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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

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There's some right sh*te being said on this thread by lads that have obviously only ever owned hard digging dogs without a brain, I've owned many types of terrier from the 60's on and there is a use f

this is the most inaccurate post ive read on here in a long time. A man who gets to use his terriers most often are the lads in hunt service digging for packs. If they keep "hard" type terriers they w

Mole tbh I think your either talking pish or at the wind up! Tbh I think you ain't got much of a clue, been out with a lot of dudes like you

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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?
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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?
It'll walk after an hour.....if its any good that is
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Shout louder,if the place is that deep that the mutt cannot be called,would you really want to attempt a dig?.At times there are places that no amount of shouting or digging can ever bear fruit,never stops us getting the mutts out of the motor though?.

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Its all down to what you have if you have options Use them i seen little pipe cleaners go in to places other wont get , seen big uns shoulder hairlless through pushing on through rock seen most things but. Would never discount the use of a terrier that will come away when called out , bravardo is a terrible thing lol ,

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Its all down to what you have if you have options Use them i seen little pipe cleaners go in to places other wont get , seen big uns shoulder hairlless through pushing on through rock seen most things but. Would never discount the use of a terrier that will come away when called out , bravardo is a terrible thing lol ,

I don't think no one has said that a terrier that can be called of isn't a handy tool .
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Its all down to what you have if you have options Use them i seen little pipe cleaners go in to places other wont get , seen big uns shoulder hairlless through pushing on through rock seen most things but. Would never discount the use of a terrier that will come away when called out , bravardo is a terrible thing lol ,

I don't think no one has said that a terrier that can be called of isn't a handy tool .
. Never said they had , but some younger lads may think its a bad thing no having seen them used in a situation.
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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

 

 

Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

 

then you have the same situation you would have with your mute bull headed cruncher. only chances are it has a little more savy and lasts till the 13 tonner arrives via the fell and moorland. rescue. fcuk me there is some nonesense on here. why are other canine owners not as kennel blind. if you want a dog that calls out then keep and breed for that quality. it will have NO direct threat to the harder types genepool. or the staying terrier for that matter. these terriers are kept amongst close pals and bred tightly. so how could inferior terriers affect them :hmm: . how many types of gun dog are there. each bred for different uses. all have a place. each exelling at what they where bred for :yes: . in the terrier world it seems. there is only one type of any use the rest are inferior and not to be bred off :blink: . there is a place for all work styles. as long as your true to your own type and breed for what you desire and dont stray from the path then your terriers will be safe.

 

one thing i do believe is that one mans cull is another mans pride. :yes: . times are changing. and the more versitile terrier is finding favour in more and more kennels. ;)

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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

 

Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

then you have the same situation you would have with your mute bull headed cruncher. only chances are it has a little more savy and lasts till the 13 tonner arrives via the fell and moorland. rescue. fcuk me there is some nonesense on here. why are other canine owners not as kennel blind. if you want a dog that calls out then keep and breed for that quality. it will have NO direct threat to the harder types genepool. or the staying terrier for that matter. these terriers are kept amongst close pals and bred tightly. so how could inferior terriers affect them :hmm: . how many types of gun dog are there. each bred for different uses. all have a place. each exelling at what they where bred for :yes: . in the terrier world it seems. there is only one type of any use the rest are inferior and not to be bred off :blink: . there is a place for all work styles. as long as your true to your own type and breed for what you desire and dont stray from the path then your terriers will be safe.

 

one thing i do believe is that one mans cull is another mans pride. :yes: . times are changing. and the more versitile terrier is finding favour in more and more kennels. ;)

the thing is I wouldn't be in that situation where I entered a digging dog into an earth that needed a 13 tonne digger and the fmwtc , as I've no shame in saying that I wouldn't put a digging dog into that sort of place on purpose ! My point was that if you got situation were your dog couldn't hear you then your just as fcuked as if you had if you entered a stayer.
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Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

 

Its surprising how some Charlie boys manage to get lodgings in places that the are physically impossible to dig,some may know where im coming from,would these lads with digging terriers that never come away until dug to enter here?,or walk away and miss ANOTHER opportunity.A terrier that can be utilised in these situations,called out at times if necessary,necessary often crops up?,is a more useful addition to the kennel of some lads than a digging jukel.Some lads want a digging terrier and don,t mind walking past undesirable,for them,places.some of us take advantage of, these places and the terriers that best work them.Which terrier line is more restricted in its work and what it offers?,both have their uses,dependant on the kennel,ignorance is the biggest fault in a kennel,owner?.

so what happens if your terrier is in so deep that he cannot hear you calling him , in these physical impossible to dig places as you put it ?

then you have the same situation you would have with your mute bull headed cruncher. only chances are it has a little more savy and lasts till the 13 tonner arrives via the fell and moorland. rescue. fcuk me there is some nonesense on here. why are other canine owners not as kennel blind. if you want a dog that calls out then keep and breed for that quality. it will have NO direct threat to the harder types genepool. or the staying terrier for that matter. these terriers are kept amongst close pals and bred tightly. so how could inferior terriers affect them :hmm: . how many types of gun dog are there. each bred for different uses. all have a place. each exelling at what they where bred for :yes: . in the terrier world it seems. there is only one type of any use the rest are inferior and not to be bred off :blink: . there is a place for all work styles. as long as your true to your own type and breed for what you desire and dont stray from the path then your terriers will be safe.

 

one thing i do believe is that one mans cull is another mans pride. :yes: . times are changing. and the more versitile terrier is finding favour in more and more kennels. ;)

the thing is I wouldn't be in that situation where I entered a digging dog into an earth that needed a 13 tonne digger and the fmwtc , as I've no shame in saying that I wouldn't put a digging dog into that sort of place on purpose ! My point was that if you got situation were your dog couldn't hear you then your just as fcuked as if you had if you entered a stayer.
Thing happen thats out of our controll. An earth that was simple one year may have changed the next time , a rock pile that was workable at one time may have collapsed the next time never say never
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years and years ago i came across a fox that was meeting the terriers mid tube. i had initially used my old russell she was hammered and came away defeated. and worse for wear. so i entered another terrier a shout out sort to try and bolt it. and as was the case with the first terrier you heard the fox engage mid tube. we used this bitch to buy some time till a big strong lakie could be brought down to this earth.the lakie owner pointed out that the bitch keeping the fierry fox busy wasnt up to much as it could be called out. (totally missing the fact that the bitch gave his dog the chance to shine) it was entered and also after giving a fair account of itself showed. worse for wear.and fairly beaten. saying the fox would be dead. looking at the lakies condition i dicided to enter the little shoutout again to mark. she burst into full bay shortly after entering :laugh: it was dug and a tiny vixen was found not to far from where the dogs where entered she had a cracking vantage point on a sandstone ledge. i gave her best despite some compaining from other folk there that day :laugh: . i was sad to find out she was shot on the next farm shortly after. :cray:

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usually dogs what are called out will come away after a while......no shame in it,....handy for the right reasons , locate depth , use different dog etc.........talking on hound work before the ban , handy as...., years ago I had a little Russell that would find in the biggest of places, and usually get a bolt , if not she would sit for a while and eventually come away ...... if they cant hear you etc.......great little dog you can take any where with out worrying about getting in trouble,....many a times I walk past places and she push them out of earths ........a great little dog which I owed a lot too , give me some great sport many moons ago....

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How many times have we entered a terrier into a shitty looking shallow 2 holer and then turned grey when the knocker went into overdrive?,its impossible to know at times,until we learn the land.When the lie of the land is known and a dirty location is known,would a digging dog be entered?,only by the fruits?,would a more seasoned mutt better utilised to these scenarios,s get slipped,a mutt that could be encouraged to leave upon the owners bequest?,which terrier would best get results?.

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How many times have we entered a terrier into a shitty looking shallow 2 holer and then turned grey when the knocker went into overdrive?,its impossible to know at times,until we learn the land.When the lie of the land is known and a dirty location is known,would a digging dog be entered?,only by the fruits?,would a more seasoned mutt better utilised to these scenarios,s get slipped,a mutt that could be encouraged to leave upon the owners bequest?,which terrier would best get results?.

its one thing to not know the depth of an earth as we all know the risks involved in terrier work , and a complete different one to enter as you said a "physically impossible place to dig" Then as I said I've no shame in not putting my dog in ! Edited by marshman
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