scothunter 12,609 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 my first views were with uncle joe.when i was 7.well we called him uncle.he used to keep a rabbit in his pocket.although its hair had fallen out. his house went on fire lol Link to post Share on other sites
oldred58 340 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think the point of the media sexualising just about everything now is having a huge affect on our kids, my eldest girl is 14, she has an I phone and my wife checks it regularly( for her safety), she's honest with us ( to a degree lol) and most of the boys at her age access hard core porn everyday on there phones, I pods etc... It's a different world, kids expectation of sex now are entirely different to when we would find a smutty mag and take it to the den lol... Music videos are another thing again, half the time they are simulating sex, as Paulus said all of this should be on after the watershed, you can't monitor the tv every minute in a busy family household... Then you've got these ridiculous " celebrities" like Rylan, or Louie spence, ramming there over the top camp ways down your throat... They're not funny so why do much air time?? The worlds changed very quickly I would say in the last 10 to 15 years, technology now has taken over... As a parent all you can do is your best, educate, encourage and love.. After that what will be will be...... But I would still be disappointed if any of mine were gay, I don't think that makes me any worse of a parent or judgemental to gay people.... As for Gareth Thomas, I don't really care, it doesn't affect my life one bit.... My kids are grown up, but when they were younger I let them judge for them selves, never brain wash them, never checked there phones,I had trust in my kids, and all grown up done well, and all have open minds, did you think that TOM & JERRY WERE TO VIOLENT FOR YOUR KIDS Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I had an uncle joe to, but he didnt have a rabbit, did have a snake though, and if you rubbed it, it was always sick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'm with ray on this one. If I found out someone was gay I would think different of them, think we all would, even guys you've never met on here. If gnash turned round said he was gay, he'd lose my respect, same with lab etc. don't know why but they would. It's not f***ing normal even though the media is trying to tell us it is. spot on baw .i agree with you mate .as a sportsman he was one of the best full backs in the world in his era .and had legendary status in wales .but when you think of him doing what he does with another bloke .f***ing disgusting and in my book .theres something wrong upstairs ..its not my cup of tea .and if one of my boys came out id be devastated .would i let a poofter babysit my kids .would i hell .im not homophobic .but thats how i personally feel .and we are all entitled to a point of view You have got to be having a laugh....... TC why am i having a laugh ? you highlight in blue .and try to ridicule what i point out . why ? do you think its normal .to get into bed with another bloke and stick your prick up his arse etc . i think its disgusting mate and the bloke aint normal ,theres something lacking .if you dont see any thing wrong in that .well i wouldnt let you baby sit either .all this bollox about homophobia and the like .a load of bollox .hes a shirt lifter .and hes not my cup of tea and i wouldnt cross the road to see him .years ago he be called queer .cos hes odd .its not normal .if it was we would all be doing it .and mankind be no more ..why do you think arwell thomas was sent home years ago of tour and never played for wales again .cos thomas was caught shafting him .and thomas was blabbing and threatening to tell cos ruddock plugged parkers mrs .he only plugged her cos she gave him the come on .and thomas goes on national tv getting hysterical with eddie butler and on the point of thumping him .not long before he come out that was .im old school mate .and to me any man who wants to shaft another man is a queer mate and hes best left alone to do what ever but he wont be my mate. excuse the cliche but f**k him I highlighted in blue your statment. I then highlighted in red you stating that your not homophobic. You can tell by your post above that you clearly are homophobic. (thats fine, it's your perogative) But by denying that your are homophobic that makes you either a hypocrite or a liar. TC so your saying im either homophobic or a hypocrite cos i aint got no time for arse bandits .ya stupid twat .i cant stand f***ing muslims either .but i aint racist . that the trouble with fools like your self with all this human rights shite if we ,average joe speak out against whats morally wrong ,we are labelled homophobic .racist or has you label me a hypocrite .il say it again mate arseholes are for doing your buisiness out of .not for one excuse of a man to go and stick his old boy up the arsehole of another man .any man who does that is an odd ball .a wiljew .queer arse bandit .turd burglar .call em what ever mate .just cos he can throw a rugby ball about ,dont make it right in my eyes .now get your red pen and your blue pen and scribble where ever .but if the baby sitter got half his teeth missing and a rugby ball in his hand or a turban on tell em to fook of . Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 theirs always been queers on the tv larry grayson. dick emery. jimmy young an that other bender im free Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 theirs always been queers on the tv larry grayson. dick emery. jimmy young an that other bender im free never liked any of those c**ts Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 theirs always been queers on the tv larry grayson. dick emery. jimmy young an that other bender im free never liked any of those c**ts to many bad memories with uncle joe an his baldy rabbit lol Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 All Welsh are either queer or sheep shaggers ain't they? so last saturday .your national rugby side .was turned over and destroyed by a bunch of queers and sheep shaggers eh andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 theirs always been queers on the tv larry grayson. dick emery. jimmy young an that other bender im free 5 times married Dick emery gay? Possibly. Larry Grayson? NEVER!! Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 theirs always been queers on the tv larry grayson. dick emery. jimmy young an that other bender im free 5 times married Dick emery gay? Possibly. Larry Grayson? NEVER!! so was elton. dick was a khyber man Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'm with ray on this one. If I found out someone was gay I would think different of them, think we all would, even guys you've never met on here. If gnash turned round said he was gay, he'd lose my respect, same with lab etc. don't know why but they would. It's not f***ing normal even though the media is trying to tell us it is. spot on baw .i agree with you mate .as a sportsman he was one of the best full backs in the world in his era .and had legendary status in wales .but when you think of him doing what he does with another bloke .f***ing disgusting and in my book .theres something wrong upstairs ..its not my cup of tea .and if one of my boys came out id be devastated .would i let a poofter babysit my kids .would i hell .im not homophobic .but thats how i personally feel .and we are all entitled to a point of viewYou have got to be having a laugh....... TC why am i having a laugh ? you highlight in blue .and try to ridicule what i point out . why ? do you think its normal .to get into bed with another bloke and stick your prick up his arse etc . i think its disgusting mate and the bloke aint normal ,theres something lacking .if you dont see any thing wrong in that .well i wouldnt let you baby sit either .all this bollox about homophobia and the like .a load of bollox .hes a shirt lifter .and hes not my cup of tea and i wouldnt cross the road to see him .years ago he be called queer .cos hes odd .its not normal .if it was we would all be doing it .and mankind be no more ..why do you think arwell thomas was sent home years ago of tour and never played for wales again .cos thomas was caught shafting him .and thomas was blabbing and threatening to tell cos ruddock plugged parkers mrs .he only plugged her cos she gave him the come on .and thomas goes on national tv getting hysterical with eddie butler and on the point of thumping him .not long before he come out that was .im old school mate .and to me any man who wants to shaft another man is a queer mate and hes best left alone to do what ever but he wont be my mate. excuse the cliche but f**k him I highlighted in blue your statment. I then highlighted in red you stating that your not homophobic. You can tell by your post above that you clearly are homophobic. (thats fine, it's your perogative) But by denying that your are homophobic that makes you either a hypocrite or a liar. TC so your saying im either homophobic or a hypocrite cos i aint got no time for arse bandits .ya stupid twat .i cant stand f***ing muslims either .but i aint racist . that the trouble with fools like your self with all this human rights shite if we ,average joe speak out against whats morally wrong ,we are labelled homophobic .racist or has you label me a hypocrite .il say it again mate arseholes are for doing your buisiness out of .not for one excuse of a man to go and stick his old boy up the arsehole of another man .any man who does that is an odd ball .a wiljew .queer arse bandit .turd burglar .call em what ever mate .just cos he can throw a rugby ball about ,dont make it right in my eyes .now get your red pen and your blue pen and scribble where ever .but if the baby sitter got half his teeth missing and a rugby ball in his hand or a turban on tell em to fook of .What about f***ing a girl in the ass then? Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,036 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Dont make a difference at all to me, I do business with a few gay men and they are all cracking lads. If my boy rocked up one day and said he was a poof, it would not change how I feel about him one little bit. I would want to make sure he had all the information to keep himself safe and I would still willingly walk into the pit of hell with a smile on my face to keep him safe, same as I would any of my kids Wilf i hope its not rude to ask this......and ive only quoted your post because it rung a bell with me straight away,and from previous posts you sound like a pretty damn good parent to me !But a pal of mine recently went through the exact situation you mentioned......it took him near 2 years to even admit it to us and i could tell through knowing him years it absolutely broke his heart.......ive noticed small things over the months their relationship certainly seems different,ive spoke to him about it but he says its not.......but i can tell it is i think his pride is dented more than anything. So my question is this.......would it really not change anything at all if your lad came out with that ?.....do you think its one of those who knows till it happens kind of things ?.................and thats to anyone not necessarily Wilf............myself i think if we are really honest with ourself it would hurt and dissapoint any of us,it certainly would me......its one of those things we all try and think the right thoughts and say the right things but if it actually happened,i think a lot more of us if honest with ourself would be similar to Brookies thoughts. I would feel a failure as a parent if that happened gnash. I'd feel to blame just like you would if your son walked into a school and started shooting everyone. Before anyone says, no I'm not saying gays are serial killers just like I never said they were pedos. As a parent it's down to you to shape your kids life, do right from wrong, allow them to grow into responsible adults. Yes you need to allow them to find their own paths in life but shagging their same sex friends, that's a f***ing no no. I'd Definately make sure they knew it was wrong. Why would you feel a failure as a parant,,, you do understand its nature not nurture that makes folk gay,,, so no mater how good or bad a parant you are,,, being gay is just the way that person is. And for everyone saying its not natural,,, well I used to think like that , but now I'm not so sure,,, it's just the same in the animal world,, lots of gay creatures out there,, and I bet there a good few of you that have witnessed dogs that prefer other dogs to bitches,,, and I bet you gave there owners stick about I,, I know I have,,lol. Like some of you though I would hate my kids to be gay,,, however if they are I would not change the way I feel,,, 2 Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,087 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think the point of the media sexualising just about everything now is having a huge affect on our kids, my eldest girl is 14, she has an I phone and my wife checks it regularly( for her safety), she's honest with us ( to a degree lol) and most of the boys at her age access hard core porn everyday on there phones, I pods etc... It's a different world, kids expectation of sex now are entirely different to when we would find a smutty mag and take it to the den lol... Music videos are another thing again, half the time they are simulating sex, as Paulus said all of this should be on after the watershed, you can't monitor the tv every minute in a busy family household... Then you've got these ridiculous " celebrities" like Rylan, or Louie spence, ramming there over the top camp ways down your throat... They're not funny so why do much air time?? The worlds changed very quickly I would say in the last 10 to 15 years, technology now has taken over... As a parent all you can do is your best, educate, encourage and love.. After that what will be will be...... But I would still be disappointed if any of mine were gay, I don't think that makes me any worse of a parent or judgemental to gay people.... As for Gareth Thomas, I don't really care, it doesn't affect my life one bit.... My kids are grown up, but when they were younger I let them judge for them selves, never brain wash them, never checked there phones,I had trust in my kids, and all grown up done well, and all have open minds, did you think that TOM & JERRY WERE TO VIOLENT FOR YOUR KIDS I don't think there's any comparison between Tom and Jerry and the dangers of the Internet for children... I'm not hard line with my kids but at 14 I still feel we need to protect her, just recently my daughter had joined a social network ( don't know the name but not face book), my wife checked her phone and 2 men had contacted her in the first week, her replies were along the lines of "I don't know you so don't talk to me" type thing ( very sensible and confirming our trust in her).. But one continued messaging and asking for photos etc, he then sent her a naked photo of himself ( neck down)..... Now we're we wrong to snoop?? We sat her down and talked openly about the dangers, she was not in trouble, we treat her like an adult but she is still a kid... She will keep things from us obviously, she needs her freedom and life.. But I won't stop protecting her because I'm her dad that's my job... My other 2 are little they love Tom and Jerry lol I'm glad your kids have grown up the way you hoped they would mate.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Why would you feel a failure as a parant,,, you do understand its nature not nurture that makes folk gay,,, so no mater how good or bad a parant you are,,, being gay is just the way that person is. I think its perfectly understandable to think you had gone wrong somewhere down the line.....my pal is always saying he should of done more " butch " things with him as a kid taken him to sport mucked about with cars etc..............i often say to him your ten times the parent i ever was at least you was there by his side all his life.............and i agree,no matter how you try to " butch " up a kid you cant put in what nature left out...............dont mean to say we have to like it,but we DO have to accept it. Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'm with ray on this one. If I found out someone was gay I would think different of them, think we all would, even guys you've never met on here. If gnash turned round said he was gay, he'd lose my respect, same with lab etc. don't know why but they would. It's not f***ing normal even though the media is trying to tell us it is. spot on baw .i agree with you mate .as a sportsman he was one of the best full backs in the world in his era .and had legendary status in wales .but when you think of him doing what he does with another bloke .f***ing disgusting and in my book .theres something wrong upstairs ..its not my cup of tea .and if one of my boys came out id be devastated .would i let a poofter babysit my kids .would i hell .im not homophobic .but thats how i personally feel .and we are all entitled to a point of viewYou have got to be having a laugh....... TC why am i having a laugh ? you highlight in blue .and try to ridicule what i point out . why ? do you think its normal .to get into bed with another bloke and stick your prick up his arse etc . i think its disgusting mate and the bloke aint normal ,theres something lacking .if you dont see any thing wrong in that .well i wouldnt let you baby sit either .all this bollox about homophobia and the like .a load of bollox .hes a shirt lifter .and hes not my cup of tea and i wouldnt cross the road to see him .years ago he be called queer .cos hes odd .its not normal .if it was we would all be doing it .and mankind be no more ..why do you think arwell thomas was sent home years ago of tour and never played for wales again .cos thomas was caught shafting him .and thomas was blabbing and threatening to tell cos ruddock plugged parkers mrs .he only plugged her cos she gave him the come on .and thomas goes on national tv getting hysterical with eddie butler and on the point of thumping him .not long before he come out that was .im old school mate .and to me any man who wants to shaft another man is a queer mate and hes best left alone to do what ever but he wont be my mate. excuse the cliche but f**k him I highlighted in blue your statment. I then highlighted in red you stating that your not homophobic. You can tell by your post above that you clearly are homophobic. (thats fine, it's your perogative) But by denying that your are homophobic that makes you either a hypocrite or a liar. TC so your saying im either homophobic or a hypocrite cos i aint got no time for arse bandits .ya stupid twat .i cant stand f***ing muslims either .but i aint racist . that the trouble with fools like your self with all this human rights shite if we ,average joe speak out against whats morally wrong ,we are labelled homophobic .racist or has you label me a hypocrite .il say it again mate arseholes are for doing your buisiness out of .not for one excuse of a man to go and stick his old boy up the arsehole of another man .any man who does that is an odd ball .a wiljew .queer arse bandit .turd burglar .call em what ever mate .just cos he can throw a rugby ball about ,dont make it right in my eyes .now get your red pen and your blue pen and scribble where ever .but if the baby sitter got half his teeth missing and a rugby ball in his hand or a turban on tell em to fook of .What about f***ing a girl in the ass then? thats only a fetish you have lab. whats the point in kicking in the back door when the front doors laying open Link to post Share on other sites
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