through pain or bribed into it with food,pet hate of mine is people giving dogs titbits to get them to respond to them..... jmho

[mushroom 12,897]

Did you get the dog as a puppy? if so i would put his behaviour down to disobedience and not respecting you when you recall him, if you got him when he was a bit older then i'd say it's because he probably done it in his last home and came back whenever the heck he felt like it. If he were mine he'd be on a lead and never let off till i knew the swine was responding to me, i wouldn't be using collars of any kind, a dog should want to be with you and work with you not be forced into it through pain or bribed into it with food,pet hate of mine is people giving dogs titbits to get them to respond to them..... jmho

Some dogs respond to love/affection, some to food it's the reward that works. I've maintained throughout that the collar should be the last resort

 

I trained a staff to be a bloody good gundog through the use of heavy play and cheese