paulus 26 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 i would go for a first cross collie grey, it will do all you want no problem if you are even a moderately skilled trainer. water, carrying feather, cover etc. as for hancock, i have seen some first class workers bred by him. if you dont want to go down that route you might have to really search and wait for a genuine first cross. if you get something bred from two collie based lurchers you have no guarantee how it will turn out; i have seen dogs bred from two first crosses whwich turned out just about pure greyhound, and i seen them just about pure collie. a line bred collie grey from a true breeding strain would work but i doubt you will be able to get one, there are precious few true strains and they are usually booked long before they are born, given to trusted friends First x can all go tits up for a moderately skilled trainer pretty quickly - if I was advising a first timer/youngster to for for a collie x I might suggest a 3/4 bred - they can be less of a challenge...just my opinon...and experience... i agree, 3/4 bred better choice for a novice. i dont think a first timer/youngster is moderately skilled at all, i would class them as unskilled. Yeah - fair comment mate - however, I have seen moderately skilled trainers unable to cope with the collie psyche...and then turn to drink/drugs... and bull xs... :laugh: Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) if they cant cope with the collie psyche.......................THEY AINT MODERATELY SKILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! personally, i am highly skilled.................i just cant cope with the saluki psyche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited March 22, 2013 by beast 2 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) This is an interesting subject.. I'm just a moucher/ferreter,..so I don't need super lurcher,...but, I have found, that 'train-ability' is not exclusive to seemingly brainy dogs,..and 'tractability' (and a willingness, to accept training and instruction),..is often found in several types of dog, that one might not think were obviously canny,.. or sagacious .... Edited March 23, 2013 by CHALKWARREN 2 Quote Link to post
Neal 1,869 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Only a tad off topic, but did anybody see last night's Countryfile? I missed the beginning section but caught a bit on hefting on the Welsh borders and the shepherd had a number of interesting looking dogs. Quote Link to post
gravedigger 87 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Mine has collie on dams side of the breeding....workin welsh hill collie....but you can see it in him when he starts stalking something like a collie lol...also found him to be quite amenable to training when he was a pup.....unlike a saluki blooded dog I had years ago who would all of a sudden have a deafness attack !!!!!! Lol...my friend had a 3/4 bred years ago an it took anything he aimed it at.......but it could be quite possessive whith a catch concerning other dogs....good luck with whatever you choose..... Quote Link to post
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