rob284 1,682 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 some ppl say whippets then show a 23 inch dog. most of em will have a bit of grey in em Link to post
Neoleaver 55 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. I would be a little upset if my dog called off quarry when he had risen it. And he's not an all out coursing type, he's too slow Who said there was a chainaw about? It's just one of those things, dog works the woods / cover, a way off. You hear a commotion, you get there and there is a dog and a dead fox. These things happen. Once again no one has EVER said it was better or as good as a purpose bred lurcher., Round and round we go 2 Link to post
csd_88 138 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I struggle to understand this ideation bloke he talks that much shit i carnt ever get passed his first line, comes accros as a know it all to me. No doubt he'll chat some more shit after reading this as he dont know how to shut up, gets very boring and repetitive. Link to post
Neoleaver 55 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. I would be a little upset if my dog called off quarry when he had risen it. And he's not an all out coursing type, he's too slow Who said there was a chainaw about? It's just one of those things, dog works the woods / cover, a way off. You hear a commotion, you get there and there is a dog and a dead fox. These things happen. Once again no one has EVER said it was better or as good as a purpose bred lurcher., Round and round we go Mate you obviously just enjoy a good argument, if you wanna go out with a dog that wont recall, under any given circumstance, that's up to you. Personally ive never took a dog out to work without puttin the time in that takes for it to know and trust that every command you make has to be followed. If all you've ever worked is point and shoot types you wont even know the standard I'm talkin about is possible. Dya ever wonder why the rescue centres are full of dogs found wandering the fields? And what feckin use is a dog hunting up so far ahead you cant react, you might as well slip it from your back door and wait for it to fetch summat back. The thread as put up asking for opinions, I gave mine, you dont agree with it, fair play It wont be keeping me awake at night bud. edit: I'd be dissappointed too if my dog had jacked of its own accord, I'd be even more dissapointed if it did'nt jack when commanded too. Shouln't even be off lead never mind workin around stock, wire, machines, roads, tree huggers wi mobiles, Edited April 5, 2013 by Neoleaver Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I struggle to understand this ideation bloke he talks that much shit i carnt ever get passed his first line, comes accros as a know it all to me. No doubt he'll chat some more shit after reading this as he dont know how to shut up, gets very boring and repetitive. It's funny mate, i almost talk as much shit as that Fence Hopper lad? Remember, the one with the blue whippet . . . . that he said could handle a fox on it's own? Bet you can remember him aye? Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. I would be a little upset if my dog called off quarry when he had risen it. And he's not an all out coursing type, he's too slow Who said there was a chainaw about? It's just one of those things, dog works the woods / cover, a way off. You hear a commotion, you get there and there is a dog and a dead fox. These things happen. Once again no one has EVER said it was better or as good as a purpose bred lurcher., Round and round we go Mate you obviously just enjoy a good argument, if you wanna go out with a dog that wont recall, under any given circumstance, that's up to you. Personally ive never took a dog out to work without puttin the time in that takes for it to know and trust that every command you make has to be followed. If all you've ever worked is point and shoot types you wont even know the standard I'm talkin about is possible. Dya ever wonder why the rescue centres are full of dogs found wandering the fields? And what feckin use is a dog hunting up so far ahead you cant react, you might as well slip it from your back door and wait for it to fetch summat back. The thread as put up asking for opinions, I gave mine, you dont agree with it, fair play It wont be keeping me awake at night bud. Yes i do enjoy a good debate at times. Well done for having a dog you can call off quarry, that's pretty impressive, but i don't think its ths standard. As for point and shoot types, that's really not me mate, and if you knew me. . . . you would really know that. As for what use is a dog hunting up out of sight so you can't react, i assume you just hunt nice, flat open fields, and all the game, hides around your feet? Unfortunatly where we are, the dogs need to range a bit, and are often out of sight (i.e forestry blocks, very rough undulating land etc) and if all of the training is there so you know its 100% stock broken, and know it will come back when you sound the return (unless engaged in a pursuit or a kill), and you are on permission . . . . i don't see the problem? If i could let my dog out te back door and think he'd come back with game, i probably would. As for me not agreeing with your argument, i'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just laughing at how folk can't understand the original question. Can it happen. It can. End of. Whether it should, it's fair, or if there are better dogs for the job (of course there are!) . . . . . well, they weren't the question. Not meaning to sound rude or owt mate, just one of those things. 1 Link to post
Neoleaver 55 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. I would be a little upset if my dog called off quarry when he had risen it. And he's not an all out coursing type, he's too slow Who said there was a chainaw about? It's just one of those things, dog works the woods / cover, a way off. You hear a commotion, you get there and there is a dog and a dead fox. These things happen. Once again no one has EVER said it was better or as good as a purpose bred lurcher., Round and round we go Mate you obviously just enjoy a good argument, if you wanna go out with a dog that wont recall, under any given circumstance, that's up to you. Personally ive never took a dog out to work without puttin the time in that takes for it to know and trust that every command you make has to be followed. If all you've ever worked is point and shoot types you wont even know the standard I'm talkin about is possible. Dya ever wonder why the rescue centres are full of dogs found wandering the fields? And what feckin use is a dog hunting up so far ahead you cant react, you might as well slip it from your back door and wait for it to fetch summat back. The thread as put up asking for opinions, I gave mine, you dont agree with it, fair play It wont be keeping me awake at night bud. Yes i do enjoy a good debate at times. Well done for having a dog you can call off quarry, that's pretty impressive, but i don't think its ths standard. As for point and shoot types, that's really not me mate, and if you knew me. . . . you would really know that. As for what use is a dog hunting up out of sight so you can't react, i assume you just hunt nice, flat open fields, and all the game, hides around your feet? Unfortunatly where we are, the dogs need to range a bit, and are often out of sight (i.e forestry blocks, very rough undulating land etc) and if all of the training is there so you know its 100% stock broken, and know it will come back when you sound the return (unless engaged in a pursuit or a kill), and you are on permission . . . . i don't see the problem? If i could let my dog out te back door and think he'd come back with game, i probably would. As for me not agreeing with your argument, i'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just laughing at how folk can't understand the original question. Can it happen. It can. End of. Whether it should, it's fair, or if there are better dogs for the job (of course there are!) . . . . . well, they weren't the question. Not meaning to sound rude or owt mate, just one of those things. f all your saying is a Whippet can kill a fox (not any whippet - any fox) then I dont think anyone on here has dissagreed with you mate, so what's the problem? If a situation came up where the the fox was dead by the time you got there, again this could happen, bad day for foxy, probly not a great day for whippet either. Would I go out hoping for this scenario to play out with a single Whippet (somewhere this was legal)? absolutely no, I wouldn't ask or expect it to do that job (tho no doubt there's a few out there could occasionally rise to that challenge....occasionally) Might be me..genuinely...but I'm no sure exactly what point you are making. Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 All these folk saying it's not fair, you shouldnt do it, get a proper tool for the job etc. How do you stop them hunting them in the day? I get that you can choose not to go out with the lamp looking for them and slipping on them. But if you walk/run/mooch about with your dog regularly, in the countryside, then the little feckers will sooner or later come across one, or it should do anyway. And then what? D'ya ask it nicely not to, because it might get hurt? It's just one of those things. Exactly why a well trained dog that will break off and recall, is much more useful to a moocher than an 'all or nothing' coursing type (nowt against em just a specialist dog rather than an allrounder generally) For me, its a big job fer a whippet. You could fell a tree with a Hatchet, but why would you if theres chainsaws about. Theres enough of em brave enough an quick enough but its never gonna be as clean and quick as summat bred for purpose. The Whippet was bred for the rabbiting and racing niche, unfair to ask more. I would be a little upset if my dog called off quarry when he had risen it. And he's not an all out coursing type, he's too slow Who said there was a chainaw about? It's just one of those things, dog works the woods / cover, a way off. You hear a commotion, you get there and there is a dog and a dead fox. These things happen. Once again no one has EVER said it was better or as good as a purpose bred lurcher., Round and round we go Mate you obviously just enjoy a good argument, if you wanna go out with a dog that wont recall, under any given circumstance, that's up to you. Personally ive never took a dog out to work without puttin the time in that takes for it to know and trust that every command you make has to be followed. If all you've ever worked is point and shoot types you wont even know the standard I'm talkin about is possible. Dya ever wonder why the rescue centres are full of dogs found wandering the fields? And what feckin use is a dog hunting up so far ahead you cant react, you might as well slip it from your back door and wait for it to fetch summat back. The thread as put up asking for opinions, I gave mine, you dont agree with it, fair play It wont be keeping me awake at night bud. Yes i do enjoy a good debate at times. Well done for having a dog you can call off quarry, that's pretty impressive, but i don't think its ths standard. As for point and shoot types, that's really not me mate, and if you knew me. . . . you would really know that. As for what use is a dog hunting up out of sight so you can't react, i assume you just hunt nice, flat open fields, and all the game, hides around your feet? Unfortunatly where we are, the dogs need to range a bit, and are often out of sight (i.e forestry blocks, very rough undulating land etc) and if all of the training is there so you know its 100% stock broken, and know it will come back when you sound the return (unless engaged in a pursuit or a kill), and you are on permission . . . . i don't see the problem? If i could let my dog out te back door and think he'd come back with game, i probably would. As for me not agreeing with your argument, i'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just laughing at how folk can't understand the original question. Can it happen. It can. End of. Whether it should, it's fair, or if there are better dogs for the job (of course there are!) . . . . . well, they weren't the question. Not meaning to sound rude or owt mate, just one of those things. f all your saying is a Whippet can kill a fox (not any whippet - any fox) then I dont think anyone on here has dissagreed with you mate, so what's the problem? If a situation came up where the the fox was dead by the time you got there, again this could happen, bad day for foxy, probly not a great day for whippet either. Would I go out hoping for this scenario to play out with a single Whippet (somewhere this was legal)? absolutely no, I wouldn't ask or expect it to do that job (tho no doubt there's a few out there could occasionally rise to that challenge....occasionally) Might be me..genuinely...but I'm no sure exactly what point you are making. Well the only reason i was arguing was that i believe when it was suggested, it was said to be 'bollocks' and like 'hitting a rhino with a stick'. . . . . and that a good fox would 'ruin' / 'hospitalise' a whippet. Which i thought was daft. My only point was that it was possible, and i wasn't talking bollocks. Also, there is a subtext which you may have missed, the guy saying the above, under a previous user name, would claim that his whippet could kill a fox. atb. 1 Link to post
csd_88 138 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I struggle to understand this ideation bloke he talks that much shit i carnt ever get passed his first line, comes accros as a know it all to me. No doubt he'll chat some more shit after reading this as he dont know how to shut up, gets very boring and repetitive. It's funny mate, i almost talk as much shit as that Fence Hopper lad? Remember, the one with the blue whippet . . . . that he said could handle a fox on it's own? Bet you can remember him aye? Nope dont sound familiar! As said chat some more rubbish. Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Finding a single handed whippet would be like finding rockin horse shit. Usually find it towards the rear on a British Rocking Horse,at the front on an American one. Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) some ppl say whippets then show a 23 inch dog. most of em will have a bit of grey in emNot a question of..... How much greyhound is in that dog..... Usually a case of... How much whippet is in that dog at the racing Edited April 5, 2013 by Blue Pocket Rocket Link to post
crazyfrog 23 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I struggle to understand this ideation bloke he talks that much shit i carnt ever get passed his first line, comes accros as a know it all to me. No doubt he'll chat some more shit after reading this as he dont know how to shut up, gets very boring and repetitive. It's funny mate, i almost talk as much shit as that Fence Hopper lad? Remember, the one with the blue whippet . . . . that he said could handle a fox on it's own? Bet you can remember him aye? Nope dont sound familiar! As said chat some more rubbish. don,t tell lies alan,it is you and you did talk a lot about your whippet taking fox,welcome back fence hopper Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Finding a single handed whippet would be like finding rockin horse shit. Usually find it towards the rear on a British Rocking Horse,at the front on an American one. WOW! f****n original. Try again f**k face! 1 Link to post
csd_88 138 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Never owned a whippet and never will tbh, alb ladies 1 Link to post
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