Being Able To Shout Your Bitch/dog Out

[marshman 7,758]

 

 

 

 

Owned and worked a jack Russell a lot of years ago the dog worked well to fox and would stay till dug to we were checking out a farm we had just got permission on we were walking along the bottom of a very long steep banking when my terrier put his nose down and away he went he started to go up the banking through gorse were we lost sight of him went to the last point we seen him and yes you've guest it an earth two holes about 30' apart with a lot of grassed over spoil outside both hole so we knew it was an old and well established earth we listened at both holes not a sound tried to marked the dog with the 15' locator turned up full bung not a click from the box we decided to wait and see if we would get a bolt sat for a hour nothing we decided to trench in between the two holes as we opened up the hole the banking kept slipping very dangerous any way we dug for 3 days the dog eventually came out him self. Well after that I made sure any terrier I owned would come out of the ground if I wanted it too. If you have a terrier and you need it out of an earth for any reason and you shout it and it refuses to come to H.M.V. Then that fault lies with the owner of the dog. Unless the dog is stuck This is just M.H.O

have I read this right , just to clarify if a dog doesn't come of when called its the owners fault ? Also could you tell me how you train your dogs to come away ?

It's all about obedience and training starts ASAP the dog is working for its master.

fair play but what happens if your dog is grafting deep and cannot hear hes masters voice . Does he stay or does he walk ?

Of course he stays if he can't hear H.M.V. Then why would he come out. I'm only giving my opinion and what I did with my terriers and these dogs weren't your soft bolting type they were fell/Lakeland type terriers and would would really mix it with there foxes The last terrier I had here before getting the border pup was a black rough coated fell type and my mates said more than once that wee c@nt's human he was everything I wanted in a terrier and hopefully the border pup can take his place as I have said before the pups got big boots tae fill but he will be trained the same way as all the rest.

You shouldn't have a problem getting a border to come of .... Only joking before all the border lads start ???

[fat man 4,741]

I know where you're coming from fat man and I agree to a degree, lets just say this bitch covers all bases and she's served me very well.

Like me she's f'in unique lol

She is 1 in a million,just like you D,thank god,lol.How you keepin by the way,Joe still knocking about.

[Cleanspade 3,324]

I don't buy the old saying that a terrier should work for his master. IMO a terrier should work because he has countless generations behind him of terriers that worked to ground.

I've had and known off terriers that either escaped from their kennels or were lost while excising, went to ground, never to be seen again. They went to ground because it should be all a terrier knows to do.

So if a terrier can be called off his quarry without a doubt that terrier is lacking in heart.

It's useful by all means and years ago I seen a little lakeland who was regularly used under roads and such. His owner would enter him, wait for a bolt, if the bolt didn't look like happening then dog was called off and they moved on. This terrier accounted for many, many foxes. But his owner was sensible enough to know he had a cur and never to breed form him.

I knew of another terrier who's owner would fire a shot in the air and the terrier would fly out of the earth looking for a rag.

Enough of these useful curs can be bred by putting 2 good staying types together so to breed off one IMO would be silly.

 

as has been said its a funny old game. i new a fell that after its first season killed every fox it could get to. it done this for eight seasons often to ground for many hours. often worked sore. allways got regular work, never put a foot wrong . this dog could be shouted out. with ease. yet i never saw him come away unless he had killed below.

i wouldnt say that is lacking heart. and only a fool wouldnt take stock from a dog like this.and to think he was nearly culled as his owner thought he was walking off his job. only when his owner dug down to the original marks did he realise that it was killing below without taking a lot of stick. i wonder how many are put away after coming up for air after doing what every fell was bred to do. was this not the ideal type for working in the fells. as for hard terriers staying for hours.. they are either in sickbay to often. or they arnt hard. or they would have the job done

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

 

 

Owned and worked a jack Russell a lot of years ago the dog worked well to fox and would stay till dug to we were checking out a farm we had just got permission on we were walking along the bottom of a very long steep banking when my terrier put his nose down and away he went he started to go up the banking through gorse were we lost sight of him went to the last point we seen him and yes you've guest it an earth two holes about 30' apart with a lot of grassed over spoil outside both hole so we knew it was an old and well established earth we listened at both holes not a sound tried to marked the dog with the 15' locator turned up full bung not a click from the box we decided to wait and see if we would get a bolt sat for a hour nothing we decided to trench in between the two holes as we opened up the hole the banking kept slipping very dangerous any way we dug for 3 days the dog eventually came out him self. Well after that I made sure any terrier I owned would come out of the ground if I wanted it too. If you have a terrier and you need it out of an earth for any reason and you shout it and it refuses to come to H.M.V. Then that fault lies with the owner of the dog. Unless the dog is stuck This is just M.H.O

have I read this right , just to clarify if a dog doesn't come of when called its the owners fault ? Also could you tell me how you train your dogs to come away ?

It's all about obedience and training starts ASAP the dog is working for its master.

fair play but what happens if your dog is grafting deep and cannot hear hes masters voice . Does he stay or does he walk ?

Of course he stays if he can't hear H.M.V. Then why would he come out. I'm only giving my opinion and what I did with my terriers and these dogs weren't your soft bolting type they were fell/Lakeland type terriers and would would really mix it with there foxes The last terrier I had here before getting the border pup was a black rough coated fell type and my mates said more than once that wee c@nt's human he was everything I wanted in a terrier and hopefully the border pup can take his place as I have said before the pups got big boots tae fill but he will be trained the same way as all the rest.

You shouldn't have a problem getting a border to come of .... Only joking before all the border lads start ???

Maybe ask dingle frm dales about that one seems his border works fox just fine. " Awe the banter."

[whippet 99 2,613]

before the ban , they had a place in every terrier mans armory whilst following hounds.........

[the_stig 6,614]

[MOLE265 792]

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Some people just can't take it and resort to schoolboy nonsense show a bit of maturity mate.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

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. RAUS RAUS RAUS OOT AF ZEE EARTH. !!!!!!! SNELL SNELL

[the_stig 6,614]

 

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Some people just can't take it and resort to schoolboy nonsense show a bit of maturity mate.

 

read the whole thread mate you might find some of my other posts truth is its getting boring going over the same ground as you would of found out if you`d of gone to trouble of reading the whole 10 pages

Edited December 20, 2013 by the_stig

[MOLE265 792]

 

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. RAUS RAUS RAUS OOT AF ZEE EARTH. !!!!!!! SNELL SNELL

You take your blazer off too fud.

[the_stig 6,614]

i think i`ve been on this site to long

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Lol

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Anybody got any terriers they can call out going spare?

[the_stig 6,614]

 

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Some people just can't take it and resort to schoolboy nonsense show a bit of maturity mate.

 

when you say show a bit of maturity you mean this kind of thing

[MOLE265 792]

i think i`ve been on this site to long

When did you put Lakeland terriers through your Russell's.