Anyone Using Setters?

[ROB.BOB 21]

as the title says.
I've seen them working at trials, seen the german pointers at grouse beating many times, even seen an english pointer, but never a setter. i understand theyr'e not 'meant' for beating but doesn't mean no body uses them for such.
I'd like to hear what people have to say.

Edited March 31, 2013 by ROB.BOB

[ROB.BOB 21]

thanks wideboy.
I wonder how they'd do at grouse beating if you weren't bothered about the sett, although that defets the point of having a setter! ha. I like the Irish, English setters if you get me? quite alot smaller than the english bred english setters.

[harvey d 43]

i have owned and worked english, irish and gordon but not for beating, idon,t know what you mean by the size of the irish english ?

[ROB.BOB 21]

i have owned and worked english, irish and gordon but not for beating, idon,t know what you mean by the size of the irish english ?

When I've been to pointer & setter trials, it was pointed out to me by a trialer and then i noticed what he meant, but the english setters that where from ireland (on the day anyway maybe not overall) where noticeable smaller than the one's from england and scotland.

 

How did you find your setters where to train?

[harvey d 43]

they are all different i have had good ones in the three breeds also small ones and big in same litter as for training. you get variation in same litter also, i only have english now , i got my first english from ireland 1983 ATB

[stroller 341]

i have seen setters work with peregrines and they covered huge distances looking for birds much more than a hpr breed would normally do. But on a keepered moor with a high density of birds they wouldnt have to go so far and if brought up to work closer then im sure they would.

[ROB.BOB 21]

Harvey d, do you have any pictures of your dogs you could post? I'd like to see them.

Edited April 1, 2013 by ROB.BOB

[harvey d 43]

Harvey d, do you have any pictures of your dogs you could post? I'd like to see them.

i have pictures , would'nt know how to put them on here

[harvey d 43]

i have seen setters work with peregrines and they covered huge distances looking for birds much more than a hpr breed would normally do. But on a keepered moor with a high density of birds they wouldnt have to go so far and if brought up to work closer then im sure they would.

you could get the right one to hunt close, not my type i rather one getting out as long as i can see it and keep it under control ATB

[dee mac 579]

is the idea of the setters there ability to cover lots of ground by free ranging then when they come on game to slow right down then set allowing for the guns then to make there way to the dog on big open hills them and the english pointers save a lot of leg work but for beating rough shooting i think they d be wasted or maybe not ,as i ve never owned one i ve become very interested in the point setting breeds lately after working with spaniels from i started shooting many years ago plus i know two experienced pointer men and the best rough shooting dog one of them ever seen he said was an irish setter springer cross many years ago and the other said best he seen was a young irish setter that he lost to distemper at just over two year old but in the short time he hunted with it says it gave him the education of his life !

[Des O'Neile 6]

Gerald Devine's Tim, Int.F.T.Ch. Gardenfield Warrior, English Setter dog. The chances are that if you saw "Irish" English Setters at trials on the mainland that they were Gerald's. The irony is that very few of them have much "Irish" blood in them. When Jonnny Geoghegan imported what became Ir.F.T.Ch Storeskars G'Snorre from Norway he was such a success he and his progeny were used extensively at stud. Snorre pups were of a type and a bit smaller than the dogs on the mainland. Then relatively recently several setters were imported from europe and they are if anything smaller again though not to an exaggerated degree. While the only thing bettter than a good small one is a good big one if they are good enough thay are nearly always big enough.

[stroller 341]

That is one stunning dog,