Being Able To Shout Your Bitch/dog Out

[lukey 1,621]

Mole tbh I think your either talking pish or at the wind up! Tbh I think you ain't got much of a clue, been out with a lot of dudes like you

[the_stig 6,614]

 

how do you train a terrier to come off ----

So your asking me how to train a terrier a man of your experience a man? With all your knowledge? Wouldn't/shouldn't need too ask especially one that keeps soft bolting type Lakeland x Russell's pmsl.

 

really you dont know what i keep ..just the way i like it .. and you the border man- --------------------- i figured out what it is i never placed your pup i remember there where 4 in the class and we`d ran out of pink rossettes did i not give you 3rd in the child handling ?... soft bolting types handy terrier to have in your tool box .. and i`ve forgoton more than you`ll ever know..

Edited December 23, 2013 by the_stig

[the_stig 6,614]

mole get yourself in the right section --i`m done with this thread..lads i`m sorry if i`ve spoilt in any way thats not my style --but you know what its like when you sit next to the nutter on the bus ---well i think i sat next to one in here ..

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

how do you train a terrier to come off ----

So your asking me how to train a terrier a man of your experience a man? With all your knowledge? Wouldn't/shouldn't need too ask especially one that keeps soft bolting type Lakeland x Russell's pmsl.

really you dont know what i keep ..just the way i like it .. and you the border man- --------------------- i figured out what it is i never placed your pup i remember there where 4 in the class and we`d ran out of pink rossettes did i not give you 3rd in the child handling ?... soft bolting types handy terrier to have in your tool box .. and i`ve forgoton more than you`ll ever know..

Awe naw my secrets out you've sussed it Hugo pmsl.

[MOLE265 792]

baby creche room circle.jpg mole get yourself in the right section --i`m done with this thread..lads i`m sorry if i`ve spoilt in any way thats not my style --but you know what its like when you sit next to the nutter on the bus ---well i think i sat next to one in here ..

. Where did yae get my photo from Hugo. Edited December 23, 2013 by MOLE265

[MOLE265 792]

 

 

 

how do you train a terrier to come off ----

So your asking me how to train a terrier a man of your experience a man? With all your knowledge? Wouldn't/shouldn't need too ask especially one that keeps soft bolting type Lakeland x Russell's pmsl.

really you dont know what i keep ..just the way i like it .. and you the border man- --------------------- i figured out what it is i never placed your pup i remember there where 4 in the class and we`d ran out of pink rossettes did i not give you 3rd in the child handling ?... soft bolting types handy terrier to have in your tool box .. and i`ve forgoton more than you`ll ever know..

forgotten!!! You better get back too school and learn to spell as it looks like you've forgotten to do that as well Hugo pmsl. Edited December 23, 2013 by MOLE265

[lukey 1,621]

You'd be better letting it go the terrier section is bad enough without all this carry on!

[TOPPER 1,809]

used to have a lakie bitch that you could call out but if she was on quarry you had no chance none of the dogs here at the moment could be called out you gotta dig them out

[Cleanspade 3,324]

how do you train a terrier to come off ----

good question stig. i reckon you cant train a good earthdog to come off. ive seen a few in all the years i used to work terriers. one or two of them just didnt take to the job and either jibbed or semi jibbed (culls) one was a freek. cowan/brightmore bred terrier that killed below but would call out with ease unless engaging his fox. (we bred a bitch from this dog that would stay but not engage and was mute. she would just sit with the fox till dug. ) the best ive seen have been scatter bred russells. the bright sort that have the submissive trainability of a collie these again i feel are naturally inclined to work as a team member.. and have the ability to work out what your doing. the worst thing to do if you feel you have a dog with this potential is to put a spade in the ground and dig. you need to be patient and wait it out from the very first encounter. picking earths for easy bolts.. once its seen a bit of success you can call your head off then let off a shot. this the dog relates to a bolt and comes to see. ( hopefully.. ) you get the picture anyways. one of the other ways ive seen is wait till you see an idiot buy in a good terrier. he will in time waste the dog. and it will start to show. not a shout out but the next best thing a half hour wonder. .

 

back to the bright russells. once you have a bit of control its not many times you have to wait at a tree or bush with your terrier in your coat to see a fox hit a net or shot before the terrier knows its job.

 

i used to try and get some control over the more committed terriers but it wasnt long before i realised they took damage due to being distracted. . this is just what ive seen in my limited days of terriers other will no doubt have different experiences due mostly to differing ideals and a different aproach to the same job. its all changed now and to be honest i'm glad i'm past it . it seems its not about getting the the job done for the farmer . its testing terriers terriers have it hard enough with the job they do without making it harder. and a pesters dog will be well tested by the time it is classed as a vetran

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

 

 

 

Mole it happened to me with my first digging dog, I thought I knew the land and let the bitch off on way back to motor. She dropped into a small place under a tree with no collar on. After ears to the ground I quickly dug 3ft to an unhurt newborn litter, located the dog again this time breaking through to the adult. Quickly back filled whilst being watched from 200yds by English Heritage visitors....mistake I vowed not to make again

Fair play mate thats why I vowed I would alway obedience train a dog to the best of my ability because of the three day dig He was my first digging dog and for three days there was no sound and thought we were digging to a dead terrier. I take great pleasure in training a pup and at the end of it you've got a terrier thats a pleasure to work.

Mole where do you actually get the time to dig as from reading your posts you seem to be on here most of the time,sorry i forgot you dont dig you call out the terrier.

Well mate if you've been reading my posts you'll know the terrier I have at the moment is only a pup so won't be digging for a wee while so I've got a wee bit of time too put my views across some people on here have tried to shout me down on my views and when I rattle there cage they don't like it but that's how it is don't dish it out if you don't want it back they'll know who I'm talking about. Pmsl.

. Lol ground breaking man calls terriers out of earth. Lol like your the first pmsl

How you doing my learnered friend can you tell me were I have said I'm the first to call a terrier out of an earth because you've got me stumped awe that right you can't because in all the years I have been on God green earth I have never stated I was the first as that wold be a very bold statement indeed now go away and stop making a Cnut of yourself. O and I see your doing a wee bit of back pedalling pmsl.

. c**t of your self. Lol. Your making a fine job of that your self. Come on Scotlands answer to plummer give us a step by step education on how your training your wee new pop dont be shy. I am truly truly interested.

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mole it happened to me with my first digging dog, I thought I knew the land and let the bitch off on way back to motor. She dropped into a small place under a tree with no collar on. After ears to the ground I quickly dug 3ft to an unhurt newborn litter, located the dog again this time breaking through to the adult. Quickly back filled whilst being watched from 200yds by English Heritage visitors....mistake I vowed not to make again

Fair play mate thats why I vowed I would alway obedience train a dog to the best of my ability because of the three day dig He was my first digging dog and for three days there was no sound and thought we were digging to a dead terrier. I take great pleasure in training a pup and at the end of it you've got a terrier thats a pleasure to work.

Mole where do you actually get the time to dig as from reading your posts you seem to be on here most of the time,sorry i forgot you dont dig you call out the terrier.

Well mate if you've been reading my posts you'll know the terrier I have at the moment is only a pup so won't be digging for a wee while so I've got a wee bit of time too put my views across some people on here have tried to shout me down on my views and when I rattle there cage they don't like it but that's how it is don't dish it out if you don't want it back they'll know who I'm talking about. Pmsl.

. Lol ground breaking man calls terriers out of earth. Lol like your the first pmsl

How you doing my learnered friend can you tell me were I have said I'm the first to call a terrier out of an earth because you've got me stumped awe that right you can't because in all the years I have been on God green earth I have never stated I was the first as that wold be a very bold statement indeed now go away and stop making a Cnut of yourself. O and I see your doing a wee bit of back pedalling pmsl.

. c**t of your self. Lol. Your making a fine job of that your self. Come on Scotlands answer to plummer give us a step by step education on how your training your wee new pop dont be shy. I am truly truly interested.

 

you might have to wait for 3 days

[howsshefrom 32]

 

i would rather dig one fox with a good honest hard terrier that will stay the distance than bolt 10 with one of these 'call outs'. I agree with everything fatman and collie greyhound have said, its about testing the terriers to the max, not about how many foxes you kill in a season, this is the only way we can maintain the working terrier and as was said before, breeding of these dogs will dilute the 'gameness' out of the dogs and will eventually have nothing left

who said that some of these call outs wont stay till dug, and they aint 'game' lol. What a load of shit.

eventually they will come away as they dont have the same heart as a dog that will stay put, if a gog comes away hes a jacker simple as, and as i said before its about quality not quantity, if your happy enough to stand back and let them hit the nets then work away but i will stick to the digging with dogs that will be there when i get down

[gonetoearth 5,144]

What i can never understand is why all the animosity people just come on to dicuss and give there opinions next thing. It c**t this c**t that. Think its time to sit back and read. Like stig said , MERRY. CHRISTMAS.

[francolin 449]

cleanspade not havin a go but a pesters dog will hopefully will be tested by the time its a veteran but may be too old to breed from at that point as you said in the day it was all about keeping the farmer happy but that was by the use of terriers that would get the job done whatever was required and that type was then the breeding stock the call out type/fox bolter was and still is handy but dare I say inferior as a true digging dog ,only my opinion and I aint no expert perhaps a diff dog was prized in my terrier days atb.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

 

good honest workers should always stay until dug to.. your kidding yourselves on if you can shout a half hearted worker out when he up to his fox. dont put them in bad places or learn to dig.. once you have called him out do yourself a favour and shoot the hoor and get proper stuff. get the basics right or the digging game and game dogs going downhill.

 

posts like this would be sound if they said before them. IN MY OPINION. as that is all that is an opinion. ive seen a few dogs that can be called out. i owned one for many seasons. she was a little yapper that could be shouted out. and was very handy indeed. i worked with a lakie that was hard enough to kill the majority of its foxes and did this with ease, he could be dug to and was dug on many occasions . he took a lot of damage over the years due to his hard nature. but he could be held off the lead at an occupied earth untill sent down by comand . he could also be called off on comand. he was an exeptional working terrier. i also had the pleasure of being out many times in my youth with a pet bred russell that could be shouted out . despite him being one of the hardest terriers ive seen worked. he was prematurely retired at a very young age due to work related injuries. terrierwork and working terriers are so varied . one mans opinion can only relate to what THEY. require in a terrier. i admire all terriers that do a job of work.

 

and the biggest threat to the working terrier at this moment in time is over hard terriers and folk that value this FAULT. above other attributes. just my opinion

 

 

The theory behind this post is great .We can all have terriers that work week in week out but in practice its a fact that you will not consistantly produce good bitches from a sire that is not hard .For the sake of the future of our terriers please think about what you post .