Me, The Gun, Scope Or Pellets?

[bushing lad 114]

ive been using my dads old air rifle at the moment and ime not having a great time at all. Its a gas ram theoben sirocco 177 nearly 30 years old and when ive been zeroing it the pellet placement is ridiculous. i only zero from about 20 yards and at that distance it should be spot on. However it isnt. Ive seen people on here with groupings that can be covered by a 1p coin at over 30 yards but mine cant be coverd by a bloody tuna tin. now i zero of a pillow case full of sand so its very stable and when i decide whether i need to adust the scope i will do accordingly. usually the 1st shot at a target after it has been zeroed is spot on, but after that theyre going an inch to the left, right, up, down etc. no matter what i try i just cant get a consistent grouping. ive tried holding the gun in differnt ways- doesnt work. lower and higher magnification on the scope- doesnt work. the pellets that ime using are the 177 bulldogs by lanes(not the ones i would of gone for but the shop had just these) and ive used others and its the same thing. so ide just like to know if anyone can shed any light why my pellet groupings are so bad. thanks.

[woodcote1 88]

Get some decent pellets for starters!!

[walshie 2,804]

Resting a springer (yes I know it's a gas-ram) can cause erratic results. And yes, get some new pellets.

[jw74 27]

definatley change the pellets. if resting try resting your hand on the sandbag and rest the rifle on your hand,but dont grip the fore hand just let it rest.good luck

[andyfr1968 772]

From what you've said (as above) get some decent pellets for starters.

 

Resting on a sandbag's not the best way with any type of springer, it's too hard and it will make the rifle bounce around upon firing. As has been said, at least rest the rifle gently in your hand without gripping it and rest it gently in your shoulder. Siroccos are pretty hold sensative at the best of times so it's vital that the gun can recoil in it's own way consistantly with every shot.

 

Good luck!!

[bwfc 164]

As already stated you must buy some decent pellets,go for Air Arms Diablo as i have found them to be spot on in 99% of rifles.As an example i bought some rws hobbies as they were cheap,i hadnt tried them and they looked a very well made clean pellet.My HW100 was zeroed at 30 yards and was almost pellet on pellet,i changed to the hobbies fired off 14 shots and they were all 5 inches below bull.Changed back to Diablos and it was spot on.The Theoben Sirocco was/is a good rifle and when you start seeing results youll be pleased im sure!.

[silentshot1 206]

As all have said above, use the palm of your hand to rest the gun on, on top of the sandbag and get some decent pellets. RWS Superdomes work brilliantly in my HW 77 and are a bargain.... Oh, and don't forget to clean the barrel before using the new pellets!

[Phantom 631]

Used Lanes Bulldogs once (come on we all have to learn )

 

Half the time the heads left the skirts somewhere in the barrel, okay for can bashing in a Gat I suppose at 5 feet.

 

Other than the pellets I'm with Andy

 

Tony

[Bluebell h 69]

Get sum desent pellets [BANNED TEXT] clean the barrel and spray the pellets with pellet lube if that don't work take it back to ur dad and poke him in the eye ith it lol

[bushing lad 114]

thanks for the replies lads. i had an inkling it mite be the pellets, like i said i didnt want the bulldogs i was after some accupels. ile try some better qualilty pellets and hopefully ile start to get better results.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Read this....

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/182473-spring-air-rifle-shooting/

 

And this!

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/187884-prone-position-stability/

Get some good pellets, do as he says and I bet your shooting improves!

[bushing lad 114]

ime looking at some air arms diablo pellets and theres two different sizes 4.51mm and 4.52mm so is there any difference apart from size between them?

[Phantom 631]

Some guns like a wider head or skirt. They actually come in 5.50 as well

[M47KS_M4N_CH71S 50]

ime looking at some air arms diablo pellets and theres two different sizes 4.51mm and 4.52mm so is there any difference apart from size between them?

In some rifles yes and some no, depends on your barrel pal, buy both and see, if not and you just want to try some I've odered a tin of both and they come tomorrow, pm me your address i will post you some of each

 

Atb

Chris

[bushing lad 114]

 

ime looking at some air arms diablo pellets and theres two different sizes 4.51mm and 4.52mm so is there any difference apart from size between them?

In some rifles yes and some no, depends on your barrel pal, buy both and see, if not and you just want to try some I've odered a tin of both and they come tomorrow, pm me your address i will post you some of each

 

Atb

Chris

 

 

cheers for the kind offer mate but but ime going to buy both like you said and try them