johnny boy68 11,726 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I get the feeling that blackgreyhound is a little breed blind. Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 personally i feel this thread may have been put togetha for a feel of members thoughts etc , and wow some god honest to good coments . Iam in posesion ofaline bred sheperd xs no slab sided good strong chest broad back decent fast twitch muscle on hind quarters, would i say she be faster than a saluki xs of good quality not a cat in hells chance , but they arentall good quality lots a rubbish out there in this xs , thre be thosethat use the saluki xs for other jobs because they were rubish for what theyre bred for . running lets say in the new forest on given game could form a different oppinion to some as far as travellinn at speed through different terrain . runing the long ear nothing can or will compare to the hound bred in these isles for that very job match running . atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 personally i feel this thread may have been put togetha for a feel of members thoughts etc , and wow some god honest to good coments . Iam in posesion ofaline bred sheperd xs no slab sided good strong chest broad back decent fast twitch muscle on hind quarters, would i say she be faster than a saluki xs of good quality not a cat in hells chance , but they arentall good quality lots a rubbish out there in this xs , thre be thosethat use the saluki xs for other jobs because they were rubish for what theyre bred for . running lets say in the new forest on given game could form a different oppinion to some as far as travellinn at speed through different terrain . runing the long ear nothing can or will compare to the hound bred in these isles for that very job match running . atb bunnys. Personally I think you haven't read the topic title!!! As the title states Blackgreyhound is telling us "Why GSDXG & MALXG will be faster than a Saluki x!!!! Clue is in the words "why" and "will be faster"...personally I feel that even a mediocre to goodish saluki x will be quicker/faster that any GSD or MAL X Grey...and unless my eyes are playing tricks or I'm hallucinating most of the GSD first Xs I've seen on here in the past few weeks are well described as slab sided...tell u what u could do though Bunnys - give me the lowdown/your take on "decent fast twitch muscles", what this means and how it equates to performance...seen this "fast twitch" term bandied about regularly recently and on GSD/MAL X please enlighten??? Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 borderscotty you may be wrong and misread the theories of black gryhound , but fast twitch in the grey is high sprinter if thy need the knowledge google it .all will beome clear for thee , i myself may not be able to get it across thee atb bunnys Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 borderscotty you may be wrong and misread the theories of black gryhound , but fast twitch in the grey is high sprinter if thy need the knowledge google it .all will beome clear for thee , i myself may not be able to get it across thee atb bunnys Your words and explanations (or lack of them) speak volumes mate...f***ing priceless...but predictable... 2 Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 borderscotty you may be wrong and misread the theories of black gryhound , but fast twitch in the grey is high sprinter if thy need the knowledge google it .all will beome clear for thee , i myself may not be able to get it across thee atb bunnys You shouldnt need to be googling anything to do with why one dog is faster. Get out graft your wonderdogs and let them speak for themselves. If they are half as special as you lads are making out they will get talked about. All the best 1 Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Blackgreyhound if these wonderdogs are as good as you make out next winter come to my land with my mediocre dog qnd we will see ? 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,969 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Regards speed (no) they wont be as fast as as saluki xs , and regards at what salukixs are good at (daytime hares) salukixs are the best fact . But regards as lamping dog taking big game gsd xgreys are very good dogs, they have great stamina, can+ will run all night long if need be.As said before ive spoke to Steve Barton few times and he had this x in the 70s and still workd them, on (wild pigs,feralcats,deer,rabbits,foxes.) hares (arnt) on the list (are they) ?? .i carnt speak of my pup beacuse he is to young as yet, but hs as done very well so far had (only) 5 runs and caught 4 rabbits, and even as 7 1/2 month old pup got very good stamina, will go 4 hours in a night no prob .! As long as does what this x were known for i will be more than happy, and what ive seen looking quite good.Ive always said i only wanted somthing with bit more tenacity than a colliex grey, time will tell .? Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 borderscotty you may be wrong and misread the theories of black gryhound , but fast twitch in the grey is high sprinter if thy need the knowledge google it .all will beome clear for thee , i myself may not be able to get it across thee atb bunnys You shouldnt need to be googling anything to do with why one dog is faster. Get out graft your wonderdogs and let them speak for themselves. If they are half as special as you lads are making out they will get talked about. All the best Seriously mate - I won't be needing to google nothing...just having an opinion...and mines certainly ain't wonderdogs and will never ever be spoken about in those terms but they do fill the freezer with a variety of game and we've eaten well this winter and will continue (thanks to the inventor of the deep freeze) to do so until next winter... Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 ll ya nay googled it then and priceless well tats a word often used with out the thought of the meaning , i aye gonna get in to a slagging of wwords with thee my education came from te school of life not to great with the full meaning of some words but like as said bordersty oppinions are like ause oles we all have one hs for any medeoce saluki xs can be quicker faster than anytype is joke we had plenty salukixs and 2 from east lothian one cudna catch august rabbits t wanquick or fast enough atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Regards speed (no) they wont be as fast as as saluki xs , and regards at what salukixs are good at (daytime hares) salukixs are the best fact . But regards as lamping dog taking big game gsd xgreys are very good dogs, they have great stamina, can+ will run all night long if need be.As said before ive spoke to Steve Barton few times and he had this x in the 70s and still workd them, on (wild pigs,feralcats,deer,rabbits,foxes.) hares (arnt) on the list (are they) ?? .i carnt speak of my pup beacuse he is to young as yet, but hs as done very well so far had (only) 5 runs and caught 4 rabbits, and even as 7 1/2 month old pup got very good stamina, will go 4 hours in a night no prob .! As long as does what this x were known for i will be more than happy, and what ive seen looking quite good.Ive always said i only wanted somthing with bit more tenacity than a colliex grey, time will tell .? Bird dont get me wrong i like you and i like your pup. But what is annoying is all these threads about GSD crosses and alot of people making them out to be something special. Ive worked with some brilliant shepherds and have owned a couple that were useful. At one point i was even thinking of going down the malinoi x greyhound route. But after seeing this cross work i decided that they have nothing you cant get from other dogs. Just my opinion. Also mate what do you regard as tenacity ? And do you want it directed at people quarry or both ? Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 borderscotty you may be wrong and misread the theories of black gryhound , but fast twitch in the grey is high sprinter if thy need the knowledge google it .all will beome clear for thee , i myself may not be able to get it across thee atb bunnys You shouldnt need to be googling anything to do with why one dog is faster. Get out graft your wonderdogs and let them speak for themselves. If they are half as special as you lads are making out they will get talked about. All the bestSeriously mate - I won't be needing to google nothing...just having an opinion...and mines certainly ain't wonderdogs and will never ever be spoken about in those terms but they do fill the freezer with a variety of game and we've eaten well this winter and will continue (thanks to the inventor of the deep freeze) to do so until next winter... Wasnt aimed at you mate. Atb Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 i thought tenacity was some one who rented a house in the city lol 1 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 ll ya nay googled it then and priceless well tats a word often used with out the thought of the meaning , i aye gonna get in to a slagging of wwords with thee my education came from te school of life not to great with the full meaning of some words but like as said bordersty oppinions are like ause oles we all have one hs for any medeoce saluki xs can be quicker faster than anytype is joke we had plenty salukixs and 2 from east lothian one cudna catch august rabbits t wanquick or fast enough atb bunnys. ps it may have add morejoy in scotland Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Regards speed (no) they wont be as fast as as saluki xs , and regards at what salukixs are good at (daytime hares) salukixs are the best fact . But regards as lamping dog taking big game gsd xgreys are very good dogs, they have great stamina, can+ will run all night long if need be.As said before ive spoke to Steve Barton few times and he had this x in the 70s and still workd them, on (wild pigs,feralcats,deer,rabbits,foxes.) hares (arnt) on the list (are they) ?? .i carnt speak of my pup beacuse he is to young as yet, but hs as done very well so far had (only) 5 runs and caught 4 rabbits, and even as 7 1/2 month old pup got very good stamina, will go 4 hours in a night no prob .! As long as does what this x were known for i will be more than happy, and what ive seen looking quite good.Ive always said i only wanted somthing with bit more tenacity than a colliex grey, time will tell .? And that might be the problem - what a dog/breed or cross was known for certainly doesn't mean it'll be suitable nowadays...numerous breeds of dogs were "known" for working ability in decades gone but a lot of the inherent working qualities have been purposely discarded to suit other needs...and sadly fashions...??? And as far as tenacity is concerned surely that depends on the collie x grey though? No? Certainly not the case that you are going to have a dog with more tenacity just because you've chosen a gsdxg over a collie x ???. I've a first x collie/grey here at the minute with bags of guts, fire and balls - as brave as I have seen and certainly enough to match my alaunt x bull x grey...yeah, the collie x lacks some of the physical attributes of the alaunt x bull x grey which you'd expect but he's no less fiery, gutsy and brave... Quote Link to post
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