Anyone Run/ran Reverse 3/4 Collie X Greyhound

[Rake aboot 4,935]

Fuji you sell the don dog short in the looks dept,he's a fine animal imo. strong,durable and obviously quick enough for his job.

I would imagine he would throw awesome pot fillers put to a good working whippet.

 

 

I`m not sure he does sell it short actually !! hahahahaha

 

 

When I first seen this cross, I thought it looked hopeless,, to short in the legs to be a runner of any description,, and twice I have come to realise that they can be great workers.

 

Fujis Don dog, is not much to look at AS A LURCHER ! fine dog, but not what everyone would call a lurcher, but as you can see, it does the job, and having met the dog, it`s a very canny beast,, a likeable dog.

 

Then there is Kittlerox,, have a look at his Roxy, no way would anyone see a lurcher in her,, she just looks like a short collie x dog,, but I know for a fact that she does the buisness on a regular basis. I am constantly telling him to line her with somit leggy, but as he says,, the short legged little bugger catches enough for him, so he`s happy.

 

Too much collie has never been a preference for me,, Half is ideal in my book, 3/4 for a pacier dog, but there is no doubt that it suits some folk to a tee

[bigdaz 688]

To be honest I've never seen the point of a three quarter collie, to my mind a racy collie would do the same job, at the other side a first cross would be as biddable have as much stamina and be capable again of doing the same job as a three quarter collie. I don't think you need go any further into collie than a straight first cross.

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

yrs ago took a ład out on my spot and the dogs was outclassed all night but on his rough

dune covered land during the day his dog took plenty of bolted rabbits .

As a mooching pet dog then maybe ideal

[Neal 1,869]

I had a 3/4 collie 1/4 greyhound from Hancock's third litter of Richard x Linnet. There's actually a photo of his as a pup on page 41 of "A Question Of Lurchers," he's the slightly dopey looking one with the wonky white markings behind the board.

 

As has already been said above, they have a deceptive appearance as they're more racy under that profuse coat than you'd think. They also have immense stamina and a hide like a rhino. Mine once snagged his coat on a strand of barbed wire which was hanging down from a fence; he gave a grunt and pulled himself free leaving not a mark on him but a clump of blue merle fluff on the tines.

 

However, as has also been said, although he suited the place I was living at the time (Coniston) he'd have been too hot down 'ere in 'Am'shire.

 

He had a lovely, easy-going character and is probably the lurcher that I miss the most.

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Had several heavy collie blooded dogs and came to the conclusion 1/4 collie is about right.

For my area when i needed a dog for taking, rabbits and bonus bigger stuff

[KittleRox 2,147]

Good thread this, not because I have reverse ( 1/2 collie 1/4 bull 1/4 grey ) and I,m biased but theres a few good points being made, interesting stuff, some which echo my experience with my own cur,

 

Lamping she would probably drive folk with less patience up the wall, I must admit I get slightly frustrated myself with her style of running sometimes, that being said I like to see a dog using its brains and calculating which mines does, if a bunny looks like its going to hedge hop she,ll gauge it and wait or maybe put in a half hearted run, however if she gauges it and reckons she,s in with a chance she,ll go up the gears, a big plus with her is she,ll follow rabbits into cover and counts for many this way, call it " hedge bouncing" if you like but she puts them in the bag

 

Ferreting, superb, beats the whippet to the bolting bunny 95 % of the time, you may be thinking surely the whippet would be quicker off the mark but the collie brains cancels pace out while ferreting

 

Bushing, whippet has her outclassed

 

obvious downfalls of this type are obviously lack of pace and the ability to take bigger edible stuff if you should take the fancy lol

 

another thing is peoples suggestions like, " you should put a greyhound over her" or "you should line that with a whippet" my answer to that would be " if I did that the pups wouldn,t be curs" although sometimes I can see there point lol, cheers

 

a couple of hours local, a very decent bag for round here

 

[Fretwell 59 15]

I have a 3/4 welsh collie x he hunts in and out of cover like he's after a dog on heat and he runs what ever is in front of him I chouldn't ask for more from him really

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[pritch 335]

To be honest I've never seen the point of a three quarter collie, to my mind a racy collie would do the same job, at the other side a first cross would be as biddable have as much stamina and be capable again of doing the same job as a three quarter collie. I don't think you need go any further into collie than a straight first cross.

daz do you think anyone breeding a 3/4 collie ain't gonna use a racy one,an putting

it to a half cross ain't gonna slow it down & a 1st cross won't have as much stamina i

can assure you of that i've had both & now have a 9/16 collie which i bred by putting

my 3/8 collie over my 3/4 & none come close to the stamina of the 3/4 as has been

said they lack a gear & if i was after a lamping dog i wouldn't go for the 3/4 & if the land

was mainly pasture nor would i go that way but on moorland or scrubby land or in woods

you wouldn't go far wrong for a general knockabout mooching/ ferreting dog. are they the be all & end all, no but as a one for the pot catch anywhere cur you won't go far wrong & if

your the sort that likes to watch a dog work you'll have plenty of fun along the way.

[bigdaz 688]

Pritch, each to their own mate and what suits one man might not suit another, also there's the variation in dogs the same way bred.

Kittlerox you're dog endorses that point, that's a fine looking animal to be only a quarter greyhound, if you'd said it was a first cross I'd have believed you without question.

[Neal 1,869]

My old 3/4 collie had almost endless stamina and a "gay" tail. I only wore him out once and that was when I walked all round Coniston Water in one day via the fells on both sides. I knew he was knackered because he finally dropped his tail for the last couple of miles. On the same day, while walking north through Grizedale, we heard a fire engine set off from Coniston and he charged along the track, with his head held high, howling like a coyote.

 

It's a difficult question, and very subjective re how much base-blood to have in a lurcher. I've never gone further down the racy route than half greyhound or whippet but that's because I prefer the working style and character of pastoral saturated dogs.

[Sirius 1,391]

I would like to know if anyone has had a dog of this breeding that worked well in the southern counties of England consistently.

 

I can't see any benefit over a dog with more sighthound for lamping or ferreting down here.

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

all boils down to the land you work on, i have permision on golf courses and playing fields a smart but slower dog hasnt a chance,

you need a fast dog that will strike at anything , rabbits running at wire fences , sheds etc

[BrianSteven72 369]

wouldnt be my choice for a lamping dog seen first cross collie/greys with no gears,so i couldnt see them being anywhere near quick enough apart from the odd 1 or 2,but as a mooching dog,ferreting dog it would be ideal for the job.

same as above nowhere near fast enough for me !!!

[KittleRox 2,147]

Pritch, each to their own mate and what suits one man might not suit another, also there's the variation in dogs the same way bred.

Kittlerox you're dog endorses that point, that's a fine looking animal to be only a quarter greyhound, if you'd said it was a first cross I'd have believed you without question.

Cheers bud, I suppose I was a bit lucky with the way she shaped up, although if I should accidently fence hop with her I,m less likely to get hassle

[FUJI 17,327]

I would like to know if anyone has had a dog of this breeding that worked well in the southern counties of England consistently.

I can't see any benefit over a dog with more sighthound for lamping or ferreting down here.

It's all about having the correct tool for the job at hand Sirius ..you could ask the very same question about the dog that excels down your way being on par or better than the cur x where it excels in certain areas? Like I said earlier my dog will run in places many wouldn't even let their dog off the leash,it's not that I don't give a hoot about the dogs welfare it's just he prefers to run on it..my other bitch who is his half sister is like a ballerina dancer on some of the ground I run...being truthful she looks half hearted on it but put them both on a seeded field lol and well it's a different story..I use them to their strengths,obviously sometimes you have to try and do the job not having the right tool and you do the best you can...my mutts are about done for the season now but the cur x put a couple of big fine fellas horizontal a couple of days back in treacherous underfoot conditions and the bitch had her conditions this morning and mullered another..we will be eating like royalty for a wee while now lol...it's all about using a bit of common sense when working dogs or it should be?...play to the strengths of YOUR mutt..it will put more gear in the game bag and less chance of sickening the mutt and giving it the opportunity to even contemplate the thought of being over matched and heaven forbid jacking...Atb Andy