riohog 5,748 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 True what DownSouth said, if it was any other breed nobody would care. If you've got a bull that loves a scrap don't walk it on a park full of dogs, keep it on a lead and at least have a f***ing collar on the dog so if it does get into another dog you can grab a hold. the c..nt that has got that dog has it as a status symble . it wouldnt be seen as cool for him to have lets say a lab or something he is fully aware of what its capable of , hes a ashole end of thank goodness it wasnt a child 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,429 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 True what DownSouth said, if it was any other breed nobody would care. If you've got a bull that loves a scrap don't walk it on a park full of dogs, keep it on a lead and at least have a f***ing collar on the dog so if it does get into another dog you can grab a hold. Mince.....of course they would care. Ok nobody would be wanting to hang the owner from a tree and stab them to death in fact it would never have been on FB and if it was nobody would have given it a second look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 It is a sickening image, but nobody knows how this happened. People jumping to conclusions and advocating extreme physical violence with added racist comments. This picture could have been posted with a narrative of how the Asian lad had come to the aid of a dog being attacked, but that maybe wouldn't have satisfied the deep racist bigotry of some on this site. I feel the urge to quote Gunnery Sargeant Hartman in "Full Metal Jacket" - " There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, wops, kykes or greasers......Here, you are all equally worthless ! " 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,583 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 True what DownSouth said, if it was any other breed nobody would care.If you've got a bull that loves a scrap don't walk it on a park full of dogs, keep it on a lead and at least have a f***ing collar on the dog so if it does get into another dog you can grab a hold.Mince.....of course they would care.Ok nobody would be wanting to hang the owner from a tree and stab them to death in fact it would never have been on FB and if it was nobody would have given it a second look. It seems like you think this is just folk having a go at bull breeds, that may be the case on FB but not from me it isn't , I just happen to think that bull breeds are serious animals to be taken seriously, much more seriously than your common or garden Lab, pointer or mongrel . I like bull breeds, I just think people take liberties around them sometimes. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorkyJohn 808 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 If that was my KC it would have been my priority to end that bull terriers life not take f***ing photos, in her defence she's obviously just a clueless pet owner for her to surmise the bulls breeding. I'm guessing this probably isnt the first time Amir has had this happen, just another idiot walking a status symbol with little knowledge of the damage they can do. Hopefully the dog is destroyed & Amir never keeps another dog. As to trusting dogs, my kids safety comes first therefore I will never ever fully trust a dog no matter what breed.....theres always a chance, is it worth the risk? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 IMHO owning any type of decent bull breed is like owning a gun, only those with a some knowledge of what they are doing should be allowed to do it. But, government ban the work that the dogs were intended for and they fall into the hands of idiots.......a dog of this type with no outlet for its nature in the hands of a fool is a bad combination to me It's certainly true that some of these dogs don't belong in public, they were never meant to be paraded around parks in the first place.....their kennel and their work is the only place for some dogs There is a family just been housed at the end of my street, scumbags moved on from another place....they have the obligatory big American bulldog......it's a f***ing machine but they allow the little kids to walk it about !! If this dog decided to turn for any reason there is not much an adult could do, never mind a child.......buffoons, absolute buffoons ! That's a bit much isn't it? Sounds like a newspaper headline "owning a bull breed is like owning a gun". People need to stop blaming breeds when any decent dog owner can see it's always down to the owner. Just because small men want a hard looking dog to hide behind doesn't mean it's the dogs fault. Also, there is nothing wrong with letting kids around a dog of any size, what gives you such opinions that you are so judgmental of breeds instead of the scum on the other end of the lead where the blame really lies? Please don't say that I 'clearly don't know what a true gamebred dog acts like' etc I am being serious. I don't think it's a bit strong because its my opinion, but I will concede that all you say holds true if you believe in " nurture" over " nature".......I don't and I believe that , however bred out it may be, it is in these type of dogs very DNA to do serious damage to stuff.....you just need to press the right buttons. If you don't have a healthy respect for this type of animal and regard them as just another everyday pet then I would say you probably shouldn't own one Not saying I'm right or your wrong, just my opinion Fair enough, I am definitely in the nurture and rehabilitation set of beliefs. My current and last dogs have both been rescue dogs kept by total assholes who shouldn't have any. My last dog was a badly socialised rottweiler that was kept in a yard, covered in sores and was neurotic but we took him on and he turned in to a great and very soft dog. I couldn't trust him 100% because I am not daft, but the only issues he had were inflicted on him and he got over everything except he would flinch when strangers moved a hand towards him too fast. My current dog is a staffy, kept indoors on a treadmill by a welll known chavvy scum family who had him on a treadmill to look hard, but the warden didn' take him back to them after his 5th escape and we have him. He is completely trustworthy and I have no fears with him off lead around any dogs or children and is the daftest bugger of a dog I have known. So just these two examples go against everything I have ever read in a newspaper and I have seen many pits that were bred from workers that were family pets and trustworthy too, even a retired worker that could be trusted with children...not other dogs obviously. Also, lab your new avatar is proper gay fair play fella taking on rescued dogs,but still i have learnt that i cant guarantee every dog i own will never bite me.... just some thing i ve learn t lately. a dog carnt speak so the only way it can express is feelings is by mouth or teeth. True and I agree about a naive child getting a bite if it accidentally hurts a dog. But there is a big difference between a warning bite and full on aggression, any animal will defend itself and that's something parents and owners take in to account. But that doesn't make a dog untrustworthy, it just means kids need to learn how to behave around a dog and not push it to the limit, as I said any animal including humans have a breaking point and finding it doesn't prove anything. A parent who lets their kid climb over a dog and pull its eyelids is in the wrong, not a dog that would growl and nip as that's what it would do to any pup that crosses the line...Anyway it's universal and imo the worst dogs I come across for aggression are collies, you get more nips and barks from terriers but that's just the way they tend to be whereas collies can be nasty buggers...chocolate labs are a close second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 iv been around collies most of my life and nobodys ever been bit by any of ours. they can be protective and wary of new people though. any dog can bite at the end of the day just some have better tools. iv been chewed by a big mongrel myself still got the scar, but you cant judge one dogs nature by breed just because of knob heads its not the dogs fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 iv been chewed by a big mongrel myself I got chewed by this big bitch myself, one time. And she swallowed. She was just dur ~ tay! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 The bottom line in this instance was the owner wasn t in control of his dog regardless of the type of dog it was,any one owning a bull x breed should be more aware of it s potential and exercise more security when out walking these breeds. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 iv been chewed by a big mongrel myself I got chewed by this big bitch myself, one time. And she swallowed. She was just dur ~ tay! this was a big black hairy fooker deffinatly not my cup of tea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 If that was my KC it would have been my priority to end that bull terriers life not take f***ing photos, in her defence she's obviously just a clueless pet owner for her to surmise the bulls breeding. I'm guessing this probably isnt the first time Amir has had this happen, just another idiot walking a status symbol with little knowledge of the damage they can do. Hopefully the dog is destroyed & Amir never keeps another dog. As to trusting dogs, my kids safety comes first therefore I will never ever fully trust a dog no matter what breed.....theres always a chance, is it worth the risk? I have friends who live on as large estate (shan't say where !) that seems to be populated with a***-holes who parade around with a shark on a lead. Cropped hair, mis-spelt tattos, stinking of cannnabis - we all know the kind !! Those people, and the Paki in the pix, are doing an enormous injustice to one of the finest breeds on the earth. After the humble chicken, Staffords must be the most abused and misunderstood animal there is !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,819 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 It is a sickening image, but nobody knows how this happened. People jumping to conclusions and advocating extreme physical violence with added racist comments. This picture could have been posted with a narrative of how the Asian lad had come to the aid of a dog being attacked, but that maybe wouldn't have satisfied the deep racist bigotry of some on this site. f**k off paki lover. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 The bottom line in this instance was the owner wasn t in control of his dog regardless of the type of dog it was,any one owning a bull x breed should be more aware of it s potential and exercise more security when out walking these breeds. If you're a dog owner, the buck stops with you !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Havent looked at the video, havent read most of the bravado bullshit replies that no doubt will have been posted, but. if anyone is ever in this situation with their dog on the end of some peice of shit that wont let go. Remain calm, take the biting dogs back leg in hand and snap it over your knee, no more effort than breaking a stick. The biting dog WILL let go when you start pulling streching its sinews.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigdog Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Havent looked at the video, havent read most of the bravado bullshit replies that no doubt will have been posted, but. if anyone is ever in this situation with their dog on the end of some peice of shit that wont let go. Remain calm, take the biting dogs back leg in hand and snap it over your knee, no more effort than breaking a stick. The biting dog WILL let go when you start pulling streching its sinews.... alright rambo calm down 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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