Catcher 1 639 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 i have enjoyed reading this post, some really useful information gained, i have a 13 week old pup here, hope she turns out ok and not a YAPPER, but if she does there's plenty of river to throw her in round here... just dont be over keen as to letting your dog chase rabbits at an early age,hold it back til at least 10mths old just letting your dog watch the other dogs,then pick a few easy rabbits for it to run I think giving them easy runs to begin with, not too many and ending on a high is more important than age tbh. Ok, I wouldn't start them at 6 months etc but someone new to the game could easily think as long as they don't run the dog until its a year old, its ready for a days work. Best advice yet.When entering a pup.Easy runs are a must.A few close hoppers to start with.Will build confidence. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I owned a yapper once... That bitch in my avatar to your left. The first and second time I took her out she sang like a bird, boy I was feckin gutted..! Being a youngster and one i'd put a lot of effort into since she was a ball of fluff, I took stock, had a damn good think and re-located my speck, by about 100 mile to give her the best possible chances. The old ground was good but the new one was much better. Her catches were much easier, her rate was much higher and she never had a feckin chance to have a blow till I called quits. She never made a murmur, never did after either. Point is, I could have wrote her off after those first two outings but I gave her every chance and it paid off. It don't work for every dog mind, Chalks is dead right, some mutts are born to sing, but make sure you've thought long and hard about the start you've given a pup before making a big decision. Would I own a yapper? Best way to answer is to say, i'd rather not but as NMF said, i'd rather have a loud one that puts gear away than a silent one that don't..!! Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 i have enjoyed reading this post, some really useful information gained, i have a 13 week old pup here, hope she turns out ok and not a YAPPER, but if she does there's plenty of river to throw her in round here... just dont be over keen as to letting your dog chase rabbits at an early age,hold it back til at least 10mths old just letting your dog watch the other dogs,then pick a few easy rabbits for it to run I think giving them easy runs to begin with, not too many and ending on a high is more important than age tbh. Ok, I wouldn't start them at 6 months etc but someone new to the game could easily think as long as they don't run the dog until its a year old, its ready for a days work.But it will be more capable at 12 months that it woulda been at 6 months??? Plenty do start them at 6 months... Definately mate, don't want to start them too early. I always started pups on rabbits 9 months and hares 18 months. When I mean start I mean entering f***ing slowly. One rabbit to begin with, ferreted, easy catch. Then again next time out working upto a couple always kept on slip lead, let it watch other dog work the holes leaving the netted rabbits catching the unnetted ones keep progressing slowly then same on the lamp once its mastered a few like this. You've less control on a lamped rabbit. Always end on a high even if its only one rabbit. You get a feel with experience how the nights panning out. Ok with an old dog to slog it out but best calling it a night early with a young dog if the rabbits ain't playing ball. Can be hard if you've travelled a distance and they're lamp shy for some reason but you can always try again, once a dogs ruined, hard to sort. Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Can yapping come out with all breeds of lurcher or is there some breeds more prone than others? Quote Link to post
kps1979 1,308 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 yep i was only joking about the pup! my older bitch sometimes lets out a yip, it really dont bother me, i dont do much lamping, or at least upto now i havn't, i just enjoy watching my dogs work and hunt up together during the day, i have a border terrier who barks like crazy when shes on something, like yesterday i was out walking the dogs and terrier started barking through cover, then my lurcher got fired up, stood at the right place and ended up with a rabbit, we got two that way, my pup was with us just watching and having a sniff about and a bit of a play with rabbits, im in no rush to start her, i think she will get the hang of it up off my other two! im also spending the time with pup on a one to one with retrieving etc, Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,350 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Yes kps. Her daughter was barking at the fence at 7 this morning ,,, I went out and looked,, and on the other side of the fence on the neighbours garden was a wood pigeon ,,lol. Little fecker was marking it though. And last week she had been out for a few hours on the garden,, I went out to bring her in,, and there were pigeon feathers everywhere ,,, but I didn't find a body,,,weather she had ate it I don't know..lol Edited March 28, 2013 by TOMO Quote Link to post
kps1979 1,308 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 tomo i think your pup will turn out a great little bitch, you get to see alot more stuff than i do up here, i think my lurchers a bit lazy because she knows the terrier will find whatevers there and all she needs to do is stand at the right place and she catches it! would be great to see few pics of how pups coming along, cheers, Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,350 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ile pm you some,,, mind ile have to take some first,,, ile take the camera out in a short while Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 here we go hes back on this should be fun Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yes kps. Her daughter was barking at the fence at 7 this morning ,,, I went out and looked,, and on the other side of the fence on the neighbours garden was a wood pigeon ,,lol. Little fecker was marking it though. And last week she had been out for a few hours on the garden,, I went out to bring her in,, and there were pigeon feathers everywhere ,,, but I didn't find a body,,,weather she had ate it I don't know..lol Years ago, oooooft showing my age here, easy 20 lol, used to go out coursing with a guy who's dog would eat the f***ing hare!!! Soon as it was slipped, you had to run like f**k in the direction it was heading cos as soon as it was caught, it was eat lol. Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 penny wise theirs lads on here who have been out with me and lads i always go out with who have seen first hand what my dogs like most of the time it dont make a sound but as i said some times he lets a bark or grow out on a hedge when the rabbits escaped,if the dog was shite i wouldnt have it but he can put some game away so hes staying put Every body to thete own pal atbpw always summat to say Lads that i go out with wouldnt put up with that pal these lads i go with have been at it years and put plenty off jackers in the river calder. ten a penny thats my name because if youve watched the film IT they all float see ya no good am a c**t. I don't know about you being a c**t but you do sound like your 12 years old. Is the schools off already for Easter down there? You say your pals put loads of jackers in the river, is it maybe because they don't have a f*****g clue what they are doing? Personally I wouldn't have a dog that yaps and thankfully I've never had one that does. Never had a dog that's jacked either, funny that. Hopefully I'll get some in the future so I'm as good as your pals...... i have enjoyed reading this post, some really useful information gained, i have a 13 week old pup here, hope she turns out ok and not a YAPPER, but if she does there's plenty of river to throw her in round here... Seriously mate I take it you are joking about the river - yeah? Tell you what though some of the folk who read that will take it as fact...I know the earlier clown started it but maybe not the best thing to be writing on this kinda forum... Well what you ment to do with um jackers rap um up in cotton wool come on fella. Quote Link to post
gravedigger 87 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yes kps. Her daughter was barking at the fence at 7 this morning ,,, I went out and looked,, and on the other side of the fence on the neighbours garden was a wood pigeon ,,lol. Little fecker was marking it though.And last week she had been out for a few hours on the garden,, I went out to bring her in,, and there were pigeon feathers everywhere ,,, but I didn't find a body,,,weather she had ate it I don't know..lolYears ago, oooooft showing my age here, easy 20 lol, used to go out coursing with a guy who's dog would eat the f*****g hare!!! Soon as it was slipped, you had to run like f**k in the direction it was heading cos as soon as it was caught, it was eat lol.lol...i knew a guy who had a pure bred greyhound bitch that was quite adept at tearing apart anything it caught !!!!! Thing was nuts lol Quote Link to post
StayKeen 19 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) My pup used to yap on rabbits first month or so of taking him out but now he dont make a noise. Only rabbits though anything else it was fine with. Edited March 28, 2013 by StayKeen Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yes kps. Her daughter was barking at the fence at 7 this morning ,,, I went out and looked,, and on the other side of the fence on the neighbours garden was a wood pigeon ,,lol. Little fecker was marking it though.And last week she had been out for a few hours on the garden,, I went out to bring her in,, and there were pigeon feathers everywhere ,,, but I didn't find a body,,,weather she had ate it I don't know..lol Years ago, oooooft showing my age here, easy 20 lol, used to go out coursing with a guy who's dog would eat the f*****g hare!!! Soon as it was slipped, you had to run like f**k in the direction it was heading cos as soon as it was caught, it was eat lol.lol...i knew a guy who had a pure bred greyhound bitch that was quite adept at tearing apart anything it caught !!!!! Thing was nuts lol Lol this f****r just devoured it. More than once it was slipped on a hare with a belly full of hare lol. Handy if you were poaching and got a pull, just chuck the hare to the dog in the back of the van joke Quote Link to post
gravedigger 87 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yes kps. Her daughter was barking at the fence at 7 this morning ,,, I went out and looked,, and on the other side of the fence on the neighbours garden was a wood pigeon ,,lol. Little fecker was marking it though.And last week she had been out for a few hours on the garden,, I went out to bring her in,, and there were pigeon feathers everywhere ,,, but I didn't find a body,,,weather she had ate it I don't know..lolYears ago, oooooft showing my age here, easy 20 lol, used to go out coursing with a guy who's dog would eat the f*****g hare!!! Soon as it was slipped, you had to run like f**k in the direction it was heading cos as soon as it was caught, it was eat lol.lol...i knew a guy who had a pure bred greyhound bitch that was quite adept at tearing apart anything it caught !!!!! Thing was nuts lolLol this f****r just devoured it. More than once it was slipped on a hare with a belly full of hare lol. Handy if you were poaching and got a pull, just chuck the hare to the dog in the back of the van joke lol....what hare officer ??????? Quote Link to post
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