German Sheperd X

[woz 260]

  On 16/03/2013 at 00:43, blackgreyhound said:

bird/ i have had lots of gsdxg over the years and they do have minds of thier own they have the unusaul ability to think for themselves .one day i was up in bluebell woods and a muntjack was running thru very thick bramble i orderd him into the cover he looked at me as if to say get stuffed he then went into the field and run up the side of the wood .after i had climbed up to the top of the hill i was not in the best of moods.i thought little b.but there he was holding the dead muntjack he had thought to himself i will go up the side of the wood and catch him when he breaks cover .in the lamp with other dogs he would allways let the other dog run the rabitts and catch them on the way in.out courseing with gypsies he often let there dog do most of the work then would turn on the power to catch the hare .in the lamp on his own he would catch rabitts on the squat but if they ran most times he would not waste his energy on them .if he coursed a hare in daylight after a couple of turns he would stop if he thought he could not catch it.gsd x g are very annoying at times .but on deer it was a different matter he would never ever give up the chase.my friend has a malumutexgreyhound he was saying he was out in the lamp the other night rabitts well out in the field and he is shouting at the dog for fecks sake go on the dog just looks at him as if to say i am not chaseing that.but big stuff or long ears there is no stopping him .some but not all gsdxg are very willfull and have a mind of thier own if they dont want to do something they wont no matter how much training you give them .sometimes i have been driven to despair but other times i have been amazed at thier abilities

That ain't the shepherd coming out....every working shepherd iv owned or trained and thats a lot has been bidable a will give it 100% when asked.....the only other option is that you've used pet/show gsd blood and its just shite anyway.....

[Stabs 3]

Some gypsy lads i used to knock about with used to keep alsatian crosses for the foxes round our way. big dogs they were and they struggled in the orchards to be honest. There were munties and roe in the woods but they were that thick (chestnut coppicing) that the smaller dogs tended to do better on them. Nice natured beasts mind.

[countrycommando89 7]

_{give them away as pets mate. them pups shouldnt me killed because of human error. someone will have them.}

[Chunky11 150]

We have a gsdxcollie bitch that was accidentally covered by my bed/grey x grew/wpt. She had 8 pups, 7 I gave to mates & have one here. It was a variable litter ranging from almost pure looking gsd to a 27inch bitch that looks suluki x. They are all working, are good family dogs, good guard dogs & the owners are all pleased with them.

 

I used to have a gsd/grey x dh & she was the best fox dog I have ever had.

 

Good luck with the pups, I hope they go to genuine working homes with people who know how to work there dogs.

[weasle 1,119]

  On 16/03/2013 at 02:02, woz said:

 

  On 16/03/2013 at 00:43, blackgreyhound said:

bird/ i have had lots of gsdxg over the years and they do have minds of thier own they have the unusaul ability to think for themselves .one day i was up in bluebell woods and a muntjack was running thru very thick bramble i orderd him into the cover he looked at me as if to say get stuffed he then went into the field and run up the side of the wood .after i had climbed up to the top of the hill i was not in the best of moods.i thought little b.but there he was holding the dead muntjack he had thought to himself i will go up the side of the wood and catch him when he breaks cover .in the lamp with other dogs he would allways let the other dog run the rabitts and catch them on the way in.out courseing with gypsies he often let there dog do most of the work then would turn on the power to catch the hare .in the lamp on his own he would catch rabitts on the squat but if they ran most times he would not waste his energy on them .if he coursed a hare in daylight after a couple of turns he would stop if he thought he could not catch it.gsd x g are very annoying at times .but on deer it was a different matter he would never ever give up the chase.my friend has a malumutexgreyhound he was saying he was out in the lamp the other night rabitts well out in the field and he is shouting at the dog for fecks sake go on the dog just looks at him as if to say i am not chaseing that.but big stuff or long ears there is no stopping him .some but not all gsdxg are very willfull and have a mind of thier own if they dont want to do something they wont no matter how much training you give them .sometimes i have been driven to despair but other times i have been amazed at thier abilities

That ain't the shepherd coming out....every working shepherd iv owned or trained and thats a lot has been bidable a will give it 100% when asked.....the only other option is that you've used pet/show gsd blood and its just shite anyway.....

No wonder he left a dog with keepers rather than give them a hare

[fitchet 788]

  On 16/03/2013 at 10:00, weasle said:

 

  On 16/03/2013 at 02:02, woz said:

 

  On 16/03/2013 at 00:43, blackgreyhound said:

 

bird/ i have had lots of gsdxg over the years and they do have minds of thier own they have the unusaul ability to think for themselves .one day i was up in bluebell woods and a muntjack was running thru very thick bramble i orderd him into the cover he looked at me as if to say get stuffed he then went into the field and run up the side of the wood .after i had climbed up to the top of the hill i was not in the best of moods.i thought little b.but there he was holding the dead muntjack he had thought to himself i will go up the side of the wood and catch him when he breaks cover .in the lamp with other dogs he would allways let the other dog run the rabitts and catch them on the way in.out courseing with gypsies he often let there dog do most of the work then would turn on the power to catch the hare .in the lamp on his own he would catch rabitts on the squat but if they ran most times he would not waste his energy on them .if he coursed a hare in daylight after a couple of turns he would stop if he thought he could not catch it.gsd x g are very annoying at times .but on deer it was a different matter he would never ever give up the chase.my friend has a malumutexgreyhound he was saying he was out in the lamp the other night rabitts well out in the field and he is shouting at the dog for fecks sake go on the dog just looks at him as if to say i am not chaseing that.but big stuff or long ears there is no stopping him .some but not all gsdxg are very willfull and have a mind of thier own if they dont want to do something they wont no matter how much training you give them .sometimes i have been driven to despair but other times i have been amazed at thier abilities

That ain't the shepherd coming out....every working shepherd iv owned or trained and thats a lot has been bidable a will give it 100% when asked.....the only other option is that you've used pet/show gsd blood and its just shite anyway.....

No wonder he left a dog with keepers rather than give them a hare

Weasle is this all you do now just have digs at people ?? I seem to remember you had some good stuff to say but now all you seem to do is annoy ??

[weasle 1,119]

I smell bull shiters from a mile,I aint going to pretend otherwise....

Good or bad i say it and normally without being rude.Dont let it ruin your day

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Obviously all these years they've been adding bull to lurcher lines for tenacity and drive and collie for brains/coat/feet and biddability all you had to do was add GSD and you've got the ultimate dog.........FFS why didn't we have THL all those years ago.

[weasle 1,119]

Just to clarify i would say a good racy type maybe a 1/4 cross could be a handy dog.BUT throwing any old gsd over a running dog is going to produce what you would expect.

You could cross a pappion with a greyhound, and they would work,But your trying to improve the grey, not let the grey cover the fact that the other half of the cross is a duffer?

[bunnys 1,228]

i would say the average sheperd as all tha collie brings ta the table , this country went through the faze where show blood started to take ova the seen in all breeds , most alsations were naffed come 7yrs old , but the same could be said of the collie major eye defects prominent in alll the types . i would say gifting those out as seen to the type that will appreciate them for what they are unplanned litter , no big deal . SHOUTING FROM THE ROOF TOPS at times of ones achievements with the run of the milll muts is not for all place them right fella those ya cana do the right thing . atb bunnys.

[blackgreyhound 206]

weasel.years ago preban when some dogs were used on mostly deer some but not all would not chase rabitts or hares .i have seen a dxg plodding behind a hare when a cwd has got up and it was like watching a different dog he was so fast the deer looked like he was thumbing a lift .if he wanted to he could have coursed hares ragged .dogs enterd on big prey animals can and will refuse to chase rabitts or hares no matter what blood is within them .chaseing a turning twisting hare uses far more energy and takes a greater effort to kill than a bigger animal .it is only natural for a lurcher to be selective.i can assure any one on this forum that if a dog is used on the big stuff a certain amount of those dogs no matter whaht their bloodlines .will refuse to chase rabitts and hares.it has nothing at all to do with useing bad bloodlines it has all to do with the dogs preferences .how often does a lion chase a small animal ?.if a dog with hare blindness as i call it was very hungry and it realised that it was rabitt or hare or starvation .it would naturally chase smaller objects becuse its exstreme hunger would force it to.but if big game is plentiful it will not.if you have a pup and you enter it onto big prey do not be surprised if after a while it develops rabit and hare blindness .if my dog was badly bred and was lacking keeness he would not have caught preban 9 cwd in one night and would not have pu;lled down fallow stags single handed

[bunnys 1,228]

  On 16/03/2013 at 10:54, weasle said:

Just to clarify i would say a good racy type maybe a 1/4 cross could be a handy dog.BUT throwing any old gsd over a running dog is going to produce what you would expect.

You could cross a pappion with a greyhound, and they would work,But your trying to improve the grey, not let the grey cover the fact that the other half of the cross is a duffer?

it would be great to think that genes work like that but as we know they dont , had athree quarter slower than my half xs slower than my half back to five eights three eights , such is nature the three quartes i seen tha twere fast didnsa have the wind to blow a candle out .atb bunnys.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Deer seem to have that effect on many lurchers, derived from Pastoral/Herding types....

 

I've owned one or two lurchers, that after a few seasons on the rabbits, began to get a wee bit bored with the game.

 

Yet, when a Roe jumped,..it was lights on again,..and they turned into killing machines,...

[bunnys 1,228]

black greyhound youre right in what youn say my old dog would run through a field full of conies to his target at the end ta beam would not bat an eye lid . is liking for what we were on was is chosen game . there will be those that know anfd obviously those not ., we have lightened ours up now in the hope they willl take a slight interest in the conies ha ha ha . atb bunnys.

[fieldsportsman 107]

  On 14/03/2013 at 19:42, Gaz_1989 said:

Q) Will he b able to find good working homes for them?

 

A) Highly unlikely. Who would take the chance when they could have something purpose bred?

 

Q) Anyone ever came across this mix?

 

A) I very much doubt it. Except in a dogs home maybe.

 

Q) What game will they b usefull for?

 

A) Flyball maybe. Or fetching a stick.

 

That's all your questions answered

true, they wont be out and out workers, but they may do someone for a bit of ferreting/mooching