Stud Dog Spews

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

i seen 1 walk out start of season-he had a good rest-and stayed everytime he been tried after that-the lad that had him was digging the poor f****r and not resting him ENOUGH-if you had been there you may of known the real reason. give the 1 or 2 a go and cull the others if it helps you sleep at night.atb with what you decide mate.

[the_stig 6,614]

What about this.......stud dog DOESN'T spew because it hasn't had enough work to see if it will spew....... Would you still want a pup.....

was the dog a seasoned worker to warrent being a stud dog ............. very few 3/4 season dogs spew if they do whats the reason? .............if the dogs been doing the job for for few seasons dont worry about it crack on .. if the bitch works which it should or you would`nt be using it .and the dogs worked upto now you might drop lucky .. if a dog spews you have to question the circumstances . a dog thats gone from oct to now might not be a spewer and just sickened a rest a give them a go next season .. like i say circumstances

[rexdigger 54]

the problem wih dogs is like this more than half the dogs about might be dug to once a week once a month or even less theres nothing to say that they dont do the job when taken out but when the dog has to up its game when worked more often thats when the problems occur ie walking or not putting in a full shift the only way to tell if the dog will spew is give it oppurtunity to spew but then again not many folk are of that opinion, also too many people too quick to dig soon as the dog settles instead of leaving it to do its job no point fooling yourselves or anyone else

 

on the other hand theres nothing to say the pups wont work but to what standard is a different question imo

[dytkos 17,784]

TBH, how many lads on here dig one dog pretty much every week throughout the season?

Several do I know, but not as many as sell pups from "guaranteed" parents.

 

Everybody has "Top Class" pups for sale, but who decides that they are "Top Class"?

 

Cheers, D.

[morton 5,368]

TBH, how many lads on here dig one dog pretty much every week throughout the season?

Several do I know, but not as many as sell pups from "guaranteed" parents.

 

Everybody has "Top Class" pups for sale, but who decides that they are "Top Class"?

 

Cheers, D.

Not many have top class pups,and the ones who have rarely have to sell them,they are gifted into like minded kennels.Often the top grade pups for sale are seldom that?.

[J Darcy 5,871]

TBH, how many lads on here dig one dog pretty much every week throughout the season?

Several do I know, but not as many as sell pups from "guaranteed" parents.

 

Everybody has "Top Class" pups for sale, but who decides that they are "Top Class"?

 

Cheers, D.

The real 'top class' pups aren't for sale...they're free.... :thumbs:

[nancy 275]

TBH, how many lads on here dig one dog pretty much every week throughout the season?

Several do I know, but not as many as sell pups from "guaranteed" parents.

 

Everybody has "Top Class" pups for sale, but who decides that they are "Top Class"?

 

Cheers, D.depends how hard the dog is? a bayer can be dug every other day but a hard dog dif story the dog could have been ruined by the owner only so much an animal can take jmo

[WEDGEY 753]

COME ON LADS THAT DOG MITE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE JUST NO ONE HAD SEEN IT,,,, AS SAID A 3 OR 4 SEASON DOGS SHOULDN'T COME OFF....IF THAT WERE MY BITCH LINE BRED TO THAT DOG OR NOT THEM PUPS WOULD BE BINNED, AND THAT DOG SHOULDN'T HAVE A RIGHT TO BE CALLED A STUD DOG..

[Nick 14]

If the dad would quith I would cull the whole litter. If it was 2 to 3 weeks after the mating you can give the bitch a injection so all pups would be driven out.

[THE DEALER! 77]

in life and in dogs everyone has different standards. choosing your stud dog is the most important decision you will have to make if you want to breed working terriers, and is of great significance to the future of your yard. The first thing you should go for in a stud dog is for a stud dog that has produced good off spring and if possible seen them dug .In your situation you need to find out has your stud dog produced any off springs that are been dug. I myself know of dogs that quit but were good producers.i know of guys that used studs dogs that later quit, and guys went home and put to sleep the pups off the dog that quit. ( i myself have done this once ). Why did i do this you may ask ? there is no known formula for breeding good dogs, its luck and numbers bred from the best of stock !! As these pups get older you will always have that little bit of doubt in your mind about them,and you may hang on to them longer than what you should just to prove you made the correct decision in keeping these pups and who knows they may be top class workers. Or you could start off your quest for breeding a good working terrier next time your bitch comes in heat ( i hope your bitch has all the qualitys you expect to see in a good working bitch) and go to a good producing dog thats retired and earned his retirement, then it all luck and numbers again........but this time from quality stock !! best of luck with what you choose to do,i am using a family members account posting this ( P.I.K.E.Y).

[auldboy 2]

lads first of the stud dog you going to use should have at least 5 or 6 good consistent seasons done and should always be able to get up close and kill his fox.. so him jacking in doesnt come into question.. also the bitch used has to be top class.. good finder .able to work and dig on and handle and stay until dug to... no excuses lads.. get the basics right and you breed good honest stock.. to many using poor 14 to 15 month old stud dogs with nothing done and worse still using poor bitches..loads of shite being bred and not hard to get it right if you stick to the basics.. and travel lads . dont take the local dog all the time.. and see the stud dog work or the bitch if you providing the stud dog.. if they not good enough be honest with yourself..

lowry your full off shit you have been breeding shit stock since ya went to Ireland and selling pups for 150 a pop off mediocre stock im sure every stud dog you used was five or six year old

Edited April 7, 2013 by auldboy

[dytkos 17,784]

in life and in dogs everyone has different standards. choosing your stud dog is the most important decision you will have to make if you want to breed working terriers, and is of great significance to the future of your yard. The first thing you should go for in a stud dog is for a stud dog that has produced good off spring and if possible seen them dug .In your situation you need to find out has your stud dog produced any off springs that are been dug. I myself know of dogs that quit but were good producers.i know of guys that used studs dogs that later quit, and guys went home and put to sleep the pups off the dog that quit. ( i myself have done this once ). Why did i do this you may ask ? there is no known formula for breeding good dogs, its luck and numbers bred from the best of stock !! As these pups get older you will always have that little bit of doubt in your mind about them,and you may hang on to them longer than what you should just to prove you made the correct decision in keeping these pups and who knows they may be top class workers. Or you could start off your quest for breeding a good working terrier next time your bitch comes in heat ( i hope your bitch has all the qualitys you expect to see in a good working bitch) and go to a good producing dog thats retired and earned his retirement, then it all luck and numbers again........but this time from quality stock !! best of luck with what you choose to do,i am using a family members account posting this ( P.I.K.E.Y).

 

 

The downside of that is that the proportion of people who do that are very much in the minority

 

Cheers, D.

[UcanRUNbutUcantHIDE 190]

Scenario, you use a stud dog on your bitch, and the dog spews a week or 2 later. Your bitch is in pup so what do you do?

you get my number and ring me next time if anyone has proven bitches to line I'v got good hard proven stock mite not be the best in the world but don't fail me. Any trial welcome

[gasman 53]

? you get my number and ring me next time if anyone has proven bitches to line I'v got good hard proven stock mite not be the best in the world but don't fail me. Any trial welcome. bitch ain't mine just some one I know off that used a dog that spewed a couple of weeks after the mating, just wanted to see what some of you on here would do if you we're in the same predicament.

[Tommy pepper 222]

gasman i whuld look at the parents grand parents and grt grand parents of the mentiond stud dog and see what sort of famlie/line he came from if thats possible ,, if they all check out good i whuld take my chances with the pups myself although i whuldent pass any out to other lads