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I can still remember reading a book called Death in the Locker room :icon_eek: and decided there and then I would never take them....ATB Dave

I seem to remember that book though i might be getting it confused with another one......it was a complete pile of sensationalist nonsense if its the one im thinking.................A good read of more recent years is Mick Harts " Tears on a Keyboard "........its worth a read even just for the interest value......and a lot more realistic.

Think I was about eighteen when I read it....frightened the life out of me... :icon_redface:

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I thought you were gonna threaten to beat me up mate. I am unfit, overweight, wear glasses, suffer from bouts of cowardice & I'm a bleeder.....it would be pretty pointless & you could take no

Its always amused me when folk who know nothing about bodybuilding just presume that anyone who takes it seriously must be " vain " !!............Baw you say " its got to be solely vanity "...........

funny how people slag steroids off yet think its ok to act/fight like a dick on a weekend and and also think that drinking 10 pints on a friday is ok and dosent damage your health.   infact bet half

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Fair play gnash ,good honests posts .i lift myself ,not to look big but because i enjoy lifting weights .At least it stop me drinking and eating shit all week.We all have our reasons for hitting the gym and so what if we feel better for it

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When I'm in the gym steroids is mostly all the young lads chat about, yet when I hear em talking about test this and dianabol that I ask em what pct they're gonna take after their course and not one has even known what it was so far out of about 10 lads. Its scary to think how much they're going to f**k themselves up....they all look horrified when I tell em what can happen if they don't do pct so I hope what Iv said has sunk into a few of them.

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afTer The half life,, The TessTosTerone Turns in To easTrogen ,,,nolvedex reuces The risk, of This easTrogen building up behind he nipple,,,gnocamaia ;)

and it aint very nice when it happens ,sore nipples followed by lumps ,having a hard on morning noon and night and the poor wife is fed up of you trying to mount her lol .That test has a lot to be answered to lol
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After a course of test how long after your last jab would you start pct ?

Depends what test it is but for sustanon which is the most commonly used 3weeks.Was talking to a mate of mine the other week whos a big name in the strongman scene and he was telling me that a lot of the lads take very small doses of HCG all the way through their course now rather than wait till the end of their course.
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That would eliminate ball shrinkage I'd guess wouldn't it ?

Thats what he was saying instead of using it in 3 bigger doses once the test had left your system to kickstart your bo**ocks back to life. Edited by downsouth
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After a course of test how long after your last jab would you start pct ?

My advice would be.......go to a gym and speak to strong healthy people who know what they are talking about instead of asking strangers on a hunting site ;)

I made the mistake of giving a lad off here advice a few years ago who i knew nothing about and it came back to bite me on the arse when i found out he had only been lifting 6 weeks !!!......I,ll never do that again and would rather give no advice than give bad advice and giving any advice on health related matters to a stranger can be dangerous.

If you want advice on your car you go to a garage.....you want advice on plants you go to a garden centre...........you want advice on bodybuilding go to a gym :thumbs:

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I wasn't asking for advice really Gnash just curious as so many people seem to have differing views on when to start their pct mate.

Yep :thumbs: I wasnt being a dick mate......some folk dont even regard nolv as a pct....some will see toremiphene as a rouded compound of nolv/clomid..........timings will all be dependant on your cycle.......my point is im a believer in that you have to put the ground work in yourself....when your messing with stuff you dont understand you cant rely on somebody holding your hand and walking you through it....by all means ask advice but take responsibility for yourself you cant just go willy nilly asking anyone who cares to give you an answer in your local boozer and put faith in the answer you get...................and no im not just after gym membership :laugh: ....its common sense and responsible living.

Hope that doesnt sound like im a miserable ol c**t just ive seen so many people give and take bad advice over the years. :thumbs:

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