jonansuki 21 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 from my experience i would never keep any thing else but a collie x they are well clever can do just as much as a bull x can and more they bring there prey back instead of eating the f****n thing when they catch it honestly i would go with this cross any day and please dont go to hancock there are loads of lads with the real deal on here even if you have to wait a couple of months for a litter hancock is only after cash were as the lads on here actually get there dog out put time and effort into them and you will be set for a good few years of hunting good luck in your choice and post some pics if you get 1 mate 1 Quote Link to post
owendbowendb 132 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Hi all, I`m looking for a good working dog for rabbits/lamping and ferreting and also to work as a gundog,i`ve heard that the collie lurcher first cross is a really clever and capable dog and would fulfill these roles. You lurcher men really seem to know your dogs and hopefuly might help me with your knowledge of these lurchers. Also guys what are the opinions of buying such a dog from a specialist breeder such as Hancocks ? Thankyou for any advice. Mark. I know of a litter of collie lurchers mate if your intrested. Sire is my collie grey X whippet 24 tts 5 years old, he does me alrite , Damn collie grey x Deer grey 26 tts 9 years old , bred to keep one back for the bitches owner. there was seven pups most are booked up but maybe one spare. they should do what your looking for in a dog if you put the time in Quote Link to post
Beddy greyhound 9 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'd to for 3:4 grey 1:4 collie Quote Link to post
owendbowendb 132 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 A cross I was going to get myself but finding a decent litter bred for the right reasons out of proper working dogs are not that common mate. Its upto the buyer if they go to hancock as its the easy option but not for me , your more likely to come across collie based lurcher litters where the pups have been bred to carry on there stock , A pup raised in a family enviroment is always a bonus 1 Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'd to for 3:4 grey 1:4 collie what to use as a gun dog 1 Quote Link to post
owendbowendb 132 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I wouldnt get one as a gun dog ....but for ther other aspects of the work a collie lurcher would suit his needs. depending what type of hunting he would be doing most would influence his choice of dog Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 he just wants a dog that he can use for picking up & take a few rabbits now & again, a 1/2x be it a collie or a lab would be perfect imo as long as the goalposts don't change Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 he just wants a dog that he can use for picking up & take a few rabbits now & again, a 1/2x be it a collie or a lab would be perfect imo as long as the goalposts don't change personally if i was picking up beating bit general work drakeshed lab x grey should fit the billl fine the love of water from the lab will be a major plus . atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post
Rory4 267 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 One the first x pups on Facebook would great for that Quote Link to post
gvc 491 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 what i would say out of coincidence , looked at is site ,the welps for sale . ANYone with any knowledge of dogs in general take one look at those for sale it is there to see look at there body language there eyes there general demeanour ill say no more . ps there was one lttle black bitch with a sparkle in her eye . atb bunnys who influences the pups life more 8 weeks with hancock or rest of its life with the owner atleast you know what you are getting and isnt easy to find collie x to be fair ive seen some very good hancock bred dogs, this one is a belter.It certainly looks like a well put together dog. Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 i would go for a first cross collie grey, it will do all you want no problem if you are even a moderately skilled trainer. water, carrying feather, cover etc. as for hancock, i have seen some first class workers bred by him. if you dont want to go down that route you might have to really search and wait for a genuine first cross. if you get something bred from two collie based lurchers you have no guarantee how it will turn out; i have seen dogs bred from two first crosses whwich turned out just about pure greyhound, and i seen them just about pure collie. a line bred collie grey from a true breeding strain would work but i doubt you will be able to get one, there are precious few true strains and they are usually booked long before they are born, given to trusted friends Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 i would go for a first cross collie grey, it will do all you want no problem if you are even a moderately skilled trainer. water, carrying feather, cover etc. as for hancock, i have seen some first class workers bred by him. if you dont want to go down that route you might have to really search and wait for a genuine first cross. if you get something bred from two collie based lurchers you have no guarantee how it will turn out; i have seen dogs bred from two first crosses whwich turned out just about pure greyhound, and i seen them just about pure collie. a line bred collie grey from a true breeding strain would work but i doubt you will be able to get one, there are precious few true strains and they are usually booked long before they are born, given to trusted friends First x can all go tits up for a moderately skilled trainer pretty quickly - if I was advising a first timer/youngster to for for a collie x I might suggest a 3/4 bred - they can be less of a challenge...just my opinon...and experience... 2 Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Hi all, I`m looking for a good working dog for rabbits/lamping and ferreting and also to work as a gundog,i`ve heard that the collie lurcher first cross is a really clever and capable dog and would fulfill these roles. You lurcher men really seem to know your dogs and hopefuly might help me with your knowledge of these lurchers. Also guys what are the opinions of buying such a dog from a specialist breeder such as Hancocks ? Thankyou for any advice. Mark. I know of a litter of collie lurchers mate if your intrested. Sire is my collie grey X whippet 24 tts 5 years old, he does me alrite , Damn collie grey x Deer grey 26 tts 9 years old , bred to keep one back for the bitches owner. there was seven pups most are booked up but maybe one spare. they should do what your looking for in a dog if you put the time in bloody hell dont time fly ,...........i remember it like yesterday when he was a pup....... Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 i would go for a first cross collie grey, it will do all you want no problem if you are even a moderately skilled trainer. water, carrying feather, cover etc. as for hancock, i have seen some first class workers bred by him. if you dont want to go down that route you might have to really search and wait for a genuine first cross. if you get something bred from two collie based lurchers you have no guarantee how it will turn out; i have seen dogs bred from two first crosses whwich turned out just about pure greyhound, and i seen them just about pure collie. a line bred collie grey from a true breeding strain would work but i doubt you will be able to get one, there are precious few true strains and they are usually booked long before they are born, given to trusted friends First x can all go tits up for a moderately skilled trainer pretty quickly - if I was advising a first timer/youngster to for for a collie x I might suggest a 3/4 bred - they can be less of a challenge...just my opinon...and experience... i agree, 3/4 bred better choice for a novice. i dont think a first timer/youngster is moderately skilled at all, i would class them as unskilled. Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 i would go for a first cross collie grey, it will do all you want no problem if you are even a moderately skilled trainer. water, carrying feather, cover etc. as for hancock, i have seen some first class workers bred by him. if you dont want to go down that route you might have to really search and wait for a genuine first cross. if you get something bred from two collie based lurchers you have no guarantee how it will turn out; i have seen dogs bred from two first crosses whwich turned out just about pure greyhound, and i seen them just about pure collie. a line bred collie grey from a true breeding strain would work but i doubt you will be able to get one, there are precious few true strains and they are usually booked long before they are born, given to trusted friends First x can all go tits up for a moderately skilled trainer pretty quickly - if I was advising a first timer/youngster to for for a collie x I might suggest a 3/4 bred - they can be less of a challenge...just my opinon...and experience... i agree, 3/4 bred better choice for a novice. i dont think a first timer/youngster is moderately skilled at all, i would class them as unskilled. Yeah - fair comment mate - however, I have seen moderately skilled trainers unable to cope with the collie psyche...and then turn to drink/drugs... and bull xs... 2 Quote Link to post
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