Guest MOLLY Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Mine get a combination of everything from pups, raw, Eukanuba, tinned and table scraps. For one simple reason. I think its prevents them from having sensitive tummies when older. How many times do you hear about dogs unable to eat this and that because they have been fed only one thing since weaning. So now when mine eat something long dead and decomposed they find outside i rarely get dogs squirting all over the house As adults they get mainly raw with a small amount of Eukanuba. This combination seems to suit mine. MOLL. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Porridge oats mixed with half milk and half water and a egg for breakfast.Meal mixed with meat (raw,cooked) or tin of tuna flakes for lunch lift what it dont eat and give same for tea Bed him down on a night with a drink of half milk half water and a egg. Goats milk watered down or powdered calfs milk mixed at a low dosage(very rich) is better than cows milk. skycat in a complete diet SA37 would not be necessary. Iam not being funny just an observation Not being funny either, but why give milk once an animal is weaned? Also, filling up a pup's stomach with watery milk is simply leaving less room for important stuff like meat: the protein that makes them grow. Wild dogs and wolves don't get slops and they grow just fine. Re SA37: this is just to make sure that you haven't missed out on anything important in the way of vitamins or minerals, though I do agree that a PROPERLY COMPLETE DIET should contain everything necessary. Pic of pup reared totally on raw food. No milk, no cereals: just meat, bones, a bit of veg and the odd eggs and fish: and she shares my youghurt of a morning. LOL She is 7 months here....... Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Also: someone said: Feed a puppy a stricktly raw diet and ul end up in bother rickets(calcium deficiency). How on earth can a pup suffer from rickets if it is getting whole carcases: meat bones etc? If you only feed red meat then of course it will be defficient in a lot of things, but NOT if you feed correctly: see my earlier post. Don't get sucked in by the manufacturer's horror stories! I will admit that if you have neither the time or inclination to feed the raw diet properly then you might just as well go and buy a bag of good quality food, as long as it isn't packed full of beet pulp, soya and all the other things the cheaper foods contain to bring down the cost and bulk a dog out. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) . Edited May 18, 2008 by joe ox Quote Link to post
Guest POT FILLER Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 SKYCATS RIGHT THIS PUP I HAVE ON HERE AS BEEN ONLY FED RAW FOOD SHES NEVER HAD ANY FORM OF KIBBLE OR TINNED CRAP HER ENERGY IS UNBELEIVABLE A FEW MATES I KNOW SWEAR BY FEEDING DRY FOOD WITH MINCE ADDED I DONT SEE THE POINT IN ADDING DRY COMPLETE TO RAW MEAT ,YOU GIVE ONE OR THE OTHER ALSO WHATS THE POINT IN BOILING MEAT UP YOUR TAKING THE GOODNESS OUT OF IT Quote Link to post
MIKE 18 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Skycat is spot on .................got two lurchers here fed solely on a good barf diet from the time I got them (6 weeks) this is the only way I will feed . Here they are at around 7 months old........... Each to their own but IMO barf is by far the better diet ........... Mike Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Excuse my ignorance but whats barf? Quote Link to post
MIKE 18 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Excuse my ignorance but whats barf? B.A.R.F..........Bones And Raw Food ...........Raw meat and vegetables and raw meaty bones Quote Link to post
steve66 3,406 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Excuse my ignorance but whats barf? B.A.R.F..........Bones And Raw Food ...........Raw meat and vegetables and raw meaty bones Does that mean the veg is raw as well ? Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) well wilf iam proberly going to get some folk saying iam wrong ..but imo its to rich for a young dog and it upsets there stomach and gives them the squirts ....so i think they should be eased into a full raw diet ...this is just my way off thinking .. people will say what about the wolf or wild dog pups they dont get biccys ..but they do get how the fook do you spell regurgtated food off there mothers when weeks old and its broken down by the mothers stomach acids so its already taken some of the richness out so to speak .. its not just because they cant chew it .... ..its hard for me to explain my views in writing.. but over a beer i could bore the arse of you talking about it .....what do you think wilf am i talking shite ?? we all have our own ways i suppose ....i like to think i know a little about bringing a pup on and getting a dog fit ..not everthing but a little ... do this make sense to you .??? I dont think your talking shite at all Snoopy mate..........not my way, but hey............your dogs pal I dont feed very rich type raw (liver etc).........but I did let my pup have a good old knaw on a skinned rabbit from 7 weeks old. And fed raw from the word go........the dog does not carry an once of fat on him........which I think go,s to show how much fat is added to commercial dog food. I also monitor the amounts and can up it or drop it as I need.........some would call me a fanny ............I have found that the pup had no trouble chewing raw. The pup is about 8 or 9 months old in these piccys....... Edited July 27, 2007 by WILF Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Excuse my ignorance but whats barf? B.A.R.F..........Bones And Raw Food ...........Raw meat and vegetables and raw meaty bones Does that mean the veg is raw as well ? Yes the veg is fed raw too: mince it up finely or put in a blender with a bit of water: the reason you do this is cos dogs' stomachs can't break down plant fibre the same way they do meat: when I used to get whole tripes from the slaughterhouse I always got it unwashed: there was loads of half digested grass stuck in it and the dogs loved it: that's one of the reasons dogs like eating horse and cow shit: for the vitamins and minerals from the plants.. By mincing or blending raw veg finely you imitate nature. Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) well wilf iam proberly going to get some folk saying iam wrong ..but imo its to rich for a young dog and it upsets there stomach and gives them the squirts ....so i think they should be eased into a full raw diet ...this is just my way off thinking .. people will say what about the wolf or wild dog pups they dont get biccys ..but they do get how the fook do you spell regurgtated food off there mothers when weeks old and its broken down by the mothers stomach acids so its already taken some of the richness out so to speak .. its not just because they cant chew it .... ..its hard for me to explain my views in writing.. but over a beer i could bore the arse of you talking about it .....what do you think wilf am i talking shite ?? we all have our own ways i suppose ....i like to think i know a little about bringing a pup on and getting a dog fit ..not everthing but a little ... do this make sense to you .??? I dont think your talking shite at all Snoopy mate..........not my way, but hey............your dogs pal I dont feed very rich type raw (liver etc).........but I did let my pup have a good old knaw on a skinned rabbit from 7 weeks old. And fed raw from the word go........the dog does not carry an once of fat on him........which I think go,s to show how much fat is added to commercial dog food. I also monitor the amounts and can up it or drop it as I need.........some would call me a fanny ............I have found that the pup had no trouble chewing raw. The pup is about 8 or 9 months old in these piccys....... like you say wilf we all have our own ways and at the end of the day i would say 90% off folk who hunt with there dogs look after and feed them better than any other dog owners .. ...thats a fact ....iam not altogether stuck in my ways and if i thougth somthing could better my dogs i would try it .. e.g. diet fittness and healthcare ... ps.....very nice looking pup wilf ...seems to have saluki in its blood Edited July 27, 2007 by snoopdog Quote Link to post
martin 332 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Skycat is spot on .................got two lurchers here fed solely on a good barf diet from the time I got them (6 weeks) this is the only way I will feed .Here they are at around 7 months old........... Each to their own but IMO barf is by far the better diet ........... Mike I fed my JRT pup on BARF from 7wks and she is like a canine dynamo,this is the first dog I've fed like this,and,the difference is incredible.Funnily enough,they don't need as much food either,so I would say that shows that they are getting more out of the raw. IMO.............................Martin. By the way the Black dog looks superb MIKE! Quote Link to post
axle 63 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 hmmmmmmmmm what alot of confusing advice to expect a beginer to understand. Raw feed is great, if you know what you are doing but can cause problems that a novice may not pick up on. Surely the best thing would be to feed a good complete feed that has everything the dog needs in it. I've bred and trained dogs for longer than i care to remember ( top open class greyhounds to hard digging terriers) and have spent hours cooking and prepairing all sorts of different feeds but to be honest with you a good complete dried food is just as good and much easier to do. I have used Beta for years now and find it great to rear pups and then go through the range to one that suits a working dog or a resting dog (lower protien) no problems with the runs when changing the protien level as its basically the same feed. Spend more time with your dog and less time in the kitchen. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Spend more time with your dog and less time in the kitchen. Quote Link to post
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