darren_nash 85 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) after a long time thinking about it have decided to get a deerhound x grey, had one in the ,S was a brilliant bitch ,showed my wife the photos and finally persuaded/talked her into it . she had her dog poisoned last year which done our heads in as all the training, etc ,it broke her heart.. were moving to ireland wheres there no ban so we have decided on a dhxgh hybrid , since the ban ive only had rabbiting dogs . heard good things about both breeders , had some good feedback from a bloke on here and actually had a good long chat with david platts ,which was good have yet to bell cooklands . what i wanted to know was who has the better strain /hybrids. from what ive researched cooklands are bill dohertys stock "doxhope", after they packed it in . both have ardkinglass in them . does anyone on this forum own hybrids from either of these people ? feedback /pictures would be great..!! i want to hear from people who actually run/own a hybrid from them. thankyou Edited March 22, 2013 by darren_nash Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 after a long time thinking about it have decided to get a deerhound x grey, had one in the ,S was a brilliant bitch ,showed my wife the photos and finally persuaded/talked her into it . she had her dog poisoned last year which done our heads in as all the training, etc ,it broke her heart.. were moving to ireland wheres there no ban so we have decided on a dhxgh hybrid , since the ban ive only had rabbiting dogs . heard good things about both breeders , had some good feedback from a bloke on here and actually had a good long chat with david platts ,which was good have yet to bell cooklands . what i wanted to know was who has the better strain /hybrids. from what ive researched cooklands are bill dohertys stoch "doxhope", after they packed it in . both have ardkinglass in them . does anyone on this forum own hybrids from either of these people ? feedback /pictures would be great..!! i want to hear from people who actually run/own a hybrid from them. thankyou Ah bet you did mate - next time try industrial earplugs and don't give him your phone number...!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post
darren_nash 85 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 ive heard jeff burrows is similar ? Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Well reading up on doxhope line dogs, they were the thing to have at the time. So if cooklands are doxhopes, it kind of makes sense. But then again I ain't done any research on platts and other strains. I just know bill worked his line to good effect. So would stick to what I know sort of thing.atb 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 ive heard jeff burrows is similar ? think the majority are all the same cant see by there selfs lol Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 after a long time thinking about it have decided to get a deerhound x grey, had one in the ,S was a brilliant bitch ,showed my wife the photos and finally persuaded/talked her into it . she had her dog poisoned last year which done our heads in as all the training, etc ,it broke her heart.. were moving to ireland wheres there no ban so we have decided on a dhxgh hybrid , since the ban ive only had rabbiting dogs . heard good things about both breeders , had some good feedback from a bloke on here and actually had a good long chat with david platts ,which was good have yet to bell cooklands . what i wanted to know was who has the better strain /hybrids. from what ive researched cooklands are bill dohertys stock "doxhope", after they packed it in . both have ardkinglass in them . does anyone on this forum own hybrids from either of these people ? feedback /pictures would be great..!! i want to hear from people who actually run/own a hybrid from them. thankyou if ya fancy a deerhound xs again darren you go ahead , ONEwill only be thinking what if and so on life to short to deny one self . what i would say and i hope this of some help platt does have access to doxehope blood aswell as cookland , i would suppose who can be accesed easily both different ends of the uk . atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 gaffer off here has some nice deerhound cross not sure if there platts lines pm him darren plus theres a good few on here who run cooklands atb 1 Quote Link to post
owendbowendb 132 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Do any of the lads run the pures then at all ? I hear theres a few in Ireland still Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 gaffer off here has some nice deerhound cross not sure if there platts lines pm him darren plus theres a good few on here who run cooklands atb Gaffers got his dog from Dave Platt, out of raven and i forget the name of the dam. Same sire as my dhx Quote Link to post
Guest thebigdog Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 theres a man over here thats breeding pure's and halfx's out of doxhope stuff, think jigsaw knows him. Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,957 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 To answer the question you'd need owners of a hundred dogs from each breeder and for each owner to tell the truth.Otherwise you'll get individual blokes saying mine's rubbish or mine's a world beater. Platts is without doubt the better salesman. He can talk forever. Cooklands is a quieter bloke who doesn't bullshit. Whether their pups are better than each others, is impossible to say without conducting a scientific trial. Suspect it's all luck whether you get a cracking pup or a duffer whoever you buy from. 2 Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I tried both, won't start slagging people's lines just on the few I had but they weren't great. Trevor had a days hunting with me once, he's not a bad fella. Problem is that in general the deerhound xs crowed don't test there dogs how they should do now from my experience. keeping them as much for appearance and being good natured as anything else. They take about the same time as an oak tree to mature, so if your not in any hurry to go hunting or are perhaps on bail waiting to go up for sentence and expecting 2-3 year stretch these could be the Lurcher puppy for you. Pulling legs a little bit, but they wouldn't be in my kennels in the near futer, but at least I gave them a try and 2 years of my life! saying that I'm sure there's good ones out there. Edited March 22, 2013 by baldockbanks courser 4 Quote Link to post
Brigzy 1,298 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I tried both, won't start slagging people's lines just on the few I had but they weren't great. Trevor had a days hunting with me once, he's not a bad fella. Problem is that in general the deerhound xs crowed don't test there dogs how they should do now from my experience. keeping them as much for appearance and being good natured as anything else. They take about the same time as an oak tree to mature, so if your not in any hurry to go hunting or are perhaps on bail waiting to go up for sentence and expecting 2-3 year stretch these could be the Lurcher puppy for you. Pulling legs a little bit, but they wouldn't be in my kennels in the near futer, but at least I gave them a try and 2 years of my life! saying that I'm sure there's good ones out there. two years to raise train and work a deer x................... Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Correct, you can teach a dog sit stay, recall, how to follow a beam of light and be fair there natural retrievers. But Surely no one should be happy with a 25 + inch 1st cross just to catch rabbit and hare? Problem is You can't teach heart. 4 Quote Link to post
darren_nash 85 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 thanks for all comments , pm,s etc definetly gave me food for thought..!! distance wouldnt be a problem for the right dog, i suppose you pays your money and you take your choice ,iam a strong beliver in" you cant polish a turd " !! the breeding has to be in there ,iam gonna pm a few lads off here that have their dogs . i know doxhope /platts were the ones to get from in the ,s 90,s ,but some lines strains can become a bit stale or over-hyped , iam getting the wife one anyway problem is she wants it to look nice and iam , hunting around for working capabilities .! never been a rossette hunter . Quote Link to post
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