General lee 979 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Johhny frankham was from twyford he now lives at crowthorne he won a lot of money and he has a house and yard there about 4 miles from my place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,262 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Johhny frankham was from twyford he now lives at crowthorne he won a lot of money and he has a house and yard there about 4 miles from my place 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,049 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Not all traveller boys are boxers.......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Eastwoodbet he got some stick from the stands, bloody hell. By all accounts they loved him at SUFC, spoken of like a local hero in the papers matey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Just wanted to say thanks for all your replies - really interesting thread fellas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Not all traveller boys are boxers.......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddy_Eastwoodbet he got some stick from the stands, bloody hell. By all accounts they loved him at SUFC, spoken of like a local hero in the papers matey bet the away supporters loved him too lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) The reason most of these Gypsy boys cant make it in the pro game of boxing is they are brought up with the complete wrong mentality !........It seems to be ingrained in their culture to be " up for it " and not to back down...................thats all well and good but you need a lot more than being " up for it " to make a career in the paid ranks...............Ive known a number of fighters over the years from travelling communities they just had the complete wrong outlook i was friendly with Bobby Frankham back in the ,s he was a decent fighter but clumped a referee and got a life ban.......Lennie Smith was a good little fighter but was f****d off by every gym in London after he tried to get " revenge " on someone who took liberties with him in a spar.......boxing isnt about settling disputes,family honour or any of that bollocks....its about competing........fighting is the easy part......being a dedicated athlete and living the life is the hard pa. Someone mentioned Billy Joe Saunders now here is a lad who has done things the right way,ive watched him from a kid as he is trained by a lifelong friend of mine .......he is as proud of his heritage and loyal to his people as any other travelling boy......but he lives the athletes life and got himself away from all the hothead sillyness that seems to go with all the family feud stuff that just doesnt belong anywhere near a boxing ring.....he surrounds himself with good people with years and years of knowledge and experience in the pro game and simply doesnt have this " im a tough gypsy " mentality.....boxing is not about showing how tough you are its about hitting and not getting hit..............simple. gnash = i think we`ve had this coversation before but did a few of the frankhams fight pro -- were they norfolk way .. I seem to remember he was from Reading or Bracknell somewhere along the m4 there i think they ended up near Newmarket races there was a few brothers last i heard Bobby was on a murder charge so obviously life didnt turn out too well which is a shame. wasnt tony simson a traveller sibson ? no he was`ntBut he still had an impressive 55-7-1 record! Beaten twice by the mighty Marvin Haglerthink he only fought hagler once .... probly the best british fighter never to win a world title ... What about herol bomber graham would`nt fight sibbo ---leics v nottm would of filled a stadium sibbo calls herol the limbo dancer .. differant styles would of been intersting fight .. I liked Sibsons style it was all or nothing he didnt have the ability to box his way in but he made the best of what he had he was a pretty brutal puncher as well.......i remember he smashed up Minter then had a cracking fight with Kaylor........he always looked a bit fleshy i think he struggled with his weight he went up to light heavy to challenge my ol mucker Dennis Andries at Ally Pally i really felt for him that night he was just so frustrated at one point he just jumped up and down on the spot screaming .....Dennis had his number but his best years were behind him by then anyway....good honest fighter though Sibson. value for money fighter --- saw most of his fights i think they took to him in london gnash --he had a good following ..think the andries fight was his last shot at a world title .trained none stop otherwise he would pile it on .. Edited March 23, 2013 by the_stig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy pepper 222 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 wasnt tony simson a traveller sibson ? no he was`ntBut he still had an impressive 55-7-1 record! Beaten twice by the mighty Marvin Hagler marvelous marvin hagler hahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd17586 454 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 There also was a lad called dave ward from middleton abook was done on him i believe who was an excellent boxer who i was told would have been world champion only for he got banned from the sport for getting in a street fight and killing the man with a punch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd17586 454 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Maybe someone on here myt know abit more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 wasnt tony simson a traveller sibson ? no he was`ntBut he still had an impressive 55-7-1 record! Beaten twice by the mighty Marvin Haglermarvelous marvin hagler hahaha I'm aware of his nickname !! I was just using the word "mighty" as an adjective to describe one of the greatest middleweights of all time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 value for money fighter --- saw most of his fights i think they took to him in london gnash --he had a good following ..think the andries fight was his last shot at a world title .trained none stop otherwise he would pile it on .. It was before the division was introduced of course but Sibson would of been tailor made for super middleweight he wasnt big enough for light heavy,i remember the era well Sibsons camp wanted to avoid the American Bobby Czyz and i think Michael Spinks might still of had the other belt so they saw Dennis Andries as the easy touch because of his ungainly style.........but Dennis was a very tough man and a pushover for nobody Sibson couldnt put a dent in him. That wasnt his last world title shot he challenged Frank Tate a few years later got stopped around the 8th or 9th.......it was the night someone lobbed a tear gas cannister into the ring remember ?....everyone ringside was rubbing their eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 There also was a lad called dave ward from middleton abook was done on him i believe who was an excellent boxer who i was told would have been world champion only for he got banned from the sport for getting in a street fight and killing the man with a punch. You dont mean Dave Ward the welterweight,i dont know where Middleton is but this Dave Ward was from Manchester way..............and he was an average fighter at best....................world champion ....i dont think so. Always makes me laugh the old " could have been " title .....world champions dont get into street fights ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd17586 454 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yea i think so. I read it in a book and the world champion off his time says there was one man he would never fight as he could never beat him and that was dave ward.yea middleton manchester. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Dave was a journeyman who lost as much as he won and was nowhere near British title level.............Sugar Ray Leonard was the world champion of the time and i very much doubt he would of even known who Dave Ward was let alone been scared to fight him ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 value for money fighter --- saw most of his fights i think they took to him in london gnash --he had a good following ..think the andries fight was his last shot at a world title .trained none stop otherwise he would pile it on .. It was before the division was introduced of course but Sibson would of been tailor made for super middleweight he wasnt big enough for light heavy,i remember the era well Sibsons camp wanted to avoid the American Bobby Czyz and i think Michael Spinks might still of had the other belt so they saw Dennis Andries as the easy touch because of his ungainly style.........but Dennis was a very tough man and a pushover for nobody Sibson couldnt put a dent in him. That wasnt his last world title shot he challenged Frank Tate a few years later got stopped around the 8th or 9th.......it was the night someone lobbed a tear gas cannister into the ring remember ?....everyone ringside was rubbing their eyes. bingley hall -- missed the tate fight my 2nd eldest was due and i did`nt go ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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