Dogs Killed By Farmer

[Malt 379]

The dogs were handed to him on leads, ie: Under control.. Sure the law states a dog can only be shot in the act of worrying sheep and out of control, don't it? Even if the dogs had been worrying sheep at an earlier time, he ain't allowed to destroy them once they're under control as a punishment..

[fitchet 788]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do landowners shoot dogs ?? Even if they are worrying sheep it causes so much hassle whats the point ??

It doesn't cause any hassle if done legally. It's done obviously to prevent hundreds if not thousands of pounds worth of damage to your livelihood.

Yes it does. You ever shot one or been there when ones been shot by a landowner ?? I saw one shot a couple of weeks ago for worrying sheep and the landowner done all that was necessary to stay within the law but even the police spoke to him like shit. The sheep have since been shot at with crossbows fences turned off farm equipment stolen windows smashed ect.

 

So to anyone whos shot stock worriers before was it worth it ?

Right, so one legitimate case that caused trouble....................... I'm sure there are others of course but I would say the majority end much better than that.

 

Only the other week I was speaking to an old friend that farms sheep who had to shoot one of his tups after a mauling, he wanted to know if I knew any lads running dogs around his place. Anyway his concern was that it was the local pikeys and would cause hell if he shot a dog. But what's the alternative? Just sit by idley while someone kils your bussiness? No f**k that, you use what tools you have and deal with it. Possibly damned if you do, certainly damned if you don't!

Nope id say most cases end like that. Ive been there enough times and seen the aftermath. If my dogs were shot i would be pissed off even if i totally understood. Let alone your average idiot who has no knowledge of the impact him and his dogs are making to someones livelihood. You can quote the law all you like but generally people who have just had there dog shot arnt too worried about it.

[Paid 935]

The dogs were handed to him on leads, ie: Under control.. Sure the law states a dog can only be shot in the act of worrying sheep and out of control, don't it? Even if the dogs had been worrying sheep at an earlier time, he ain't allowed to destroy them once they're under control as a punishment..

 

I agree its not on to shoot them under these conditions, but he could of had dealings with them before, is all i was getting at. she obviously has her horse nearby, maybe these 2 dogs have been an on going problem for him, and he took his chance when he could. One is a husky cross, and they can be proper c**ts around stock.

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do landowners shoot dogs ?? Even if they are worrying sheep it causes so much hassle whats the point ??

It doesn't cause any hassle if done legally. It's done obviously to prevent hundreds if not thousands of pounds worth of damage to your livelihood.

Yes it does. You ever shot one or been there when ones been shot by a landowner ?? I saw one shot a couple of weeks ago for worrying sheep and the landowner done all that was necessary to stay within the law but even the police spoke to him like shit. The sheep have since been shot at with crossbows fences turned off farm equipment stolen windows smashed ect.

 

So to anyone whos shot stock worriers before was it worth it ?

Right, so one legitimate case that caused trouble....................... I'm sure there are others of course but I would say the majority end much better than that.

 

Only the other week I was speaking to an old friend that farms sheep who had to shoot one of his tups after a mauling, he wanted to know if I knew any lads running dogs around his place. Anyway his concern was that it was the local pikeys and would cause hell if he shot a dog. But what's the alternative? Just sit by idley while someone kils your bussiness? No f**k that, you use what tools you have and deal with it. Possibly damned if you do, certainly damned if you don't!

Nope id say most cases end like that. Ive been there enough times and seen the aftermath. If my dogs were shot i would be pissed off even if i totally understood. Let alone your average idiot who has no knowledge of the impact him and his dogs are making to someones livelihood. You can quote the law all you like but generally people who have just had there dog shot arnt too worried about it.

I see what your saying, most farmers have alot to loose. The way i see it and always have is if i was to shoot someones dog for killing sheep or in my case in a pen of birds killing birds i would not like it one bit. But id be angry and probably not thinking straight. Now if the dog owner found out and wanted to come to my door and kick my c**t then thats up to them, they could have a go and see what happens.......i might loose or i might win. Facts are there dog was in the wrong and they should be blaming themselves.

On the other hand if they thought they were going to come back in the middle of the night and burn down sheds or ruin my business, hurt my( under control) dogs they would have opened up a world of shit for themselves.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Fitchet, Just had their dog shot yeah of course they're going to be irrate! But I don't consider that agro really, you just deal with it and get on with your life. The example you gave was very different though, having sheep shot with crossbows............. ongoing damage and revenge like that will be a rarity.

 

Malt, you're right, the farmer broke the law because the dogs were not at the time of shooting at least a threat to his stock.

Edited March 15, 2013 by Born Hunter

[Malt 379]

 

The dogs were handed to him on leads, ie: Under control.. Sure the law states a dog can only be shot in the act of worrying sheep and out of control, don't it? Even if the dogs had been worrying sheep at an earlier time, he ain't allowed to destroy them once they're under control as a punishment..

I agree its not on to shoot them under these conditions, but he could of had dealings with them before, is all i was getting at. she obviously has her horse nearby, maybe these 2 dogs have been an on going problem for him, and he took his chance when he could. One is a husky cross, and they can be proper c**ts around stock.

if that was the case I'd maybe sympathise with him, but he still ain't allowed to do what he did..

[Paid 935]

I dont believe anything i ever read in the daily mail, its all about blame and finger pointing.

[fitchet 788]

Fitchet, Just had their dog shot yeah of course they're going to be irrate! But I don't consider that agro really, you just deal with it and get on with your life. The example you gave was very different though, having sheep shot with crossbows............. ongoing damage and revenge like that will be a rarity.

 

Malt, you're right, the farmer broke the law because the dogs were not at the time of shooting at least a threat to his stock.

No shooting sheep and having EVERY f****r on the land if its a running dog thats been shot is very common.same with a pet dog. Like i said ive been in the situation a few times and sometimes its better just to say if your dog isnt under control in here i will be in my rights to shoot it.how much does your avarage sheep cost ?? A couple of hundred ??? Is it really worth having all your equipment nicked your car f****d ect.

 

Im not against shooting dogs ive done it before and under the right circumstance i would do it again. BUT its all too easy for gamekeepers and landowners to say they will "do this" and "do that" and quote this law but when i was keepering we tried to do everything we could to keep everyone happy.

[Paid 935]

So fitchet your saying people can just f**k up some ones livelihood and they should do nothing about it but talk ?

[fitchet 788]

So fitchet your saying people can just f**k up some ones livelihood and they should do nothing about it but talk ?

No not at all. Under the right circumstance blast away. But too many farmers and gamekeepers regard shooting a dog as a badge of honour and then cry when pens equipment snd family members are getting grief.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

Fitchet, Just had their dog shot yeah of course they're going to be irrate! But I don't consider that agro really, you just deal with it and get on with your life. The example you gave was very different though, having sheep shot with crossbows............. ongoing damage and revenge like that will be a rarity.

 

Malt, you're right, the farmer broke the law because the dogs were not at the time of shooting at least a threat to his stock.

No shooting sheep and having EVERY f****r on the land if its a running dog thats been shot is very common.same with a pet dog. Like i said ive been in the situation a few times and sometimes its better just to say if your dog isnt under control in here i will be in my rights to shoot it.how much does your avarage sheep cost ?? A couple of hundred ??? Is it really worth having all your equipment nicked your car f****d ect.

 

Im not against shooting dogs ive done it before and under the right circumstance i would do it again. BUT its all too easy for gamekeepers and landowners to say they will "do this" and "do that" and quote this law but when i was keepering we tried to do everything we could to keep everyone happy.

 

You're changing the situation now fitch................... of course you should try and be diplomatic and sort things without shooting. But shooting should be the last resort as I believe stated in law. So, if theres time to be diplomatic about it but you shoot anyway then you have broken the law.

 

I don't get your thinking. Are you really saying that if a farmer sees all hell breaking out in his pens or field with a large dog killing his sheep he should just stand by and watch and then have a quiet word with the owner (if he can find them) about keeping their dogs under control? The sort of twats that would take revenge after a situation like that are certainly the sort of twats that would carry on doing it.

[danw 1,748]

Make I laugh all this I'll burn ya barn down or kill you stock that to me is the sign of a true coward snivelling around in the dark exacting some childish revenge as my granda always said either front up or f**k off

[fitchet 788]

 

 

 

Fitchet, Just had their dog shot yeah of course they're going to be irrate! But I don't consider that agro really, you just deal with it and get on with your life. The example you gave was very different though, having sheep shot with crossbows............. ongoing damage and revenge like that will be a rarity.

 

Malt, you're right, the farmer broke the law because the dogs were not at the time of shooting at least a threat to his stock.

No shooting sheep and having EVERY f****r on the land if its a running dog thats been shot is very common.same with a pet dog. Like i said ive been in the situation a few times and sometimes its better just to say if your dog isnt under control in here i will be in my rights to shoot it.how much does your avarage sheep cost ?? A couple of hundred ??? Is it really worth having all your equipment nicked your car f****d ect.

 

Im not against shooting dogs ive done it before and under the right circumstance i would do it again. BUT its all too easy for gamekeepers and landowners to say they will "do this" and "do that" and quote this law but when i was keepering we tried to do everything we could to keep everyone happy.

You're changing the situation now fitch................... of course you should try and be diplomatic and sort things without shooting. But shooting should be the last resort as I believe stated in law. So, if theres time to be diplomatic about it but you shoot anyway then you have broken the law.

 

I don't get your thinking. Are you really saying that if a farmer sees all hell breaking out in his pens or field with a large dog killing his sheep he should just stand by and watch and then have a quiet word with the owner (if he can find them) about keeping their dogs under control? The sort of twats that would take revenge after a situation like that are certainly the sort of twats that would carry on doing it.

Read me other post mate. In the right situation blast away. Just be mindfull of the hassle its likely to cause. Atb

[Tallyho 181]

What a wanker , i could understand if they had killed or worried his live stock , but to take them in just to shot them is is twisted . let hope he gets a prison sentence.

[bird 9,861]

 

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So if it comes out these dogs have killed a sheep would that change your mind mate or is it different when its a few lambs? Is there a acceptable limit dogs are allowed to kill before action is taken? Just trying to see the other side of the story hear......facts are if someone handed the dogs in and they had done nothing wrong and he has decided to kill them then good luck too him, he'd need it if it was my dogs and they had done nothing.

 

when you take (emotions) out of it, when a farmer shoots for a dog or dogs for killing sheep, it comes down (£ money) nout else, that all they are (sheep) to a farmer feck me the things end up on your dinner plate, they aint pets like a dog , most get get a bond with working dog. when ever these post come on our (emotions) hit the roof, they got to if you dog owner .I train my dogs with sheep every day, my pup sees them every day, but any dog can kill sheep ,even farm collies have killed sheep there( just dogs). Most probs come when its more than 1 dog, the pack kicks in and thats when natural instinct comes in to kill. I hope to god it dont happen to me with my dogs ,Bryn 100% safe, Buck good for a pup, but you just never know .but if it did happen,( it wouldnt come on here) ,and the poor old farmer would (loose) hell of alot of money (every year) fact.!!